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John Costello Comments - 3 Like(s)

Replying To DUBJOHN:  "Or maybe you can take out your small violin and do some busking to raise a few euro to pay the light bill up there in Leitrim !"
Good man John smashing contribution... Sometimes I do wonder do we all belong to the same organisation at all... the forefathers of the GAA certainly wouldn't have wanted to see the organisation turn into "the haves and have nots". Lads like you wouldn't last a minute at a small rural club.... you'd be running out the door with your tail between your legs. The real backbone of the GAA is those clubs who literally raise funds to keep the lights on.

Square_B (National) - 08/12/2022 09:57:07

Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To seventyniner:  "From a Galway point of view I was slightly disappointed with Cookes display last Sunday. I thought that he played on the periphery of the action a lot without really getting involved. I know he kicked a few good points near the end but he never injected any urgency into his game. I know that Tourlestrane are hard to play against with the way they set up but at least it was a good dry run for Moycullen if Kilcoo are to be their next opponents as that is the way they set up also. On the other hand I thought Eoin Gallagher was very good last Sunday as he has been in every Moycullen game I saw this year, and they would never have got over Strokestown without him. I saw him for Galway in the league games and thought he was a very good player and I cant understand how he was'nt utilised far more often in the championship."
Agreed re Gallagher. Thought he was excellent again the last day.

galwayman2 (National) - 08/12/2022 10:04:28

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 2 Like(s)

Replying To patmouse:  "This is the biggest sport in the world played all over the world . There will be 95% of the TV's on that day with the world cup, 4 % watching something else and maybe .5% / 1% watching the hurling and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head buried. The WC has been brilliant, its been fun, exciting, everyone loves watching Brazil and the likes with there dancing, The Hurling match will be payed in almost empty stadium, in the mid of winter and the player and managers all on media bans, the whole fun has been removed."
Most of country is not even watching it! Check the viewing figures. "Everyone" loves soap operas and love islands too. Should GAA design its schedule around expulsions form reality TV shows? You prefer soccer to hurling. Knock yourself out as they say :-)

BarneyGrant (National) - 08/12/2022 10:11:35

Roscommon GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Letsgetgoing, you can leave out the Connacht Council helping out your superHyde vision. Their vision doesn't extend outside of Co. Mayo.

Seanfanbocht (National) - 08/12/2022 10:27:36

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Square_B:  "Good man John smashing contribution... Sometimes I do wonder do we all belong to the same organisation at all... the forefathers of the GAA certainly wouldn't have wanted to see the organisation turn into "the haves and have nots". Lads like you wouldn't last a minute at a small rural club.... you'd be running out the door with your tail between your legs. The real backbone of the GAA is those clubs who literally raise funds to keep the lights on."
I'm a member of one such club in Dublin.

DUBJOHN (National) - 08/12/2022 10:58:14

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 2 Like(s)

Replying To patmouse:  "This is the biggest sport in the world played all over the world . There will be 95% of the TV's on that day with the world cup, 4 % watching something else and maybe .5% / 1% watching the hurling and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head buried. The WC has been brilliant, its been fun, exciting, everyone loves watching Brazil and the likes with there dancing, The Hurling match will be payed in almost empty stadium, in the mid of winter and the player and managers all on media bans, the whole fun has been removed."
You mustn't have been great at maths, your percentages are a bit off the wall. - Not everyone likes watching Brazil's rain dance, etc. The hurling semis could and should have been rescheduled to keep everyone happy, unfortunately that didn't happen because of a little thing called stubbornness. Because soccer may be the biggest sport in the world does not mean it is the best or most enjoyable sport in the world, again it's all about opinion. Feel free to dance on Mo Cara.

