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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Seriously, do not insult my intelligence.

Níl aon Gaeltacht i Tír Eoghain. Fuair an teanga beo bás fadó. Tá gaeligoirí sa contae, mar aon le gach contae eile sa tír."
Lol Barney, at what age did you decide you were more knowledgeable about everything? Nobody knows or cares about your intelligence but you seem to think we're all idiots about every topic

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 25/04/2024 16:59:53    2540641

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Seriously, do not insult my intelligence.

Níl aon Gaeltacht i Tír Eoghain. Fuair an teanga beo bás fadó. Tá gaeligoirí sa contae, mar aon le gach contae eile sa tír."
I didn't say there were Gaeltachts there. Only that there were real native Irish speakers there who were brought up talking the language less than 100 years ago. Yes it died out, and yes there are attempts to revive it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 25/04/2024 18:40:11    2540651

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Lol Barney, at what age did you decide you were more knowledgeable about everything? Nobody knows or cares about your intelligence but you seem to think we're all idiots about every topic"
I don't think he was implying that tbf. Not sure what Viking took from that article about Irish in Tyrone but Barney is correct in making the distinction between Irish speakers in a county or even gaelscoileanna in a county and a gaeltacht.
A real gaeltacht, not the official pseudo/cur i gcéill Gaeltacht, is where Irish is the every day spoken language of a community i.e at home, in the school yard, in the local pubs, in the local shops, at work, in church, on the GAA pitch etc. In most of the country, outside of the towns and cities, Irish was the living language of the majority until the 1850s and the word gaeltacht didn't exist until a Free State commission invented the term in 1926 to describe the pockets of Irish speaking areas that had survived, mostly along the western seaboard. There has been a gradual decline, for various reasons of those gaeltachts, a decline that was accelerated, ironically, in the 1980s with the return of English-speaking emigrants, due to the availability of work and a better standard of living. In Connemara, for example, the majority of the mothers in the 1970s were native Irish speakers but 10 years later those mothers were in the minority.

On the other hand since the 1970s there have been attempts at revival outside of the Gaeltacht, especially with gaelscoileanna in the cities. That's another story, a positive one but one where the state's attitude and action for many years has been negative and unsupportive.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1800 - 25/04/2024 20:12:24    2540665

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Replying To galwayford:  "very sad program on RTE last night. About the 1997, murder of Seán Brown, the chairman of Wolfe Tones GAC, of Bellaghy in Co. Down. By the LVF or UVF renegades. He was killed in retaliation for the killing of Policeman by the INLA. Serving members of the security services were involved in the killing and cover up."
RTÉ come in for some criticism but they have to get praise for this programme on the cowardly murder of family man Sean Brown.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 25/04/2024 21:29:21    2540674

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Replying To Saynothing:  "RTÉ come in for some criticism but they have to get praise for this programme on the cowardly murder of family man Sean Brown."
I agree, an excellent programme. It made me very angry to see what that lovely family had to endure - all the state collusion and lies, similar to what is happening to the poor Palestinians at the moment.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1800 - 26/04/2024 09:18:20    2540707

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