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Replying To extranjero: "The promotion if hurling in Connaught is a side issue. Its not pertinent or relevant to the isdue we are discussing right now. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:436 - 27/10/2016 19:47:29 I'm sorry but it is relevant. Why does everyone seem to think it's the job of the Leinster council to help counties in other provinces? I'm all for helping hurling development everywhere in the country, but that's the job of central council. The Leinster Councils priorities are, and should be, gaelic games in the 12 counties of Leinster. And if the Leinster council thinks it's serving the best interests of its members by not allowing another county partake in any specific competition it organises, then that's the decision it must take." Galway are helping Leinster as much as being 'helped' themselves. The province was a one sided shambles before they arrived. The only thing big anout it was the Bob O Keeffee cup. The deflecting of criticism is ridiculous. Leinster wont have a competitive football or hurling championship if as looks likely Galway leave. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/10/2016 10:28:08 1929767 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "I have to wonder about the people who are on the Leinster Council, they vote to keep the Dubs in Croker year on year while they won't even extend Galway the courtesy of a home game or two. What's even more farcical is the fact Kerry were in the Leinster round robin this year and were given home games in Tralee! Never mind the fact Galway's underage teams are still in no-man's land being left out of Leinster. Its been 5 years since Galway entered the Leinster HC, they are part of the furniture now. Given that there is a motorway all the way to Galway City, this argument about having to travel to Salthill is pathetic. Surely a Donegal supporter from Ardragh would be traveling the same length to get to Newry to play Down or Belfast to play Antrim. If I was the Galway County Board I'd be making it clear that either the decision is reversed or Galway will walk. I wonder would the Munster Council ever step in and offer Galway a place with a home and away agreement? I'd love to see Galway play in the Munster Championship." Galway used to play in the Munster Hurling Championship between 1959 to 1969 and they have ever only won championship match within that time. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 28/10/2016 10:33:58 1929769 Link
Replying To bloodyban: " Replying To extranjero: "The promotion if hurling in Connaught is a side issue. Its not pertinent or relevant to the isdue we are discussing right now. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:436 - 27/10/2016 19:47:29 I'm sorry but it is relevant. Why does everyone seem to think it's the job of the Leinster council to help counties in other provinces? I'm all for helping hurling development everywhere in the country, but that's the job of central council. The Leinster Councils priorities are, and should be, gaelic games in the 12 counties of Leinster. And if the Leinster council thinks it's serving the best interests of its members by not allowing another county partake in any specific competition it organises, then that's the decision it must take." Galway are helping Leinster as much as being 'helped' themselves. The province was a one sided shambles before they arrived. The only thing big anout it was the Bob O Keeffee cup. The deflecting of criticism is ridiculous. Leinster wont have a competitive football or hurling championship if as looks likely Galway leave." I'd have several issues with those comments: Galway are helping Leinster as much as being 'helped' themselves. If Galway are not in Leinster, they will just likely join the qualifiers at an earlier junction. If this were to happen then it is likely that, as previous, they would not have the same "safety net" as other teams in the provincial championship, so leaving Leinster would be more detrimental to them than to Leinster hurling, in general. *The province was a one sided shambles before they arrived. The only thing big anout it was the Bob O Keeffee cup...* Since joining, Galway have beaten Kilkenny in one of six matches and Dublin in one of three (not counting draws). I agree that they have helped competition in Leinster but they haven't exactly shook up the contest. *Leinster wont have a competitive football or hurling championship if as looks likely Galway leave.* Is it really likely they'll leave? The only suggestion of this I've heard is from a few posters on this thread who've suggested that they should threaten to leave or, maybe ultimately, leave but nothing from anyone in authority re this. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 28/10/2016 12:34:26 1929798 Link
Replying To Brianmac78: "Exactly. Galway and yourselves were invited in because you had no provincial championship. Why are Galway moaning now about no home game? Why should the Leinster championship be played in Connaught. Weren't they told this at the start?" I could be wrong here but was it not originally agreed 'back in the day' that Galway and Antrim would travel for every game initially but then it would be reviewed after 5 years or so to allow them to have home fixtures bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 28/10/2016 12:37:46 1929802 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Galway used to play in the Munster Hurling Championship between 1959 to 1969 and they have ever only won championship match within that time." So what? What point are you trying to make? Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 28/10/2016 12:53:02 1929807 Link
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that when Galway were in the Munster championship their minors and U21 teams were also in it. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 28/10/2016 12:54:30 1929808 Link