supersub15 (National) - 08/12/2022 11:09:01

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Whammo86:  "Without wishing to sound glib, does anyone think that investing in coaching for any 30-something is the best way of spending finances? Will our GPOs be expected to arrange a Go Games programme for over-35s? Are we to develop Tag Camán and Tag Peil programmes? Do we really need to even include 23-year-olds when we are allocating scarce funding resources?" he asked. I agree with him on this. I've been someone that has defended the GAA over the funding to Dublin. It was a huge success and I was always worried about defunding something that was actually strongly achieving what it was intended for. That being said it's not so long ago that Dublin were enjoying an unprecedented period of success and whatever about a recent drop off the future is likely still very bright for them. The association does have to bear competitive balance, making sure that potential future contenders don't fall behind to such a critical extent. So all in all maybe now is the right time to tweak things. You would hope that not too many jobs are lost as they can plug some of the deficit."
Ive 0% concern for the Dublin Senior teams, they've washed their own faces and always have, this is the difficulty with this debate, games development funding isn't about funding your senior team - its about attracting younger players to the game and keeping them in the GAA. So the debate as far as im concerned isnt about the Senior game. Its about having a pathway for young players and young adults to part of the GAA and supporting that pathway There is almost a third of the population of the country in Dublin and 16% -20% of that are under 17% - incredible numbers that cant be matched in few places elsewhere and growing. Th model itself doesn't take account of growing or changeling demographics, its weighted heavily on those already playing - which is ridiculous variable to base funding on. What it means is populations that shifted drastically in the last ten years are going to be handicap. I dont even think its Dublin that will bear the brunt of this really. Ultimately our funding is cut in 450k, but if you looked at one county who could close that gap through commercial revenue or increased sponsorship given our market its Dublin, be a pain for a couple of years but grand. But i look at Kildare, Wicklow, Meath, even Weatmeath and Laois - counties that have seen huge population increases in the last decade and continue a pace, those youngsters as well as those in Dublin and their funding is going to be based on those playing now, not the potential huge demographic that could be in 15 - 20 years as people settle in these areas and raise families. Those counties wont have the funding to attract players to Gaelic games. The funding is going to change completely, the east Leinster project will end, while i see no clarification on the provincial funding model. As far a si can see all funding is going to come from central funds, so while the figures may look bigger for some in reality they may not be. Again for me this has nothing to do with senior football. The model will also change the dynamic in some counties, Monahan and Leitrim are likely to loose out, they were subsidised based on very low populations. Cork are going to receive twice the funding of Kerry, Galway will receive twice the funding of Mayo, there are many example of this i don think people have identified. It looks to me that no accounting for the split in demographic, in Northern counties culturally and the religious divide - should we not try and attract and those of a unionist background to Gaelic games... The model to my mind is just stupid, it makes 0 sense to base funding on registered players - its creates an obstacle to a pathway in changing dynamics in counties, changes the dynamic in many provinces, deceptively i think doesn't change funding one way or the other in the way it was meant. But most of all i think it fails to do what its supposed to do in the main which is attract youngsters and young adults to Gaelic games. I couldn't think of stupider way of doing this.

TheUsername (National) - 08/12/2022 11:17:04

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "How many, if any, neutrals were going to go to Croke Park for Club hurling in December but now won't because the Soccer Final is on TV?"
Few I would think. TV stations do not close down all their other channels when something more popular is on somewhere else! Hundreds of thousands of people are watching other things or doing better things like reading or playing music or walking their dogs or sleeping while the World Cup is on. As someone said above, a lot of the criticism of GAA for this is from people who hate GAA, let's be honest about it. I have minimal interest in catering any more to these people than we already have done.

BarneyGrant (National) - 08/12/2022 11:18:50

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To DUBJOHN:  "I'm a member of one such club in Dublin."
Oh I'd say you are ... conveniently. The GAA folk in Dublin would want to open their eyes to what actually goes on at club & county level outside the M50. John Costello banging on annually about the state of the GAA in the capital is certainly not aiding anyones cause. There's not too many counties who can afford a full time CEO and full time support staff. God knows maybe Dublin might have to raffle an auld house or something of the sort in the future... you never know.

