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Non-Gaa Forum - 4 Like(s)

Replying To zinny:  "However they were safe and this has been proven out through the subsequent years, Yet today there are people who still try to discredit the publics trust in the vaccinees, like they do others. Even within the FDA they are releasing information on Covid Vaccines and children with no factual basis. Is it just the covid one or you don't see why people need to take Vaccines?
Yes big Frarma made a lot of money out of covid but is that not the American way? I"
I'm not anti Vax at all. As people have said it wiped out a number of diseases, most notably polio. My kids got all their vaccines but neither myself nor my wife got the COVID jabs for a couple of reasons. 1. The testing was rushed and the standards were changed in order to get it released. 2. The restrictions imposed on people who made that choice is exceptionally authoritarian which I felt was outrageous. The whole approach made me very suspicious.

I also don't approve of the flu vaccine. The data suggests it isn't effective and it's not necessary for the majority of society. That I believe is a money spinner.

Doylerwex (National) - 16/12/2025 15:42:55

Patrick Mcbrearty - 3 Like(s)
I know his decision to retire will be discussed on the Donegal thread. But I thought this man deserved a thread to himself.
He has been an iconic footballer for Donegal and the GAA in general for the last 14 years. One of the rare players who made their senior debut the same day as they appeared for the minors.

He suffered two bad knee injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement. It's hard to believe he's still only 32.
But when he was in his prime, he was a hard man to pin down. Teams knew all about his left foot, but stopping it was another thing. One of the best examples I can think of is when we played Derry in one of the Covid championship games. The teams were level going into injury time, and Rory Gallagher's screams of "LEFT! LEFT! LEFT!" could be clearly heard. As good a marker as Chrissy McKaigue is/was, he was still powerless to prevent Paddy booming over a late winner.

It's a pity he couldn't have signed off with one more All Ireland win, and as captain. But it wasn't to be. He still leaves the stage as Donegal's most successful player. His influence and ability will be sorely missed.

Go raibh míle maith agat a Phádraig!

Lockjaw (National) - 16/12/2025 11:42:16

Monaghan GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Some serious revisionism going on on Kieran Hughes' career. An unbelievable footballer on his day. 'On his day' being the key phrase. How many big games did he have for Monaghan after that Ulster final 2013? I'd say you could count them on one hand, and you might not even need to use your thumb.
In disbelief that I've seen him mentioned in the same breath as McManus.

HB245 (National) - 16/12/2025 14:05:30

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To SouthGalway:  "Big Pharma agrees with you Comrade."
Vaccines account for (and prior to covid it was less) less than 10% of big Pharma sales, they are not the drugs that they are getting rich off. Vaccines by their very definition should save money for public health by preventing illness that would then have to be treated with further drugs. Trump deserves credit for bringing down the price of some drugs, although its ironic that the one touted the most is Ozempic, when the drug is against everything RFK would believe in. What is unusual and rarely mentioned is that the process of negotiation for the drugs under medicare was put in place by Biden and the first round he achieved a 22% reduction in price on the selected drugs where as Trump got double that. He deserves credit for that but he won't mention it in that way but rather he will say he got prices down by 1500%. The irony is that the BBB removed some medicines that would also be up for negotiation from the list for the next round - so I guess its a bit of you give me my day in the spotlight and I will then give it back to you under the table. Of course this is the way US politics operate under all the parties, pretending to do something for the people but making sure big corporations do not foot the bill. In the past year drug manufacturers in the US have risen about 25% in value whereas the S&P has only been up about 12%. If what Trump was doing was really going to hurt big Pharma then the market doesn't seem to think so.

zinny (National) - 16/12/2025 09:46:12

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To zinny:  "However they were safe and this has been proven out through the subsequent years, Yet today there are people who still try to discredit the publics trust in the vaccinees, like they do others. Even within the FDA they are releasing information on Covid Vaccines and children with no factual basis. Is it just the covid one or you don't see why people need to take Vaccines?
Yes big Frarma made a lot of money out of covid but is that not the American way? I"
I feel they were for the majority safe you will always get outliers like the poor man in Waterford who had J&J one.

I had that one too, purely for convenience it was one jab and had zero issues

I would have doubts it was necessary for everyone to take bar the vulnerable and feel it was wrong to mandate and exclude the unvaccinated.

I feel power was ceded a bit by government to TH and co who had a vested interest.

jm25 (National) - 16/12/2025 15:47:55

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To FullOfPorter:  "I find this new wave of anti vax and medicine-sceptic culture that has crept into society baffling. Talk about blinded by their own privilaged position to live in countries where life expectancy is 80+. Maybe they want to turn the clock back by 150 years where most of us will be dead soon after our 40th birthday. Very interesting to look back at the old death certs from the 1800s on the Irish genealogy site where stuff that we take for granted as being minor today was often fatal for people back then. Yet there is a movement out there now whether it be for pregnancy, cancer treatment or even MS, to abandon medical intervention in favour of eating watercress or going to some charlatan abroad to put their hands on your head for top dollar.
Vaccines have to be one of the most remarkable developments by humans. And as you say the benefit is two fold, directly for the person but also their preventative nature saving health services from being overwhelmed with TB, polio, measels etc etc cases."
I see a lot re carnivore diet eating like the cavemen used to back in day to stay healthy.

