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Replying To veterngaa:  "
Replying To monaghan12:  "Get your votes in for the best hogan stand monaghan form user folks.
Nominees,,,

Veterngaa - always a good man for some inside knowledge he has been a keen monaghan forum user for manys a day now. Mr Reliable some would say

ORIELMAN85 - Again, an absolute stalwart of the monaghan forum he is a great fella for a dig and always there to back up his county. A real cult hero 'for want of a better word'.

seanie08 For this fellas sheer never say die attitude he has to be the favourite. With 1800 posts, we will do very well to find any man to top him. Consistency is key.

Last but not least we have... 'Sleater' Come the man come the hour, sleater has been posting on here since day 1. He loves to slate a fella but when he stays dry for a couple of days he has quite legitamite ball knowledge."
You forgot "Mr Currin" himself mick2007"
arguably blueblood4life and PolicemanFox should be on the list too

monaghan12 (Monaghan) - Posts: 11 - 24/04/2024 11:12:35    2540375

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Replying To Bernardo:  "We have no pace up front. Mccarron and mcmanus are slow. Attacking at speed seems to be in vogue now in Ulster. Great to watch a team trying to attack at speed"
Who do you have in mind .........your own county Cavan ? lol

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 348 - 24/04/2024 13:36:35    2540405

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Hardcore?

222 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 24/04/2024 13:45:46    2540411

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After watching the game lastnight it makes no sense to me why Monaghan gave the Tyrone team all of their kickouts. This tactic is never used anymore and any team who are looking to win the game will press up on atleast some of the other teams kickouts. Completely the managements fault for being bet lastnight.

Monaghan2011 (Monaghan) - Posts: 7 - 25/04/2024 08:50:06    2540541

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Replying To Monaghan2011:  "After watching the game lastnight it makes no sense to me why Monaghan gave the Tyrone team all of their kickouts. This tactic is never used anymore and any team who are looking to win the game will press up on atleast some of the other teams kickouts. Completely the managements fault for being bet lastnight."
Total nonsense. If they had pushed up they would have been destroyed. Have you any football brain. They same tactic worked in other games,with the push up in the latter stages. Credible performance against a talented Tyrone team. A little luck and would have been in final. A few costly wides. All in all a good year for team and management. All gave improved as footballers and some should progress onto the Senior team in the near future, which is what it is all about at the end of the day. As I have said on a few occasions Monaghan football is in a good place.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 116 - 25/04/2024 13:52:18    2540610

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Replying To Monaghan2011:  "After watching the game lastnight it makes no sense to me why Monaghan gave the Tyrone team all of their kickouts. This tactic is never used anymore and any team who are looking to win the game will press up on atleast some of the other teams kickouts. Completely the managements fault for being bet lastnight."
It worked against Armagh last week, but I too was surprised to see it employed for most of the game.

However, Tyrone is chock full of fast, strong attacking players. If the press is beaten, there's a very good chance that they would have easily cut through a dispersed Monaghan defence.

What we saw last night was a very good Monaghan defence that generated repeated turnovers and ran a counter attacking game.

It almost worked, a few more minutes would have been interesting

It's just a pity, just like in Armagh game, we had such a reliance on one player for scores, albeit all from frees or marks. A bit more teeth in attack could have been a difference.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 25/04/2024 14:24:08    2540617

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Surely Max Mcginnity or Tommy Mallon could have made a difference here. Also an exceptional talent such as Niall Rice left sitting on bench when scores where at a premium seems strange to say the least

updafaughs (Monaghan) - Posts: 53 - 25/04/2024 14:51:39    2540620

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Replying To Monaghan2011:  "After watching the game lastnight it makes no sense to me why Monaghan gave the Tyrone team all of their kickouts. This tactic is never used anymore and any team who are looking to win the game will press up on atleast some of the other teams kickouts. Completely the managements fault for being bet lastnight."
Couldn't believe, they done this myself,everyone around me was saying the same thing .

patmouse (Monaghan) - Posts: 112 - 25/04/2024 15:16:46    2540625

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "It worked against Armagh last week, but I too was surprised to see it employed for most of the game.

However, Tyrone is chock full of fast, strong attacking players. If the press is beaten, there's a very good chance that they would have easily cut through a dispersed Monaghan defence.

What we saw last night was a very good Monaghan defence that generated repeated turnovers and ran a counter attacking game.

It almost worked, a few more minutes would have been interesting

It's just a pity, just like in Armagh game, we had such a reliance on one player for scores, albeit all from frees or marks. A bit more teeth in attack could have been a difference."
I honestly thought the tactic worked. You are correct in that Tyrone has some very athletic runners like Shea O'Hare, Cormac Devlin etc to flood forward for a press would have been hugely risky.

Defensively Monaghan were very good. Orgnaised, by and large disciplined in tackling Monaghan turned over Tyrone time and time again and forced Tyrone into shooting from low percentage scoring zones. It worked as Tyrone didn't have the players to score from those areas.

Monaghan broke forward at pace and the only thing that let them down was some wild shooting from very scoreable positions. They had a lot of wides. Monaghan really should have had a least a draw in this game. You couldn't fault this U20 groups workrate and effort. I'd be heartened by what I seen last night for the upcoming future of Monaghan football , we've got some excellent players coming through from this particular U20 group, especially defenders and a couple of some marquee forwards. Also a pity that McQuillan and Conlon were out injured for this game. They definitely would have added something extra to this team.

What's promising is that 6 of the starting team (plus the injured McQuillan and a couple of the subs) are available next year. And then you will have the pick of last year's outstanding minor team to add the mix.

I'll be looking forward to the club championships to see how these players continue to develop.

sleater (Monaghan) - Posts: 152 - 25/04/2024 15:44:58    2540629

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Replying To patmouse:  "Couldn't believe, they done this myself,everyone around me was saying the same thing ."
It essentially takes the strong middle third out of it. You try get their poorest player on the ball and leave your plus 1… they obviously watched their games and decided if they push up and lose the ball in the middle they are left man to man they are in trouble. If Derry had a Time Machine I don't think they would have pushed up last Sunday …

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 389 - 25/04/2024 16:30:31    2540633

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Total nonsense. If they had pushed up they would have been destroyed. Have you any football brain. They same tactic worked in other games,with the push up in the latter stages. Credible performance against a talented Tyrone team. A little luck and would have been in final. A few costly wides. All in all a good year for team and management. All gave improved as footballers and some should progress onto the Senior team in the near future, which is what it is all about at the end of the day. As I have said on a few occasions Monaghan football is in a good place."
So your saying they shouldn't of pushed up when they were down by 4 with ten minutes to go when they had great chances to push the lockout after some of mooneys and still they say back and invited on pressure

Monaghan2011 (Monaghan) - Posts: 7 - 25/04/2024 17:39:04    2540646

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