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Dead as,

Do you have a proposal as to what needs to be done?

Blackbogger (Carlow) - Posts: 162 - 21/07/2017 22:44:04    2020739

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Interestingly. I've seen Sean murphy play at u21 county level and club level where he hasn't been overly influential. 100% when he is in a system when it's set up the give him spaces to run onto and coached in a certain way he is outragoues. And that goes down to poacher again. I just wonder if rainbow or whoever else had him would he be as effective. Definitely not. Same goes for Broderick etc. Sum of its parts and all that. Management not without fault granted but that's always going to be the case unfortunately

Hometown45 (Carlow) - Posts: 199 - 21/07/2017 23:44:40    2020751

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We need to develop a strong panel where we can bring in 4 or 5 subs who can improve things in the last 20 mins.

Monaghans subs turned the game round for them while our lads were tiring in the last 15 mins.

We rely on Broderick and Brendan Murphy so much for scores that it would be great to have a sub who could come on and ease the scoring burden or a big midfielder who could win a few kickouts at the end.

We also were relatively injury free this year but need a stronger squad to cope if there was a few injuries.

There should now be a push from other players to make the panel and get up to the necessary fitness levels.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1187 - 22/07/2017 08:59:49    2020780

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It is clear that we cannot continue to rely on Paul Broderick indefinitely for scores. Dead as is dead right... we need a stronger panel where we can bring on subs that will make a more significant impact particularly in the scoring stakes. How do we get these guys to buy in? I think the season we have had will get more lads to commit as they saw the progress and more lads will want to be part of that. Younger players also saw what can be achieved and they will be motivated to stick at it.
I think however it is also incumbent on individuals interested in GAA to encourage all age brackets to be more involved from under 8 up! Playing for the 'county' needs to be encouraged a lot more by clubs. Young kids need to see that as a real goal and honour. Too many clubs have not looked at the benefits for us all of having players 'in' with the county. Too may clubs see their own results and do not look at the bigger picture. These clubs need to be 'outed' and those who do encourage their players need to be given more 'kudos'.
Development squads should not be working on their own. Yes they are getting more support through fixtures etc but their good work needs more clubs to work harder to encourage more to be there. A lot of good work has been done this year but it needs to be built on. All have a part to play. That goes for hurling - Christy Ring winners as well as the footballers.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1521 - 23/07/2017 12:48:35    2021645

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Replying To Blackbogger:  "Dead as,

Do you have a proposal as to what needs to be done?"
No more than yourself I don't have the solution but we can't be carrying on as if we had won AI or Leinster or even god knows Promotion. Management treating players on their merits is a fundamental starting point and IMO this hasn't been the case this year in one glaring instance. We are in a better position than we hve been for years but that can evaporate overnight .

dead_as_dodos (Carlow) - Posts: 459 - 24/07/2017 11:18:56    2022388

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Big congrats to Paul Broderick on winning the gpa player of the year for may.

Has to be a first for Carlow and great to see our players recognised on the national stage.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1187 - 26/07/2017 12:54:14    2023816

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Replying To carlovia:  "Big congrats to Paul Broderick on winning the gpa player of the year for may.

Has to be a first for Carlow and great to see our players recognised on the national stage."
First in summer. Bryan carbery won footballer of month in January 2002 when we won the o byrne cup

Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 434 - 26/07/2017 14:05:55    2023876

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Well done to Broderick, well deserved. Put up huge totals, and is actually 2nd highest scorer in the championship at the moment.

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 26/07/2017 17:21:03    2024039

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Replying To dead_as_dodos:  "No more than yourself I don't have the solution but we can't be carrying on as if we had won AI or Leinster or even god knows Promotion. Management treating players on their merits is a fundamental starting point and IMO this hasn't been the case this year in one glaring instance. We are in a better position than we hve been for years but that can evaporate overnight ."
You are cheerful as always!

moll (Carlow) - Posts: 153 - 26/07/2017 21:52:37    2024181

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Replying To moll:  "You are cheerful as always!"
Thank you caller. Another excellent contribution...............not!

dead_as_dodos (Carlow) - Posts: 459 - 27/07/2017 11:21:51    2024357

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Replying To dead_as_dodos:  "Thank you caller. Another excellent contribution...............not!"
With Dublins win today over Tyrone . We can put more perspective on Carlows best championship in my life time and I am pushing on.
Dubs beat us by 12
West Meath by 31
Kildare by 9
Monaghan by 10
Tyrone by 12

Average win 15 points

So I think we deserve the ranking of 18th and roll on 2018

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 27/08/2017 21:18:44    2038915

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Replying To Blackbog:  "With Dublins win today over Tyrone . We can put more perspective on Carlows best championship in my life time and I am pushing on.
Dubs beat us by 12
West Meath by 31
Kildare by 9
Monaghan by 10
Tyrone by 12

Average win 15 points

So I think we deserve the ranking of 18th and roll on 2018"
What age are you?15! Tell you what , let's get out of Div.4 next season then you can talk.

dead_as_dodos (Carlow) - Posts: 459 - 28/08/2017 18:37:06    2039531

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Replying To dead_as_dodos:  "What age are you?15! Tell you what , let's get out of Div.4 next season then you can talk."
I am 60.and you are Mr negative
just accept improvement and relish those days out as I did
i saw my first Carlow game so I think I am qualified to an opinion

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 28/08/2017 19:54:59    2039575

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Replying To dead_as_dodos:  "What age are you?15! Tell you what , let's get out of Div.4 next season then you can talk."
I really think negative comments with no substance should not be posted
My some of these people call themselves Carlow I will never no.
I am not unrealistic, but will celebrate the efforts of my county , cherish the good days and look to the future. Other wise what is the point

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 28/08/2017 19:58:21    2039578

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Has Steven Poacher severed his connection with Carlow senior football management. ???

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2161 - 11/09/2017 12:42:41    2044900

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Replying To supersub15:  "Has Steven Poacher severed his connection with Carlow senior football management. ???"
Yes.

arsebiscuits (Carlow) - Posts: 56 - 11/09/2017 14:16:56    2044935

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Replying To supersub15:  "Has Steven Poacher severed his connection with Carlow senior football management. ???"
No

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1187 - 11/09/2017 14:48:15    2044945

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Replying To carlovia:  "No"
There are rumours that he is being considered for the management job over Louth senior footballers.

Blackbogger (Carlow) - Posts: 162 - 11/09/2017 17:30:21    2045008

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Replying To Blackbogger:  "There are rumours that he is being considered for the management job over Louth senior footballers."
Does not look like Poacher is in running for louth job
fingers crossed. We nee him next year to continue transformation of Carliw football

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 13/09/2017 08:45:43    2045511

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Lots of rumours, speculation etc swirling around. Lads would be better dealing in facts remember... believe only half what you see and none of what you hear ...

Bainisteoir (National) - Posts: 480 - 13/09/2017 13:03:13    2045614

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