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Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "But why would you even bother to setup this account if not to go causing mischief and with over 450 posts I'd say you did the devil, how do you even remember the password? I'm logged in as Kingdomboy1 and I don't ever logout."
Heheheee ! Of course you don't , sure you didn't even set up your account. Your childlike and lovely and such a decent old sod.

catch22 (National) - 30/11/2020 14:37:29

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To jimbodub:  "You don't think saying Hun in Scotland will not get you in trouble? All depends on your definition of trouble chief.. I'd consider it a very provocative term to use in the wrong company"
Might be worth reading up a bit about the term and the history of it and its use before making statements like "a term, with all its sectarian and historical associations" Tonto.

Offside_Rule (National) - 30/11/2020 09:47:58

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 5 Like(s)

Replying To Offside_Rule:  "Might be worth reading up a bit about the term and the history of it and its use before making statements like "a term, with all its sectarian and historical associations" Tonto."
This is taken from the Independent. Now you may not considered the word offensive but others do: "Campaigners argue that the word, which is more commonly used in an endearing manner short for 'honey', is one of "religious hatred" and should be considered just as offensive as the word 'fenian', which is used as a derogatory term towards Catholics. Plans are already in place to lobby Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to make the word illegal, with the campaign coming after singer Amy Macdonald was abused on Twitter, according to Herald Scotland. An online petition claims that the word is of "religious hatred, a derogatory and sectarian term for a Protestant". By the way it wasn't the Scottish courts who made a ruling, it was Ofcom, the UK communications regulator. Maybe you ought to read up a bit more yourself, Geronimo.

avonali (National) - 30/11/2020 10:32:24

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 4 Like(s)

Replying To Offside_Rule:  "Might be worth reading up a bit about the term and the history of it and its use before making statements like "a term, with all its sectarian and historical associations" Tonto."
Best to not down play the use of the term by quoting from a Scottish legal finding It's a very abbresive term as you well know of course. That despite what you suggest, it would indeed get you in plenty of trouble in Scotland if you weren't very careful in its use. IMO I think that's more in keeping with what the OP was referring to. If you want to be pedantic about it fair enough. Would you be comfortable using that term aloud in certain parts of Belfast?

jimbodub (National) - 30/11/2020 10:26:35

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 3 Like(s)
Using the term Fenian or Hun in a negative context is really just two sides of the same coin. You of course can use them in a historical reference but that's not what's being applied here at all.. But in the wrong context Both will land you in plenty of trouble if you use them recklessly

jimbodub (National) - 30/11/2020 10:57:07

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 3 Like(s)
What I find funny is that you are all holding up Scotland as an example when it's long history of Anti-Irish feeling is well known and still exists to this very day. But carry on with your outrage at the word Hun and keep on equating it to actual sectarian terms that are in use week in week (the use of which funny has never prompted anyone to go on a crusade on here about). Gotta love modern society with all it's faux outrage.

Offside_Rule (National) - 30/11/2020 11:09:15

RTE. - 3 Like(s)
Rte six1 news this evening, 4 mins on a delted tweet by Brian Stanley, and the dup's writing to the Ceann Comhairle, later 90 secs on the british govs refusal to hold a public inquiry into the murder of Pat Finucane, that tells you all you need to know about Rte and the 'southern' media. I suppose they'll have the leader of the opposition Alan Kelly on later.

Tirchonaill1 (National) - 30/11/2020 18:32:38

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To yew_tree:  "People are easily offended these days. Of course there are words and Phrases that can't be said but only in recent days a BBC presenter was suspended for using the term "handbags" ffs. Sure the word Culchie that many dubs use has its roots in a derogatory and condescending term towards country people. I think we should demand an apology from Dublin posters who have used this horrible word here towards us poor uneducated peasants...my feelings are hurt :("
Well this is it yew_tree, I think we're living in a time that rewards outrage and punishes any opinion that strays from the mainstream. 'Tolerance' is undoubtedly the latest form of intolerance. Anyway I think the bar on 'offending' someone is very low these days, simply 'misgendering' someone is enough to get the job done. Also, there's a large cohort of people out there who have no problem dishing out the abuse but cry foul immediately when shots are fired back, it's gas stuff (ps, before I offend anybody, that's a general point, it's not aimed at any particular poster).