While I can see some benefit to the diet I do not see it mentioned life expectancy of the cavemen wasn't great

I don't mind a bit of focus on vaccines and skepticism but the crew who can't remember anyone been sick or dieing pre 2020 would sicken yeah

Everything in moderation I say

jm25 (National) - 16/12/2025 12:18:14

Monaghan GAA thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To monaghanmad:  "Yes, no debate he was a magnificent footballer, but cant look back on his career with couldves, shouldves and Ifs.

To put Kieran Hughes in the same bracket as 3 time and 2 time all stars is crazy.

Who is a better footballer in their pomp, Kieran Hughes or Conor Mc Carthy ? Surely Mc carthy."
Hard disagree ..

veterngaa (National) - 16/12/2025 12:18:17

Patrick Mcbrearty - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Lockjaw:  "I know his decision to retire will be discussed on the Donegal thread. But I thought this man deserved a thread to himself.
He has been an iconic footballer for Donegal and the GAA in general for the last 14 years. One of the rare players who made their senior debut the same day as they appeared for the minors.

He suffered two bad knee injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement. It's hard to believe he's still only 32.
But when he was in his prime, he was a hard man to pin down. Teams knew all about his left foot, but stopping it was another thing. One of the best examples I can think of is when we played Derry in one of the Covid championship games. The teams were level going into injury time, and Rory Gallagher's screams of "LEFT! LEFT! LEFT!" could be clearly heard. As good a marker as Chrissy McKaigue is/was, he was still powerless to prevent Paddy booming over a late winner.

It's a pity he couldn't have signed off with one more All Ireland win, and as captain. But it wasn't to be. He still leaves the stage as Donegal's most successful player. His influence and ability will be sorely missed.

Go raibh míle maith agat a Phádraig!"
Top player.

He will be missed by Donegal and neutral fans alike.

Fionn (National) - 16/12/2025 13:43:22

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Doylerwex:  "I'm not anti Vax at all. As people have said it wiped out a number of diseases, most notably polio. My kids got all their vaccines but neither myself nor my wife got the COVID jabs for a couple of reasons. 1. The testing was rushed and the standards were changed in order to get it released. 2. The restrictions imposed on people who made that choice is exceptionally authoritarian which I felt was outrageous. The whole approach made me very suspicious.

I also don't approve of the flu vaccine. The data suggests it isn't effective and it's not necessary for the majority of society. That I believe is a money spinner."
The compulsory nature of vaccines in an emergency will always be a tough one to deal with. If you think about vaccines as something that only protects you then you miss the point. Our public health systems are not equipped to deal with mass outbreaks of anything, that's not how they work and even today as we have an aging population we are seeing the original premise on which our public health systems were formed being put under massive strain, in addition to that you have the modern issues of obesity and diabetes. So there are two things - not everyone can get vaticinated and therefore those who can and don't put these people at greater risk and the second even if you are willing to take the risk that you will end up in hospital that is now putting the system under further strain because you did not want to take the vaccine. In an outbreak like covid what do you do? MMR was first stated to be used across the county in children in 1988 and in 2017 the WHO declared Ireland measles free. It took us forever to get to the 95% target. These were not the generals sitting safely behind away from the battle, these were people who were taking the same vaccine that we were asked to take. Authoritarian, there are accepted limits on free will for the sake of society, why was this any different? The biggest problem for me that came out of Covid is that technology will solve everything and that carries over into how people think about climate change and what we are doing to our environment.

zinny (National) - 16/12/2025 19:35:25

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To yew_tree:  "Another day another ridiculous outburst. The president statement on the death of Rob Reiner and his wife is disgraceful but sadly not surprising."
Indeed totally classless post.

jm25 (National) - 16/12/2025 09:19:42

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To zinny:  "However they were safe and this has been proven out through the subsequent years, Yet today there are people who still try to discredit the publics trust in the vaccinees, like they do others. Even within the FDA they are releasing information on Covid Vaccines and children with no factual basis. Is it just the covid one or you don't see why people need to take Vaccines?
Yes big Frarma made a lot of money out of covid but is that not the American way? I"
Get all the vaccines you want but don't force others to get them. Proven? By who? Why did Biden pardon Faucci? What could a hero like him need a pardon for? I am personally not against any vaccine as long as the relevant information is out there and that includes afterwards. Big Pharma can make all the money they want as long as it's honest money.