Square_B (National) - 08/12/2022 11:44:08

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To TheUsername:  "Ive 0% concern for the Dublin Senior teams, they've washed their own faces and always have, this is the difficulty with this debate, games development funding isn't about funding your senior team - its about attracting younger players to the game and keeping them in the GAA. So the debate as far as im concerned isnt about the Senior game. Its about having a pathway for young players and young adults to part of the GAA and supporting that pathway There is almost a third of the population of the country in Dublin and 16% -20% of that are under 17% - incredible numbers that cant be matched in few places elsewhere and growing. Th model itself doesn't take account of growing or changeling demographics, its weighted heavily on those already playing - which is ridiculous variable to base funding on. What it means is populations that shifted drastically in the last ten years are going to be handicap. I dont even think its Dublin that will bear the brunt of this really. Ultimately our funding is cut in 450k, but if you looked at one county who could close that gap through commercial revenue or increased sponsorship given our market its Dublin, be a pain for a couple of years but grand. But i look at Kildare, Wicklow, Meath, even Weatmeath and Laois - counties that have seen huge population increases in the last decade and continue a pace, those youngsters as well as those in Dublin and their funding is going to be based on those playing now, not the potential huge demographic that could be in 15 - 20 years as people settle in these areas and raise families. Those counties wont have the funding to attract players to Gaelic games. The funding is going to change completely, the east Leinster project will end, while i see no clarification on the provincial funding model. As far a si can see all funding is going to come from central funds, so while the figures may look bigger for some in reality they may not be. Again for me this has nothing to do with senior football. The model will also change the dynamic in some counties, Monahan and Leitrim are likely to loose out, they were subsidised based on very low populations. Cork are going to receive twice the funding of Kerry, Galway will receive twice the funding of Mayo, there are many example of this i don think people have identified. It looks to me that no accounting for the split in demographic, in Northern counties culturally and the religious divide - should we not try and attract and those of a unionist background to Gaelic games... The model to my mind is just stupid, it makes 0 sense to base funding on registered players - its creates an obstacle to a pathway in changing dynamics in counties, changes the dynamic in many provinces, deceptively i think doesn't change funding one way or the other in the way it was meant. But most of all i think it fails to do what its supposed to do in the main which is attract youngsters and young adults to Gaelic games. I couldn't think of stupider way of doing this."
You are forgetting the social improvement element of the GAA especially in urban areas. It can provide a focus and hope for young people from areas in which both are in short supply.

Viking66 (National) - 08/12/2022 12:31:24

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 2 Like(s)

Replying To supersub15:  "A bit unfair to generalise about criticism of the gaa, I criticize them but I certainly do not hate them or anything near hate."
I'm talking about the media and social media drivers of this. Not you! It's nearly Christmas. Limited possibilities of rearranging anything. I can see the argument for the 1.30 start but maybe that doesn't suit travel or even the already agreed TV coverage? TG4 won't be showing the soccer regardless even if the games are called off. It would be deeply ironic too if after telescoping the inter county championships to leave more time for clubs if we were to postpone games to suit people watching soccer on other side of the world.

BarneyGrant (National) - 08/12/2022 12:35:14

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To TheUsername:  "Ive 0% concern for the Dublin Senior teams, they've washed their own faces and always have, this is the difficulty with this debate, games development funding isn't about funding your senior team - its about attracting younger players to the game and keeping them in the GAA. So the debate as far as im concerned isnt about the Senior game. Its about having a pathway for young players and young adults to part of the GAA and supporting that pathway There is almost a third of the population of the country in Dublin and 16% -20% of that are under 17% - incredible numbers that cant be matched in few places elsewhere and growing. Th model itself doesn't take account of growing or changeling demographics, its weighted heavily on those already playing - which is ridiculous variable to base funding on. What it means is populations that shifted drastically in the last ten years are going to be handicap. I dont even think its Dublin that will bear the brunt of this really. Ultimately our funding is cut in 450k, but if you looked at one county who could close that gap through commercial revenue or increased sponsorship given our market its Dublin, be a pain for a couple of years but grand. But i look at Kildare, Wicklow, Meath, even Weatmeath and Laois - counties that have seen huge population increases in the last decade and continue a pace, those youngsters as well as those in Dublin and their funding is going to be based on those playing now, not the potential huge demographic that could be in 15 - 20 years as people settle in these areas and raise families. Those counties wont have the funding to attract players to Gaelic games. The funding is going to change completely, the east Leinster project will end, while i see no clarification on the provincial funding model. As far a si can see all funding is going to come from central funds, so while the figures may look bigger for some in reality they may not be. Again for me this has nothing to do with senior football. The model will also change the dynamic in some counties, Monahan and Leitrim are likely to loose out, they were subsidised based on very low populations. Cork are going to receive twice the funding of Kerry, Galway will receive twice the funding of Mayo, there are many example of this i don think people have identified. It looks to me that no accounting for the split in demographic, in Northern counties culturally and the religious divide - should we not try and attract and those of a unionist background to Gaelic games... The model to my mind is just stupid, it makes 0 sense to base funding on registered players - its creates an obstacle to a pathway in changing dynamics in counties, changes the dynamic in many provinces, deceptively i think doesn't change funding one way or the other in the way it was meant. But most of all i think it fails to do what its supposed to do in the main which is attract youngsters and young adults to Gaelic games. I couldn't think of stupider way of doing this."
Fair play Username, most intelligent post on here in a long time.

