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So the Semi Finals are to take place this weekend. Lancashire v Scotland London v Warwickshire. Lancashire and London haven't lost a game yet where as Scotland and Warwickshire both came through back door games. Here's the thing.... Lancashire who haven't lost a game have to travel to Glasgow to play Scotland 4hr drive there, 4 hr drive back and London who haven't lost a game have to travel to Birmingham to play Warwickshire. How does that work????????? How is the draw made? Is there a representative from the Counties involved at the draw? Who adjudicates the draw? A neutral venue half way between the teams playing would be better but even that hasn't been suggested as a compromise. And then there are questions as to why players arent bothering with this competition and representing there Counties. tribesman_10 (Galway) - Posts: 96 - 20/06/2016 14:57:02 1869696 Link
The competition is a farce, in my county I witnessed 11 lads togged and doing a mediocre training for the county team at a club ground. At the other side of the pitch the club team had 32 training and not one played for the county. The game in Frongoch was a joke as well, 2 teams which were hammered in the competition got to compete for a cup.. I agree with Tribesman, how can 2 winning teams not have a home draw???? daftdave (Mayo) - Posts: 83 - 21/06/2016 09:52:49 1870028 Link
Replying To tribesman_10: "So the Semi Finals are to take place this weekend. Lancashire v Scotland London v Warwickshire. Lancashire and London haven't lost a game yet where as Scotland and Warwickshire both came through back door games. Here's the thing.... Lancashire who haven't lost a game have to travel to Glasgow to play Scotland 4hr drive there, 4 hr drive back and London who haven't lost a game have to travel to Birmingham to play Warwickshire. How does that work????????? How is the draw made? Is there a representative from the Counties involved at the draw? Who adjudicates the draw? A neutral venue half way between the teams playing would be better but even that hasn't been suggested as a compromise. And then there are questions as to why players arent bothering with this competition and representing there Counties." If its an open draw then nothing to complain about. shakespeare (UK) - Posts: 27 - 21/06/2016 11:23:20 1870083 Link
Replying To shakespeare: "If its an open draw then nothing to complain about." doesn't really answer your question about the draw but this is the format on the website: The Junior Inter-County Football Championship be played in the following format: •Round 1 - Open draw, 8 teams, 4 games. •Round 2 - 4 winners will play each other for a place in the semi-final. 4 losers will play each other. •Round 3 - Winners of losers will play the losers of winners in Round 2. Shield Final between the losers of the losers group played in Round 2. •Round 4 - Semi-Finals (Winners from Winners Group to be seeded and play against winners from Round 3. •Round 5 - Final. •Any County that fails to field in any round of the Provincial Junior Football Championship will be liable to a £500 penalty 5. In the event of a draw, extra time to be played in all Inter-County and Provincial Club Championship Games, except those games played on a round robin basis. lillieman (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 21/06/2016 12:43:43 1870148 Link
Replying To lillieman: "doesn't really answer your question about the draw but this is the format on the website: The Junior Inter-County Football Championship be played in the following format: •Round 1 - Open draw, 8 teams, 4 games. •Round 2 - 4 winners will play each other for a place in the semi-final. 4 losers will play each other. •Round 3 - Winners of losers will play the losers of winners in Round 2. Shield Final between the losers of the losers group played in Round 2. •Round 4 - Semi-Finals (Winners from Winners Group to be seeded and play against winners from Round 3. •Round 5 - Final. •Any County that fails to field in any round of the Provincial Junior Football Championship will be liable to a £500 penalty 5. In the event of a draw, extra time to be played in all Inter-County and Provincial Club Championship Games, except those games played on a round robin basis." Good spot. No mention of home advantage so must have been an open draw in that respect. According to the website Lancs have yet to play away? Is that right? Maybe that is why they are away. Neutral venues for semi-finals would be ideal in reality but there we go. shakespeare (UK) - Posts: 27 - 21/06/2016 13:02:32 1870160 Link