SouthGalway (National) - 16/12/2025 15:45:44

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Hard luck to Tubberclare at weekend our countys last hope in leinster, no Westmeath team has ever won it and i think at 50 mins in i would have backed them to see out the game by 2-3 points but momentum swung against them, cannot afford to have 3 fouls against the new rules, a couple of calls went against them and then 2 sucker punch goals when they probably should have had a chance of a 2-pointer to make it a 2 point game with 5 minutes to go. Lomans the last to come very close, The Downs obviously beaten a few years ago. Outside of Garrycastle when was the last final outing at any Grade? Actually forgot about Multy.

Maybe 2 smaller COE's is the way forward, cant call it COE in any case, Put 3 pitches in Mullingar, 3 Pitches in Athlone.

nadunta2025 (National) - 16/12/2025 15:43:15

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To TheFlaker:  "Good to see there's tinfoil head anti vax people on here."
Maybe they're not anti vax just anti mandate or being forced to get one. But I'm sure you know what's best for them Comrade.

SouthGalway (National) - 16/12/2025 15:38:32

Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To ConyersHill04:  "Was thinking McGuinness is no mug after all......

While astute at setting teams up, his inability to make switches under pressure is fatal."
Only seeing your replies now lads..... was in no shape a dig at McGuinness at all.

Should have elaborated that this was in relation to Kieran Donnelly's appointment as Eunan's manager as can be seen from the post I replied to.

All of the above applies coming from the experience of him managing my own club especially in the 2018 Ulster Club Final.

ConyersHill04 (National) - 16/12/2025 14:13:04

Club Hurling - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Magpie2:  "Difficult one to call.
The Martins are playing out of their skin right now.
The O'connor's are on fire and the whole team are playing as if their lives depended on it.
The win against Ballyhale has projected them to new heights and not like Wexford club teams in the time after Oulart will not cave in.
This is a massive game for them and the whole county.
Ballygunner are a brilliant team. Very strong defensively and they move the ball fast and accurately. They have six scoring forwards who will cause havoc if allowed.
The one thing that I worry about is the Martins lack in scoring goals. This may be crucial on Saturday and hopefully the net will bulge a few times in our favour.
As I said at the start of this post it's hard to predict but reluctantly I am giving the nod to Ballygunner.
However the Martins won't lie down and will fight to the very end and wouldn't it be fantastic for a Wexford club to be in an all ireland final.
Verdict-- Ballygunner to win by 3 points
( I sincerely hope I am very wrong )"
It is hard to gauge Ballygunnar in Munster, historically it is weaker province when it comes to senior club hurling.

Eire Og were poor the last day.

The conditioning, speed and fitness levels of the Martins is phenomenal but Jack and Rory will need a 9 out of 10 performance to beat Ballygunnar.

Past hurler (National) - 16/12/2025 13:54:24

Patrick Mcbrearty - 1 Like(s)
A superb footballer. A Dub and all ;)

Best of luck to him, what a servant to Donegal football.

MesAmis (National) - 16/12/2025 13:32:42

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Freethinker:  "Did you notice that Mr T used a term which has been slung at some of us on here "Trump Derangement Syndrome"."
I did

jm25 (National) - 16/12/2025 11:45:59

Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To MalsBalls:  "The original post mentioned injury concerns and thats the point. i think if he was fully fit he'd have certainly picked up an all star at some point...btw walshe and mccarthy have all stars...dont know about your criteria for "monaghan greats" but thats enough for me and as i say hughes surely wouldve gotten one if he was fit

btw an all star isnt the only thing to make someone an all time great. finlay and darren hughes two good examples"
Yes, no debate he was a magnificent footballer, but cant look back on his career with couldves, shouldves and Ifs.

To put Kieran Hughes in the same bracket as 3 time and 2 time all stars is crazy.

Who is a better footballer in their pomp, Kieran Hughes or Conor Mc Carthy ? Surely Mc carthy.

monaghanmad (National) - 16/12/2025 11:20:58

Club Championship Predictions Competition - Week7 - 1 Like(s)
Thanks lockjaw,it's been very enjoyable..have a great Christmas.

CTGAA10 (National) - 16/12/2025 11:19:25

Club Hurling - 1 Like(s)
Difficult one to call.
The Martins are playing out of their skin right now.
The O'connor's are on fire and the whole team are playing as if their lives depended on it.
The win against Ballyhale has projected them to new heights and not like Wexford club teams in the time after Oulart will not cave in.
This is a massive game for them and the whole county.
Ballygunner are a brilliant team. Very strong defensively and they move the ball fast and accurately. They have six scoring forwards who will cause havoc if allowed.
The one thing that I worry about is the Martins lack in scoring goals. This may be crucial on Saturday and hopefully the net will bulge a few times in our favour.
As I said at the start of this post it's hard to predict but reluctantly I am giving the nod to Ballygunner.
However the Martins won't lie down and will fight to the very end and wouldn't it be fantastic for a Wexford club to be in an all ireland final.
Verdict-- Ballygunner to win by 3 points
( I sincerely hope I am very wrong )

Magpie2 (National) - 16/12/2025 10:46:43