DUBJOHN (National) - 08/12/2022 13:54:15

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "You are forgetting the social improvement element of the GAA especially in urban areas. It can provide a focus and hope for young people from areas in which both are in short supply."
Excellent point, you look at what has come out of Ballymun Kickhams, Philly McMahon, both Smalls, Dean Rock, Evan Comerford and James McCarthy in this generation.

TheUsername (National) - 08/12/2022 14:35:05

John Costello Comments - 2 Like(s)

Replying To DUBJOHN:  "You're so far away from knowing the plight of most clubs in Dublin that I'm not going to debate on this with you, most folk like you outside of the M50 need to open your eyes to what really goes on with most clubs in Dublin ! (P S. can I borrow your little violin ?)"
You wouldn't be able to debate what goes on outside the M50 because you don't have a clue. I know full well what goes on in GAA circles in Dublin, particularly in North Dublin and all I see is an abundance of wealth & resources that most clubs could only dream of.

Square_B (National) - 08/12/2022 15:58:25

Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To rorysboys:  "Stop making excuses all ready. We were held back according to most of yous last year… all I'm saying it's time to let off the handbrake and see what we're worth. Starting with staying in division 1. We done it this last few years so no reason why we won't this year.. Murphy was Not going to last forever plenty players there ?"
What excuses… so you're saying we should be able to accomplish more this year minus 4/5 key players and if we don't then it proves your love in with Bonner was justified? Come on now..

Donegal_abroad (National) - 08/12/2022 16:25:53

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 1 Like(s)
This is the biggest sport in the world played all over the world . There will be 95% of the TV's on that day with the world cup, 4 % watching something else and maybe .5% / 1% watching the hurling and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head buried. The WC has been brilliant, its been fun, exciting, everyone loves watching Brazil and the likes with there dancing, The Hurling match will be payed in almost empty stadium, in the mid of winter and the player and managers all on media bans, the whole fun has been removed.

patmouse (National) - 08/12/2022 08:33:02

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 1 Like(s)

Replying To patmouse:  "This is the biggest sport in the world played all over the world . There will be 95% of the TV's on that day with the world cup, 4 % watching something else and maybe .5% / 1% watching the hurling and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head buried. The WC has been brilliant, its been fun, exciting, everyone loves watching Brazil and the likes with there dancing, The Hurling match will be payed in almost empty stadium, in the mid of winter and the player and managers all on media bans, the whole fun has been removed."
I think i will still watch the hurling. And i am not near as fond of hurling as i am Gaelic football. Both codes are way superior to soccer, in my opinion

anotheralias (National) - 08/12/2022 10:04:27

Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To monaghanmad:  "Your team will flourish without Murphy, imo, he was holding yous back, time for young men to step up instead of looking at murphy to do it who really didnt have it in the legs or body anymore"
Many in the pub?

TheFlaker (National) - 08/12/2022 10:14:05

World Cup Final Clashes With Club Semi Finals - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Most of country is not even watching it! Check the viewing figures. "Everyone" loves soap operas and love islands too. Should GAA design its schedule around expulsions form reality TV shows? You prefer soccer to hurling. Knock yourself out as they say :-)"
How many, if any, neutrals were going to go to Croke Park for Club hurling in December but now won't because the Soccer Final is on TV?

Seanfanbocht (National) - 08/12/2022 10:30:12

Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To seventyniner:  "From a Galway point of view I was slightly disappointed with Cookes display last Sunday. I thought that he played on the periphery of the action a lot without really getting involved. I know he kicked a few good points near the end but he never injected any urgency into his game. I know that Tourlestrane are hard to play against with the way they set up but at least it was a good dry run for Moycullen if Kilcoo are to be their next opponents as that is the way they set up also. On the other hand I thought Eoin Gallagher was very good last Sunday as he has been in every Moycullen game I saw this year, and they would never have got over Strokestown without him. I saw him for Galway in the league games and thought he was a very good player and I cant understand how he was'nt utilised far more often in the championship."
Agree. He is a real battering ram and very good at carrying the ball through the lines and laying it off. Can kick a score too. Hope Moycullens extended run doesnt mean he doesnt see much league time. Would love to see him in maroon a bit more, doing the unseen donkey work for Comer, Shaney and Rob.

GalwaysFinest (National) - 08/12/2022 11:23:29