Replying To Condorman: "Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that when Galway were in the Munster championship their minors and U21 teams were also in it." they were not contenders then. Galway underage need to play in Leinster or Munster now, deal with this century maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 28/10/2016 13:25:29 1929818 Link
Replying To Condorman: "So what? What point are you trying to make?" Do the maths Conor? OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 28/10/2016 13:29:28 1929820 Link
Replying To Condorman: "Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that when Galway were in the Munster championship their minors and U21 teams were also in it." not sure to be honest, I doubt it. Anyway, time for all in or all out for Galway in one of the big provinces but I would rather they scrap the provinces in hurling they have created/maintained double standards. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1672 - 28/10/2016 14:18:01 1929836 Link
Replying To Brianmac78: "Exactly. Galway and yourselves were invited in because you had no provincial championship. Why are Galway moaning now about no home game? Why should the Leinster championship be played in Connaught. Weren't they told this at the start?" I have no issue with Galway not getting any Leinster Championship games played in Galway, but there is absolutely not reason whatsoever why our Minors and U-21s aren't allowed in to Leinster as well. It should be all or nothing, and I'd even go as far as putting the Galway club champions into Leinster too. It borders on ludicrous that our U-21s go straight into an All Ireland semi final, and play their first game at the end of August, with our Minors not faring much better. Time for the GAA to get off the fence, and sort this mess out. gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 28/10/2016 22:26:50 1929947 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "not sure to be honest, I doubt it. Anyway, time for all in or all out for Galway in one of the big provinces but I would rather they scrap the provinces in hurling they have created/maintained double standards." Indeed they were.Galway got to a Munster u21 final against Cork which I believe was played in Ballinasloe. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 28/10/2016 22:38:45 1929953 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Do the maths Conor?" Do the history, Ollie. No relevance to today. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1905 - 29/10/2016 12:50:26 1930006 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Do the history, Ollie. No relevance to today." Pool to understand the Present you have to look at the past. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 29/10/2016 14:26:53 1930023 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Do the maths Conor?" Maths? What in the name of all thats holy has their record in Munster got to do with being treated like 2nd class citizens in Leinster? If you lose you don't deserve a fair shake? is that it? I can recall Tipp going a fair few years in the MHC without winning a game either.So what? Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 29/10/2016 14:52:08 1930026 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Do the history, Ollie. No relevance to today." Pool to understand the present you have to look at the past. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 29/10/2016 15:31:39 1930033 Link
Replying To Condorman: "Maths? What in the name of all thats holy has their record in Munster got to do with being treated like 2nd class citizens in Leinster? If you lose you don't deserve a fair shake? is that it? I can recall Tipp going a fair few years in the MHC without winning a game either.So what?" Conor me oule flower. Relax and take a chill pill. Where did I say that Galway deserved to be treated like second class citizens? Galway only won one championship match in Munster in ten years and that is why they left it. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 29/10/2016 15:53:21 1930044 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Conor me oule flower. Relax and take a chill pill. Where did I say that Galway deserved to be treated like second class citizens? Galway only won one championship match in Munster in ten years and that is why they left it." I still fail to see the relevance of that to the issue being discussed here. And I am not your 'old flower' Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 29/10/2016 21:21:50 1930102 Link
Regarding Galway pulling out of Leinster Championship, its a bit more complacated than people make out here. Truth is the hurling counties in Leinster don't want Galway in the Leinster championship and would be happy if they left (maybe with the exception of Kilkenny who like the extra competition). Reason being is it is potentially harder now to win the Leinster championship with a strong non Leinster county in it. I mean it is a bit of a dissentive for teams like Wexford/Dublin/Offaly having Galway in. It was largely GAA headquarters who really pushed for Galway to be brought into Leinster championship not the hurling counties in Leinster who were happy to organise the competition for their own members. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1359 - 30/10/2016 07:54:05 1930127 Link
Replying To Condorman: "I still fail to see the relevance of that to the issue being discussed here. And I am not your 'old flower'" Galway were in the most competitive province for hurling for ten years and they only won one match so as the saying goes if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen so that's what they did. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 30/10/2016 08:21:15 1930129 Link
Couldn't agree whatsoever with Leinster games played in Galway , it's the Leinster championship full stop , if Galway are not happy just leave or look to go into Munster who from posters on here would be happy to have you. It's Connaught Gaa problem not Leinster ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 30/10/2016 12:01:30 1930151 Link