TheHermit
County: Kerry
Posts: 154

In response to your points
Another, point I want to make is why Kerry are always asked to wear blue when playing Mayo these days.
-- because the colours clash

The green and gold is most famous jersey in the GAA
-- i am sure tipperary dublin cork and kilkenny would be considered as famous

and I'd be more forceful about making sure we get to wear it,
Well them mayo would be entitled to do same - maybe kerry should wear gold with a green hoop thus keeping the famous green and gold

its not too often NZ are dictated to when it comes to taking off their All Black shirts.
-- when they play scotland at home and in more recent years when they play france they change they changed to white i
e.g RWC games - 1987 and 1995 QFs v Scotland 2007 QF v France
i grant you france opted to change to white for 2011 final to allow all blacks wear white

Sure when limerick play offaly we now wear blue even though you can easily distinguish colours

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 26/08/2014 13:00:59    1642211

Have to agree with those who have pointed out that a pitch is a pitch, a field of play, the same as any other and it shouldn't affect any of these players who, between club and county, will play in 15/20 different grounds in a season. Bit closer to Kerry alright to be fair, unless you're making the trip from south Kerry/Waterville area then its still 2.5hrs at least. Not looking forward to going through Abbeyfeale, Newcastle W and Adare (sweet Jaysus Adare).

6 day turnaround is stonewall unfair after the unbelievable effort those players put in on sunday, particularly Mayo. I think it will have a detrimental effect on the game as a whole and, dare I say it, might hurt Mayo marginally more given the second half they put in. Won't help the older legs on the Kerry team either.

Re atmosphere, entirely down to whats going on on the pitch. CP was absolutely hopping on sun with only 52k.

As for the game itself, can't call it. Both teams showed their hands to an extent and there's no denying Mayo's is stronger. Can they play like that for the full 70? Will that leave more space for Kerry attack? Will kerry be caught in possession as much? Is Donaghy ready for more than a cameo? Who'll fill Keegans massive boots? Can Kerry do anything to contain COC? Who has learned more from sunday?

Fascinating. Can't wait.

FullyForward (Kerry) - Posts: 13 - 26/08/2014 13:07:43    1642221

Can I ask, why do people think that a smaller pitch will suit mayo, when Kerry play with a load of guys behind the ball? It suits Kerry.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/08/2014 13:15:14    1642226

It will take more than the "famous green and gold" to save your lot on saturday. Mayo to win by 5 or 6

endatribe (Mayo) - Posts: 13 - 26/08/2014 13:18:05    1642229

just as well we have JOD so Edna ;)

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/08/2014 13:28:24    1642241

What size of pitch will suit Donaghy? Bet he will opt for the smaller option. Interesting to note how many Kerry supporters are pleased with playing in Limerick. Their own back yard.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 26/08/2014 13:44:32    1642256

Some ridiculous points being made there by TheHermit now to be honest.
All well answered by janesboro.

On the subject of Limerick wearing blue when playing Offaly. Well, I think this is a relatively new thing and is probably to do with the fact that Offaly changed their jersey 2 seasons ago and it is now fully green on the back in contrast to the green, white & gold hoops on the front. I imagine this is the reason why both teams change jerseys when playing one another, as the predominantly green backs on both sets of jerseys would make them almost indistinguishable in the heat of the moment during a game.

OffalyBigBall (Offaly) - Posts: 625 - 26/08/2014 13:50:12    1642264

Master, I think the, fairly flawed, argument that a narrow pitch suits us is because they think the wide open spaces of Croker would suit Kerry better than a narrow pitch.

Kerry look better on paper but we'll play them on grass.

I'll get the tumbleweeds!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 26/08/2014 13:54:55    1642268

Edna
Mayo by 4/5 ,You said the same thing last week kid, and crokepark deffo suits Kerry as we can drag the big lumbering mayo midfield all over the place and tire them out.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/08/2014 14:18:43    1642292

What ridiculous points would they be OffalyBigBall??? While you are not willing to elaborate on what you are taking exception to,I assume you are arguing that a sport such as Gaelic football is not influenced by anything other than relative strengths and skills of opposing teams and psychology has nothing to do with anything in it? Far enough if that's your belief, but I think its wrong and in an amateur sport a little bit of psychology can give a team an edge in a tight contest.

If you don't think that in the back of Mayo players minds there isn't a little communal sense of fear of Kerry and all they represent (which I believe was again in evidence by their very tentative play in the first half) than I don't think you have much understanding of the dynamics of this tie.

Who gives an flip what colours Limerick and Offaly play in when they meet, what relevance has a few meeting between in division 4 matches got in the context of Kerry's superb record against Mayo in finals, semi finals etc. Playing in our traditional colours helps in a small way to emphasise to this Mayo team who they are coming up against and all the associate mental baggage that it brings.