Htaem (National) - 30/11/2020 11:37:01

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 3 Like(s)

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "They all have multiple accounts and usernames don't take any notice of them offside rule, you'll get used to it."
Speak for yourself. I haven't but you do.

avonali (National) - 30/11/2020 12:16:29

RTE. - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Saynothing:  "What's the story with RTÉ, every time you tune in for match, it's women giving their opinion. Mute button on standby."
its sill 1920 up with u, its 2020 for the rest of us

Stmunnsriver (National) - 30/11/2020 12:31:25

Dublin V Cavan - 3 Like(s)
Good luck to Cavan on Saturday evening. Give it your all against this fabulous team they call Dublin. No shame in losing to this great team. Play like you played against us with Everyman fighting for his life and I've no doubt yous will put up a great performance. Good luck again.

rorysboys (National) - 30/11/2020 15:48:56

Dublin V Cavan - 3 Like(s)

Replying To rorysboys:  "Good luck to Cavan on Saturday evening. Give it your all against this fabulous team they call Dublin. No shame in losing to this great team. Play like you played against us with Everyman fighting for his life and I've no doubt yous will put up a great performance. Good luck again."
Pass the sick bucket there Rory.

Tirchonaill1 (National) - 30/11/2020 16:30:25

Limerick against Waterford. All Ireland Hurling Final 2020 - 2 Like(s)
Just hope the Waterford lads watch their "Backs" Only one winner here, Waterford all the way.

katser (National) - 30/11/2020 18:09:05

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Offside_Rule:  "What I find funny is that you are all holding up Scotland as an example when it's long history of Anti-Irish feeling is well known and still exists to this very day. But carry on with your outrage at the word Hun and keep on equating it to actual sectarian terms that are in use week in week (the use of which funny has never prompted anyone to go on a crusade on here about). Gotta love modern society with all it's faux outrage."
We are having a debate about a term....no outrage whatsoever, but I am sensing a fair bit of anger from yourself. It's wrong to use sectarian terms, nobody is denying that. But your contention that this word is not offensive to anybody is simply wrong. Surely somebody can argue the facts with you without you getting angry??

avonali (National) - 30/11/2020 11:17:21

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 2 Like(s)
lol - oh no, they're rounding up on me. Another problem with modern society - they have to pigeon hole every person. Even anonymous posters on an internet forum. Ye need to lighten up a bit lads!

Offside_Rule (National) - 30/11/2020 11:20:45

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 2 Like(s)

Replying To avonali:  "The chap humorously referred to me as Tonto....I was returning the favour. By the way..Howya. NIce try."
Unless you are also jimbodub then you would find that the Tonto was in response to his Chief. Do keep up!

Offside_Rule (National) - 30/11/2020 11:22:23

Galway V Limerick - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Ban:  "Sounds like the rulebook needs to start playing by the "rules""
it seems that RTE analysts and "hurling people" have a very interesting interpretation of the rulebook generally!! Sometimes you'd wonder why there's a rulebook at all...

football first (National) - 30/11/2020 11:28:09

Limerick against Waterford. All Ireland Hurling Final 2020 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To katser:  "Just hope the Waterford lads watch their "Backs" Only one winner here, Waterford all the way."
There there now. Maybe you should look forward in hope, not back in anger. If we cannot beat Waterford that is fine. We will take our beating with dignity and wish that fine Deise team well. It is great to see two Munster teams in the Final. If Waterford win, and good luck to them if they do, they will be the fifth county from this Province to win the All Ireland in sixteen years and the cup will repose in the Munster Plains - well it will anyway- for the 74th time. LET US MAKE MUNSTER GREAT AGAIN. But really what is the point- it has always been great.

Oldtourman (National) - 30/11/2020 18:46:05

Galway V Limerick - 2 Like(s)
Congrats to JP and the lads, the better team won. Its wonderful to see a team overcome a limited hurling population and limited underage success in 5-10 years. Great to see the investment pay off. Looking forward to seeing them beat Waterford now. Please God the travel restrictions will be over soon to allow JPs lads enjoy their holiday in his resort in Barbados. Its a pity the Galway county board couldn't come up with a few extra bob to keep Micheál Donoghue's preferred strength and conditioning coach last year and maybe C. Mannion wouldn't have had to limp off.

All_square (National) - 30/11/2020 18:51:03

Is It Time To Be More Careful Of The Language We Use? - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Htaem:  "Well this is it yew_tree, I think we're living in a time that rewards outrage and punishes any opinion that strays from the mainstream. 'Tolerance' is undoubtedly the latest form of intolerance. Anyway I think the bar on 'offending' someone is very low these days, simply 'misgendering' someone is enough to get the job done. Also, there's a large cohort of people out there who have no problem dishing out the abuse but cry foul immediately when shots are fired back, it's gas stuff (ps, before I offend anybody, that's a general point, it's not aimed at any particular poster)."
I would draw a distinction between somebody being actually outraged and somebody just asking questions. The funny thing is people are actually angry at the fact that somebody just asks a question and they start trotting out terms like "snowflake", "watchdog" and "quick to take offence" etc. Interesting.

avonali (National) - 30/11/2020 12:21:25