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Replying To Spoddgy:  "Well we could let ye have the stand(s) that are standing only and we will have the rest of croke park at standing prices. Happy?"
Sounds good to me my owl flower

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/02/2017 19:29:10    1951022

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Yea,you say if Mayo had even one class finisher we may not have been as dominant.Well,you could say Dublin have had six lethal forwards over the last few years.And still,we are scraping past a team with barely one topclass,freescoring forward.This is part of the reaason why i'm a little surprised we haven't been able to dominate an All Ireland final as of yet.There is absolutely no comparison with our forwards and Mayo's,yet we have scraped home in our 2 All Irelands (3 incl draw) against them."
Yeh once again I'd put it down to how tight and structured the Kerry and Mayo defenses were.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 01/02/2017 19:47:18    1951029

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh once again I'd put it down to how tight and structured the Kerry and Mayo defenses were."
Or our forwards didn't play to their full potential.Bit of both in my opinion.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 01/02/2017 20:09:23    1951038

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No Dublin forward scoring for the first 30 minutes of last years final.Good defense or not,thats unheard of for this team.Please God we will turn it on when it matters most this year.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 01/02/2017 20:14:51    1951039

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Indeed cue, it will be an interesting year to say the least.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 01/02/2017 21:51:15    1951065

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Another whinging thread
Amazing how nobody suggests reducing Celtic in Scotland the same country boyos are quite happy to don their Celtic colours and cheer them on against a load of micky mousers, sure the same boyos are quite happy cheering man utd who dwarf the majority of others in their resources for the last 20 years until a few rich foreigners bought clubs in England.
when all is said and done Jim Gavin can only pick 15 players to start the game and 11 others to have on the bench the same as any other county manager so having whatever number of club players means didlysquat, the same as having 60thousand supporters in the ground can't put the ball over the bar no matter how loud they cheer.
all the training equipment and fancy clubhouses and state of the art centres of excellence the country boyos have all invested in cannot give them the talent id it's not already there."
agree or not with reducing dublin what does celtic have to do with anything?..they are a professional football club?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/02/2017 09:53:18    1951143

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Replying To alano12:  "agree or not with reducing dublin what does celtic have to do with anything?..they are a professional football club?"
Haha, strange comparison alright and anyways I'm pretty sure Glasgow has 2 teams already....

Going back to the spilting Dublin in 2 debate. I would be completely against it. Dublin had a barron enough spell from 1995 to 2011 and put alot of work into underage coaching and facilities etc. I know there's funding issues in relation to all this but it wasn't and isn't Dublin's fault. I think the GAA is in a better place when you have strong Dublin and Kerry teams as most sports have historically strong successful teams and every other team wants to beat them and young kids growing up want to play for or against them depending on their circumstances. Obviously alot more work is needed in some of the "weaker" counties but as even Dublin showed in their barron spell it doesn't happen over night.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 02/02/2017 11:06:37    1951173

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Replying To alano12:  "agree or not with reducing dublin what does celtic have to do with anything?..they are a professional football club?"
The point being people are whinging about it being uncompetitive in leinster and the same people don't have a problem with the Scottish league being a coronation for the last 5 years to their beloved Celtic, it's only in Ireland people whinge when others are succesfull instead of getting off their backsides and doing something themselves to come up to that level they want to reduce the successful teams.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/02/2017 14:46:08    1951250

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "The point being people are whinging about it being uncompetitive in leinster and the same people don't have a problem with the Scottish league being a coronation for the last 5 years to their beloved Celtic, it's only in Ireland people whinge when others are succesfull instead of getting off their backsides and doing something themselves to come up to that level they want to reduce the successful teams."
but there a professional sports team?..it has 0 relevance and glasgow already has a notable other team...very weird comparison to make!

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/02/2017 16:55:51    1951295

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Replying To alano12:  "but there a professional sports team?..it has 0 relevance and glasgow already has a notable other team...very weird comparison to make!"
That has nothing got to do with it being uncompetitive and the same people having no problem supporting the Scottish league continuing that way as long as there team Celtic are winning it but the same people whinge because Dublin have set the bar in football and they are from a different county.
Sidenote if your trying to suggest rangers are competition these days just because they used to be a big club nearly a decade ago just look at the league table Celtic have only had won game they didn't win in 20 and that was even a draw.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/02/2017 19:19:10    1951324

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Replying To Mobot:  "Haha, strange comparison alright and anyways I'm pretty sure Glasgow has 2 teams already....

