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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "You are clueless. You constantly ignore the fact there are too many matches during the year alongside the cost of attending games and most games are televised." Funny how it doesn't affect Hurling attendance figures even though the game may be televised live…. I suspect it might have something to do with the quality of fare that's on show….. The top guys know the game has become a basket case hence the trying out of a raft of rule changes at the one time never seen before in any sport but the deluded just can't bring themselves to admit it…. poor lads
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 11/10/2024 13:15:37
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Senior Club Football Championships 2024/25 - General Discussion - 2 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Well one of reasons club games are often better viewing, including in Dublin, is that there is a bit of edge there that is not present when better county teams play lower ranked.
Great crack watching lads who have soldiered with one another at county hopping off one another and worse in club games!" To me the hearthbeath of gaelic football lives within the club. I'm working off my phone so I'll try and keep it to the minimum.
I have scanned across recent club results and this is a sample of what I found.
Carlow. Co final.
Pal. 2-07 R'villy. 1-10
Cavan.
Ramor. 2-10 Gowna. 1-11.
Cork.
Neo Rangers. 0-19 Clonakilty. 2-13
Dublin.
Kilmacud. 1-12 Na Fianna. 0-12
Leitrim. SFC Final.
Ballinamore. 1-11 Mohill. 0-14.
Mayo.
Ballina. 1-18 Ballaghadreen. 2-18 AET.
Monghan.
Ballybay Pearse Bros. 0-19
Latton O'Rahillys 1-15 AET.
These are all club football games that were won or lost by the kick of a ball. My point being the hearthbeath of gaelic football is within the club.
My apologies to other counties I failed to post their results that were near misses, a draw or a win.
The results I posted were either a draw match or won or lost by the kick of a ball.
Unfortunately I'm for now working off my phone not easy when I'm all thumbs.
supersub15 (National) - 10/10/2024 22:48:23
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To iarmhiabu: "O'Keefe is still not the answer at full back, Dowdall has flirted with starting the new lad Lally so maybe he will again. He's a better defender than O'Keefe. Geoghegan will probably play at 6 but Mitchell pushed him around too easy two years ago. 2 E Hogan 4 O Hogan 5 Sam McCartan 7 Gaffney and Whelan will play sweeper. Heslin and Regan 8 and 9. 10 Foy? 11 O'Toole 12 Flanagan 13 TJ Cox 14 Dempsey 15 Danny McCartan. Such a strong forward line but they will nearly all drop off when they don't have the ball as BigSur says Loman's are gone so defensive under Dowdall. It tells you all you need to know, they're so bad man v man." Incredible that the highest scoring team in the county over the past two years plays such defensive football and that a team with such bad defenders is again in the county final!!! Doesn't say much for the rest of the teams
Claretandblue (National) - 11/10/2024 10:26:09
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Anti GAA Agenda - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah yes Hurling. The game of 2 provinces. Hurling is a minority sport compared to Gaelic football. So much so they had to get rid of 2 provinces to make it a viable competition. Hurling is brilliant to watch but it's a small number of teams playing each other more than once in a championship season to make sure it's a spectacle. Big attendances in the hurling games in Connaught and Ulster is there?" Big enough crowds at some Ulster club games. At the end of the day it's only a "minority sport" there because you have 2 Provinces largely populated by half-gaels;-)
Viking66 (National) - 11/10/2024 14:19:05
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Experimental Railway Cup - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Kickitout: "Was just reading all the 7 new rules the committee want to bring in firstly it's way 2 many changes God help referees if they bring them all in people might think football is bad now wait until all these rules come in football started getting bad because of all the rules I doubt there any other sport in the world amateur or professional with so many rules and changes format every few years get rid of mark completely it's a stupid rule now they suggest 1v 1 for thrown in they said 2 many fouls and bunching at thrown in ,,, in. Hurling there be at least 12 by team sliotar hits the ground in rooks ,, giving 2 points for kicking out side 40 metre arc stupid stuff there be more lines on the field than M 50 this committee has lost the run of themselves give it 2 years there be no ref to try implement these changes and no doubt more will come I doubt any young lad playing now will want play in goal all they be doing is kicking ball out that's it how underage keeper supposed kick ball outside 45 meters it be more in there line to change minor back to under 18 what most if not all clubs and county want that be a start and maybe even push all Ireland back 3-4 weeks and stop playing majority of county matches between jan - and end March" Time will tell if these rules will help gaelic football become an enjoyable spectator sport or not. I think one of the primary difficulties the GAA are grappling with is - how to curb the influence of the coaches who are paid significant sums of money to convert teams into winning or at least a competitive team(s). I think the theory is this; if a team can make themselves hard to beat by packing their defence then the team will ultimately become more successful. Not sure if results back up this theory or not. I've watched some club games and there isn't a problem with the rules as the game is played in a manner that is enjoyable to watch. Some people would like to see more contact in the games; contact between players appear to be minimised in recent years. This may be to reduce injury but it does remove an important ingredient of the game for some spectators. I think there is a case for one set of rules for the intercounty games and a different set of rules for the club games but I can understand why the GAA would be reluctant to do this as it is froth with complexity for officials and players alike.
wicklowsupport (National) - 11/10/2024 14:05:35
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Leitrim1234: "Ridiculous for Leitrim to loose two managers in the space of 3 months in Andy Moran and Mickey Graham. Effects both the senior team and the U20s.
A side point but we really are struggling to produce top home grown coaches in Leitrim.
Does anyone actually know why Graham is leaving or is it all rumour? Clarity is needed.
Talk of players leaving but the only two that it is known are actually gone is Mark Plunkett and Pearce Dolan. Who else?
