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We got absolutely hammered in the 2009 AI semi final by Tipp. It was the worst experience id ever had in Croke park up to that point (which is saying something) but it laid the foundations for the current team. Men with the absolute best interests of "Limrick" hurling (to paraphrase Katser), sat down and asked how do we make sure this never happens again ? Despite the narrative around JP McManus money, he had been our sponsor for years at that point. But it wasn't managed wisely .. the county board, fair play omtk them, took on a lot of recommendations and a serious effort to cultivate and organise underage structures were put in place..Paul Kinnerks falling out with Davy Fitz in Clare, was a great thing for Limerick, as he got involved and was allowed to implement his coaching vision. All that, and a generational group of hurlers gave us what we have today... but it came from some very hard work and on the back of a miserable experience where lessons had to be learned. There's no reason why Galway can't do the same thing.. you have all the raw ingredients... to be honest, when we go into decline, I think all Limerick hurling people would be delighted to see you take over our mantle an go on a run of all Ireland wins.. it would be well deserved.. keep the faith.... skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1124 - 23/07/2026 21:32:40 2686849 Link 0 |
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Can't argue with Tipperary hurling All Ireland win ratio which is at 69% in finals. Tipperary All Ireland Hurling Finals Total appearances: 42 Total Wins: 29 Total Losses: 13 Win Ratio: 69% Kilkenny All Ireland Hurling Finals Total appearances: 61 Total Wins: 36 Total Losses: 25 Win Ratio: 59% Cork All Ireland Hurling Finals Total appearances: 61 Total Wins: 30 Total Losses: 22 Win Ratio: 58% Galway All Ireland Hurling Finals Total appearances: 26 Total Wins: 5 Total Losses: 21 Win Ratio: 19% Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1040 - 24/07/2026 09:46:07 2686873 Link 1 |
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What is with the level of giving out about michael Donoghue. You are probably the fifth or sixth best team Ros2013 (Roscommon) - Posts: 673 - 24/07/2026 10:06:54 2686875 Link 0 |
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So what your saying is that the reason as to why Limerick are dominant now is down to Davy...
ColmFlaherty (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 24/07/2026 10:52:16 2686884 Link 0 |
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They had damn strong underage teamd all through the Teen wining. Munster Under 21 Titles in 11,15 and 17 and strong Minor teams throughout the decades, even if they did not win a All Ireland.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4565 - 24/07/2026 11:39:17 2686892 Link 0 |
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Maybe the team from 2020 - 24/25 as 5th or 6th but not the current team.
ColmFlaherty (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 24/07/2026 12:37:37 2686911 Link 0 |
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The difference is the quality of the groups which came through. We haven't won an U20/21 All-Ireland in 15 years. We've been hammered in the few finals we've been in since then. Hard to see how we would have great expectations based on that. Limerick compounded two excellent teams in close succession, who won both their U21 finals well. A big difference in quality there. Almost all of those players were playing and winning Fitzgibbon finals between two different colleges also. When is the last time we had a few groups like that in their late teens early 20s? Minor is a long way from that. None of our consecutive All-Ireland winning minor teams came close to winning an U20/21. That's why it was never us. Winning underage is no guarantee, but it's very rare you'll see a dynasty type team at senior who haven't been successful at underage. The Dublin footballers were built off 4 All-Ireland winning U21 teams, with a few years between them, which kept their reign going a bit longer. The quality of player on those teams was exceptional. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2962 - 24/07/2026 12:48:01 2686916 Link 0 |