Going back to the spilting Dublin in 2 debate. I would be completely against it. Dublin had a barron enough spell from 1995 to 2011 and put alot of work into underage coaching and facilities etc. I know there's funding issues in relation to all this but it wasn't and isn't Dublin's fault. I think the GAA is in a better place when you have strong Dublin and Kerry teams as most sports have historically strong successful teams and every other team wants to beat them and young kids growing up want to play for or against them depending on their circumstances. Obviously alot more work is needed in some of the "weaker" counties but as even Dublin showed in their barron spell it doesn't happen over night."
Totally disagree with the GAA being better when trafitional teams are great. In the 90's Dublin and Kerry were fairly poor. All Ireland's were very spread. Cork won 1, Down won 2, Donegal won 1, Derry won 1, Dublin won 1, Kerry won 1, Meath won 2 and Galway won 1. That is a massive spread and would definitely get more people playing in those counties. Even Offaly, Cavan and Leitrim broke through to win provincials. Even in hurling, Kilkenny got 2, Cork got 2, Tipp got 1. But Clare and Offally got 2 each and Wexford got 1. Interesting to see when the economy did well smaller counties also did well

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1459 - 02/02/2017 20:09:14    1951334

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Totally disagree with the GAA being better when trafitional teams are great. In the 90's Dublin and Kerry were fairly poor. All Ireland's were very spread. Cork won 1, Down won 2, Donegal won 1, Derry won 1, Dublin won 1, Kerry won 1, Meath won 2 and Galway won 1. That is a massive spread and would definitely get more people playing in those counties. Even Offaly, Cavan and Leitrim broke through to win provincials. Even in hurling, Kilkenny got 2, Cork got 2, Tipp got 1. But Clare and Offally got 2 each and Wexford got 1. Interesting to see when the economy did well smaller counties also did well"
Can't see Dublin weaken. Isn't J Mc C back with them? Also, they have an endless supply of young superb players.
J Mc C back + Endless Supply of Young Talent + Experience of Older Great Players = Dubs for Sam 3in Row!l

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 02/02/2017 20:55:55    1951342

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "That has nothing got to do with it being uncompetitive and the same people having no problem supporting the Scottish league continuing that way as long as there team Celtic are winning it but the same people whinge because Dublin have set the bar in football and they are from a different county.
Sidenote if your trying to suggest rangers are competition these days just because they used to be a big club nearly a decade ago just look at the league table Celtic have only had won game they didn't win in 20 and that was even a draw."
its a completely different sport and system though...just seems like a very random comparison to make..dividing up a professional team wouldnt matter because they are all bought and paid for..it isnt decided on geography like we are!

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/02/2017 09:11:17    1951429

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That wasn't the point I was making
The point was about people's perceptions and attitudes when it's a team they support like celtic they turn a blind eye to the uncompetitiveness but when it's in a sport against the team they support they whinge whinge and whinge some more about everything been unfair instead of focusing on improving themselves.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/02/2017 17:10:04    1951614

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "That wasn't the point I was making
The point was about people's perceptions and attitudes when it's a team they support like celtic they turn a blind eye to the uncompetitiveness but when it's in a sport against the team they support they whinge whinge and whinge some more about everything been unfair instead of focusing on improving themselves."
So dubs fans are like celtic fans?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 03/02/2017 17:18:15    1951619

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Replying To Breffni39:  "So dubs fans are like celtic fans?"
I fail to see how ?
As I don't see non celtic supporters whinging in Scotland that it's uncompetitive and unfair on them full stop. it's non dubs who keep whinging here yet have no problem supporting teams in other sports that are succesfull and make it uncompetitive to neutrals

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/02/2017 20:02:38    1951665

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I fail to see how ?
As I don't see non celtic supporters whinging in Scotland that it's uncompetitive and unfair on them full stop. it's non dubs who keep whinging here yet have no problem supporting teams in other sports that are succesfull and make it uncompetitive to neutrals"
Ah hill kettle and black are the words come to mind

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/02/2017 20:46:13    1951676

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "That's about the same number of mayo supporters who stood at a match all year up until the all ireland final haha"
You really are a childish poster aren't ya. Blasting out that line for months now. I'm standing up as I type this if it makes you feel better

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 03/02/2017 21:04:15    1951682

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Replying To yew_tree:  "You really are a childish poster aren't ya. Blasting out that line for months now. I'm standing up as I type this if it makes you feel better"
You really are a poor sense of humour poster as you coudnt read the joke from a previous post in it!
oh and I am sitting down typing this

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/02/2017 21:23:04    1951691

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "Ah hill kettle and black are the words come to mind"
No mine is see through

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/02/2017 21:23:43    1951693

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