We should also have more then capable U20s being promoted to the panel to offshoot this.
Being blunt we are not going to get any of the top level coaches so we either need a young coach looking to break into the intercounty game or a manager who has shown well previously with clubs or a county team.
Reality is also that the new rules (that should suit Leitrim) will mean any style a play that manager previously had in the last few years will have to change so its hard to know who will be comfortable with the new game.
My list to talk to would include:
Des Dolan
Dom Connellan (Roscommon man previously over Moycullen)
Alan Flynn (a brilliant coach St Mary's just lack inside forwards - a problem Leitrim don't have)
Enda McGinley
Declan Bonner
Dom Corrigan
Karl Lacey
Paddy Bradley (Was with Donegal last year) - Would probably bring Mark McHugh with him?
Larr Wall
Ciaran Meenagh
Jodie Gormley (current Trillick manager)
Whoever it is it needs to be sorted asap.
Not having a full time Athletic Development coach who oversees Seniors, U20s and minors (no matter who the manager is) is a huge issue when we start chopping and changing managers. Are the players from last year senior/u20s currently on a S&C plan like they were this time last year? If not we are already behind regardless of who the new manager is." Graham rumoured to be taking over Kilmacud.
sourmilk93 (National) - 11/10/2024 12:05:10
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Joe isn't holding back in the book. The bit about Lynesky and the minor captain shows why all the backbiting and begrudgery goes on
2maroonjerseys (National) - 11/10/2024 12:01:22
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Experimental Railway Cup - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Mayonman: "the only rule that should cause issues for the officials is the 3 up rule. i can see this being really tricky.
the other 6 should not be any issue for the ref
one v one throw in ......i'm sure they can count to 1!
kick out going 40m
no back pass to keeper
2 point scoring arc
solo and go..... very straight forward
mark .....new rule definitely better than old rule although getting rid of it might be best option
some of the other tweaks (not the 7 major ones) - foam to mark where frees are taken from, only captain taking to ref, 21 yard free for abuse etc should make things easier." 2 point scoring arc on a wet day on a poorly lined club pitch.......
Team 2 points down score a point ....was it inside or outside?
Where is not very fit middle aged ref?
Could he see the line at all?
Are other officials neutral?
Had both teams 3 up and 3 back ?
Seanfanbocht (National) - 11/10/2024 11:56:30
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To eoinog: "Why should anyone need to know why Graham is leaving ?. He's gone and obviously it's personal and that should be enough." There's serious rumours going round that a certain club in South Dublin has him lined up to replace their outgoing manager. If true, fairly low behaviour by all parties.
Square_B (National) - 11/10/2024 11:51:54
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Gaa_lover: "Might do coaching some where currently involved with the Mayo U20s however he More or less said he's done with inter county management his return to Mayo seniors a real eye opener with the criticism and pressure that comes with that role now compared to his first term." In fairness the delusion from fans over there about their inter county teams chances of winning anything are worse than ours.
eslinchickenmaryland (National) - 10/10/2024 15:57:58
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Anti GAA Agenda - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Im referring to Dublin. Catholic and Protestant "elite" schools all banned GAA, some until my memory. Of course you don't hear "historians" of our dreadful past on about that.
I was in vocational school in late 70s which was stopped from playing in Leinster junior cup because we were too close to a middle class school who objected! They had no GAA btw.
We had won Dublin football and soccer competitions and had All Ireland winning boxers and athletes. They were probably afraid we'd whip their asses." Thankfully times have changed Barney , sure lots of schools in Dublin banned 'foreign sports' like rugby back then. Blackrock College have an excellent hurling team now full of lads from Cuala and Crokes.
bad.monkey (National) - 11/10/2024 09:40:46
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Experimental Railway Cup - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "It's only a Rules trial series of Chalkenge games.
The old glorious Railway Cup is now with 21 aside, point posts, sideline throw ins, Bishop throwing in the ball etc in the GAA scrap yard." If they really want to revive some form of provincial competition link it in some form to the useless, unfair All-Star system that only recognizes players who get to the finals. Maybe the All-Star has to be first recognized by his province first or some connection other than moving the deck chairs around. We will soon see a goalie named at full forward to get him on the All-Star team.
Canuck (National) - 10/10/2024 22:50:16
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*** Donegal Championships Week 9 *** - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Lockjaw: "Think I'll leave that. People might not be familiar with the reserve championship." Yes that's fair enough Lock as I'd defo agree that the lack of knowledge amongst posters would be an issue judging by some of the guff you would read.
Thanks again for facilitating the competition
eunans4ever (National) - 10/10/2024 21:01:17
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Anti GAA Agenda - 1 Like(s)
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "It's the only sport in Ireland that has seen a huge drop in attendance figures over the last number of years but don't let that keep you out of your fantasy world….. good lad" You are clueless. You constantly ignore the fact there are too many matches during the year alongside the cost of attending games and most games are televised.
TheFlaker (National) - 10/10/2024 17:49:54
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Anyone finding this introduction of no contact November a bit bizarre? Especially for a team like us getting a new manager and him possibly not being able to contact his players for his first month in the hot seat!!! How will he tell them when is training? How will he pick a panel? . Not being able to talk to his players for his first month in charge will be a massive disadvantage and could ultimately lead to his demise.
leitrimfan123 (National) - 10/10/2024 16:56:02
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Temple56: "Manager to be announced early next week.
It's an outside manager with no experience as the main man in an inter county set up. Back room team being finalised.
Lar Wall was interested in the job but was never contacted by the committee.
I feel people will be left very underwhelmed with the appointment." Still no word on manager
Mattyreilly (National) - 10/10/2024 16:40:12
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