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I have been involved with coaching with this age group with my club since these boys were u8, that is far from the best 24 boys of 16 and 17 year olds in wexford, we will never be competitive at underage in wexford ,Nepotism is destroying wexford at underage, it was there when I was minor 20 years ago and is still alive and well today, two boys from the club of the senior coaching officer speaks volumes really,
tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 15:26:38 2414190 Link 2 |
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Loads of good work going on at underage, at club, county and school (365)........ we just need one or two coming through every year to senior. Underage results don't determine how good the senior team will be. WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 548 - 30/04/2022 15:29:49 2414191 Link 0 |
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Leinster MHC quarter-final foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2359 - 30/04/2022 15:56:31 2414197 Link 0 |
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incorrect, all the top hurling counties excluding wexford are competitive every year at underage we are not bringing boys through to senior because of this, we need to get the best boys in the county representing wexford at both minor and u20 and then we will have a serious senior team, winning a title may be a bonus but getting bet by kildare and laois is just shocking, I know mick Jacob done great work with the minors but his hands are tied when he has to pick two boys from the club of the county's senior coaching officer, Nepotism is holding wexford hurling back and the best 24 did not represent wexford today at minor grade tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 15:57:32 2414198 Link 1 |
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Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. The minors have been very good for the past few seasons - we were good vs Kilkenny and beat Dublin this year. Cillian Byrne scored 3 goals today and looks like a great talent. We aren't winning titles but are competitive at under age grades now with Kilkenny which is good progress Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 30/04/2022 15:58:16 2414199 Link 0 |
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So who should have been involved that wasn't? I couldn't make a county minor team when I was that age and there was always the knocker who knew 5 lads who should have been on the panel ahead of me........ I don't know Mick Jacob but I also don't believe for 1 moment that he would not have had the best 15 hurlers made available to him on the team today. If anything, the list of clubs prove how wide he cast the net. I also find it an odd claim that lads from a club of a coaching officer are being favoured. I look forward to the list of players who should have been on the panel. Bear in mind now that my father has also coached around this age group. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 30/04/2022 16:27:47 2414206 Link 0 |
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Just heard ex Offaly hurler Brian Carroll on the radio saying that this is a very good Laois minor team . I think they're coached by Derek McGrath. Very disappointing all the same to exit the championship at this stage after such a bright start v Dublin. HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 30/04/2022 16:39:10 2414209 Link 0 |
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no players from harriers shels martins barntown rapps gorey rathnure but two from marselstown??? I really wonder why?? we are so far off the mark at underage development in this county and yes Nepotism is and allways will hold wexford back two lenister minor titles since 1985 is the result our "paided " senior coaching officer is a spoofer tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 17:26:07 2414218 Link 0 |
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this was mentioned as a good minor team for wexford at minor level laois have a pick half what he have tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 17:28:12 2414220 Link 0 |
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no we are not
tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 17:29:09 2414221 Link 1 |
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sorry for the negatively but just breaks my heart when wexford lose we need to get our house in order and a proper development structure in place with genuine men involved tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/04/2022 18:51:40 2414233 Link 1 |
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I assume you were up in Portlaois ?
Wexian96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1 - 30/04/2022 19:21:09 2414237 Link 0 |
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Not knocking the young lads but saw them the day they layed kk and as I said before after a great start once kk got into they just looked so much better strikers than us but fair dues to the minors for giving it everything and no need to lose heart.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 30/04/2022 19:23:42 2414238 Link 0 |
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How can we beat dublin well, run kilkenny very close and then turn around and lose to laois??I guarantee dublin or kilkenny will beat laois well hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 30/04/2022 20:46:59 2414256 Link 0 |
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I would not overplay the numbers card. Cork have five times the number of hurlers Limerick have and even more still than Clare and they have lost in their last two All Ireland Final appearances to each of them.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4522 - 01/05/2022 07:59:36 2414280 Link 0 |
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You only need 15 or 26 good hurlers to make a team. Doesnt matter how many average ones there are in any particular county in any age group.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16832 - 01/05/2022 08:21:33 2414282 Link 0 |
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I did not ask you for a list of clubs. I asked you for these players who were not involved who you think should be involved You clearly must not have been at the match, the 2 Marshalstown subs did well when they came on. The chap with the white helmet I cant remember his name won the ball to set up the goal, and Quigley scored what everybody thought was going to be the winner. Look forward to seeing the names of the players who were not involved but should be. My father is looking forward to this list too. You are making some strong allegations about the integrity of the coaches involved so we expect you to back your counter argument up. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 01/05/2022 10:08:48 2414298 Link 0 |
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100% Viking. I would also add that even the best minor teams in general in any county maybe 2-3 tend to make it at senior. From this team, Cillian Byrne has huge potential. Simon Roche the other big prospect and he was getting completely sledged and dogged yesterday and his red card was frustration as much as anything.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 01/05/2022 10:21:06 2414303 Link 0 |
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It certainly noticias everything, but it helps to have a packed tournament operating at a high level. If I had a choice between 26 very good players or 4 or 5 very good clubs I'd take the clubs. That will improve everyone around them. On another note, we seem to struggle at minor and the magically become strong at under 20/21. When our players go away for fitzgibbon they come back much improved. This is something we badly need to address. I would note however the 2019 minor team seem to be plagued with back luck since. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3882 - 01/05/2022 10:39:01 2414314 Link 0 |
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Cannot for one second believe that the management didn't gather what they believe are the best players available to them. There were chaps on the extended panel from shels, Glynn, Martin's and gorey. Insulting to tie lads being on the panel with any individual. I've been involved with club teams and if any official had told me who to pick I'd have told them where to go very quickly ! HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 01/05/2022 12:24:21 2414335 Link 0 |