Many Mayo posters on here are full of bluster but all weekend, as with previous matches before, I didn't meet one Mayo fan who didn't worry about how their team would cope against us or wasn't concious of the record between both. You can talk all you want about mental strength of this Mayo team, but how can some of this not seep in. As I stated I believe it was very evident in first half, and very much on display in closing few minutes.

Kerry have won many matches down the years not because they were the better team on the days but because the opposition didn't believe them could win. The Kerry name, the Kerry jersey, Kerry's tradition counts for a hell of a lot in matches. Supporters outside the Kingdom would like to dismiss this idea and saying how modern game tradition and history means nothing, but time and again they have, are and will be proven wrong. We should be playing in Green and Gold and putting the fear of god further into them...

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/08/2014 14:42:05    1642316

the hermit & kingdomboy, mayo would have won if they had 15 on the pitch.
Kerry emptied their bench and the tanks and could only draw against 14 men.
Mayo will open the tanks the next day and up a gear..

There is no fear of kerry in this mayo team, i think kerry have the fear.

Roll on Saturday

Maigh Eo Abu

saddam (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 26/08/2014 15:02:46    1642334

"The Hermit" - You're taking complete jibber jabber. Any games Kerry have won down the years were won because they were the better team on the day. Same goes for all the games they've lost down the years - they were beaten by better teams on the day. It has nothing to do with the colour of their jerseys! This makes absolutely no difference. Mayo have been playing in patches all year. If they can put 50+ mins of their best football on the field this coming Saturday - they will beat Kerry. If they don't do this, they will probably loose. I predict Mayo to win by 5 or 6 and I won't change my mind before throw in unless there are radical team changes

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 26/08/2014 15:06:38    1642336

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but is Hawk Eye installed in the Gaelic Grounds?? If there's another situation like Moran's point the last day there could be war if the wrong decision is made in an AI semi final. I know Hawk Eye is new but the idea was to have it for the big games, all the big games.

JMK (Kerry) - Posts: 273 - 26/08/2014 15:15:11    1642342

Mayo gave it everything and still couldn't beat what is supposed to be an inferior Kerry team. That's the bottom line in the narrative of the second half.

So many of you seem so dazzled by Mayo's fight back, gifted to them by Kerry's inexperience and nativity, that you seem to think that Kerry played well but Mayo played better and that's why they won. Kerry were pretty poor on Sunday and if anyone doubts that just watch this game in comparison to their performance versus Cork a few weeks ago.

Given that, I expect Kerry to win handily enough if injuries are not serious as there are question marks over O'Brien, Sheehan and Declan. As commendable as Mayo's tenacity was it had the appearance of a team, now past their prime, giving one last display of defiance. Sadly for them, they didn't win and thus I think the hunger for next Saturday is spent.

And I reiterate my point, psychology has its role to play in any sport, if it didn't if passion, or tradition or pride meant nothing than all sport would be is a glorified mathematician equation. It isn't and tradition counts, esp a winning one!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/08/2014 15:23:51    1642354

No Hawk Eye outside of Croker.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 26/08/2014 15:32:57    1642361

The Hermit. "Mayongave it everything" what game were you watching? Can you honestly say Mayo gave it everything for even half the game? They played for 25 mins in second half
That was it.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 26/08/2014 15:46:38    1642376

As commendable as Mayo's tenacity was it had the appearance of a team, now past their prime, giving one last display of defiance. Sadly for them, they didn't win and thus I think the hunger for next Saturday is spent.

Swap the word mayo with Kerry, and you are getting the general view of most pundits on the upcoming game...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/08/2014 15:49:37    1642381

TheHermit - You did mention passion....something this Mayo team or supporters can not be judged to lack. Mayo only played well for 30mins on Sunday and had 14 men for most of the game. Both teams will rightly feel they can improve and offer more. The replay is very much a 50/50 game.

I would be of the thinking that our lads should show no respect to Kerry in the replay and just f'ing go for it.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 26/08/2014 15:49:43    1642382

JMK
County: Kerry
Posts: 263

1642342
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but is Hawk Eye installed in the Gaelic Grounds?? If there's another situation like Moran's point the last day there could be war if the wrong decision is made in an AI semi final. I know Hawk Eye is new but the idea was to have it for the big games, all the big games.

Hawkeye is only in Croke Park, Thurles is next but as we all know Hawkeye disallowed a perfectly good point last year in the A I minor semi final so there is for and against it . The amount of complaining over this fixture is getting annoying, there are lots of supporters in less successful counties who travel to any pitch in any county to watch their team in an A I semi final.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 26/08/2014 16:06:31    1642391

That's exactly what I said, the narrative of the second half was that Mayo gave it everything, read something for christ sake before you start reacting to it!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/08/2014 16:17:02    1642397