Used to be that if a county was drawn at home in the 1st round, then the next game would be away. In terms of the last point made on the first post on this thread (And then there are questions as to why players arent bothering with this competition and representing there Counties. tribesman_10 (Galway) - Posts:92 - 20/06/2016 14:57:02 1869696), what the thoughts? Carnaross (None) - Posts: 189 - 21/06/2016 15:07:11 1870271 Link
Lancs beat Warwickshire in Birmingham macs4eva (UK) - Posts: 107 - 21/06/2016 15:29:27 1870290 Link
Good to see a bit of debate on here at long last and with the revamped forum, things look more attractive. Open draw, but teams who have won their games have been punished for having to take long away trips. Hopefully rectified in the future. Hard to tell for the semi-finals. Proof in the pudding will be the final when the two teams who get there will have probably the whole of the county to choose from, as it is the final., and players will make themselves available. The fact that probably no one on here has seen other teams play more than once will be a disadvantage in picking winners. Regarding Frongach, it was a great day. The football wasn't great but the pitch available suited the strengths of the two teams and the 13 aside which they had to play. derrycitymucker (Derry) - Posts: 18 - 21/06/2016 18:45:40 1870415 Link
At the end of the day it is what it is but the fixtures can be structured from the out set prior to any football being kicked for 2016 surely. The Teams that havent lost a game and got to Semi Final should have the home advantage. How can the teams that come in through back door get the home advantage. Even the "they played away they should play at home" rule is crap. Lancs play away to Warwickshire Scotland play at home to Kilkenny Shouldnt Lancs have to play at home and Scotland away then?????? One rule for one............. tribesman_10 (Galway) - Posts: 96 - 22/06/2016 15:55:20 1870799 Link
Replying To tribesman_10: "At the end of the day it is what it is but the fixtures can be structured from the out set prior to any football being kicked for 2016 surely. The Teams that havent lost a game and got to Semi Final should have the home advantage. How can the teams that come in through back door get the home advantage. Even the "they played away they should play at home" rule is crap. Lancs play away to Warwickshire Scotland play at home to Kilkenny Shouldnt Lancs have to play at home and Scotland away then?????? One rule for one............." I dont agree its one rule for one. Just a stupid rule for everyone. Warks have played London in Birmingham 3 yrs in a row. macs4eva (UK) - Posts: 107 - 22/06/2016 16:08:08 1870806 Link
Ireland v France Sunday 2pm... Will the Provincial Council move matches? Hopefully. shakespeare (UK) - Posts: 27 - 22/06/2016 22:55:32 1870954 Link
its championship lads, surely like most championship games a neutral venue would make it more attractive for the competition as a whole. Yes it may need a revamp but where is that opportunity provided. I heard the Kilkenny lads had to leave Ireland at 6am on Sunday morning for a game at 3 pm that day. lillieman (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 23/06/2016 10:27:23 1871062 Link
Warks v London now at 11 45 macs4eva (UK) - Posts: 107 - 23/06/2016 22:28:37 1871388 Link
well who do you think will win the replay this Saturday of Scotland v Lancashire? Do they have a hope against London? derrycitymucker (Derry) - Posts: 18 - 28/06/2016 20:52:42 1873537 Link
Lancs should win this replay and i can't see them beating london they look well organised. Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 527 - 29/06/2016 13:07:31 1873781 Link
fair play to London, and this only their junior team! hawkeye82 (Kerry) - Posts: 202 - 29/06/2016 13:20:44 1873792 Link
Anyone know why Scotland and Lancashire not going ahead tomorrow? Kind of makes a mockery of the whole competition if walkover given at semi final stage... lillieman (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 02/07/2016 20:03:35 1875126 Link
Replying To lillieman: "Anyone know why Scotland and Lancashire not going ahead tomorrow? Kind of makes a mockery of the whole competition if walkover given at semi final stage..." Scotland were unable to field. Lancashire V London should make a good final. Both counties are taking the competition seriously. Winners to play Kerry. maroonandwhite (UK) - Posts: 63 - 05/07/2016 16:41:00 1876889 Link
Lancashire All Britain Champions 2016 Beating London by 1 point 2.6 to 1.10 Lancashire play Kerry in All Ireland Junior Semi Final @ Old Bedian Didsbury on 23rd Juy. Time to be confirmed. tribesman_10 (Galway) - Posts: 96 - 11/07/2016 14:18:15 1880959 Link