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2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Galway used 8 consecutive short puck outs on Saturday at one stage. All played long. Wexford won all 8 of these long balls after the puck out. Wexford retreating, therefore pulling Galway players down the pitch and leaving space in the Wexford forward line. The fact Wexford won all 8 of those balls after the puckouts, the balls into the forward line were a let down."
Think that's the point to the conceding the short puckout strategy. It leaves teams no space to knock over points from the middle of the field.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16746 - 19/04/2022 13:58:36    2411571

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "So if a team decided to train 7 nights a week, should the GAA pony up for this? Where is the point at which both managers say "no more"?
As a club player, we train 3 nights a week and most of us do some gym work, I don't believe any more training would make even the remotest bit of a difference. And for the lads based in Dublin, we don't go down to do the gym work and I'd be astounded if the players based in Dublin went down to lift weights in Wexford. And if they do, the question has to be asked as to why.
Back to the match, I watched it yesterday sober and it was an awful first half performance but in the second half our backs really stood up and were counted and got us back in to the game. It didn't occur to me at the time how bad the miss was when Galway had the 2-on-1, all he had to do was pass the ball in and it was game set and match. So while Galway blame the referee and turning the free (which was time wasting no doubt about it) the reason they didn't win the match was bad wides and spurning that goal chance."
It's not the intercounty players who decide how many training sessions or team meetings there are. So why are they being penalised for it?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16746 - 19/04/2022 14:00:32    2411573

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Replying To Viking66:  "You are missing the point. Intercounty management teams, and therefore the County Boards that appoint them, are expecting players to attend team events, be they training sessions, challenge matches, team talks, or actual competitive matches, far more than 4 times a week. It will get to a stage that poorer or self employed players, or lads with young families, won't be able to afford to play intercounty."
GPA are fighting the wrong fight, in my opinion. They should be saying four times together each week is enough. Lads could still do gym work or other fitness training in their own time on a fifth, sixth or even seventh day, at a time and place to suit them.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3002 - 19/04/2022 14:21:20    2411585

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Would laois be favourites tonight so with wexford missing 5 or 6 starters and 2 or 3 of our best players?

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 19/04/2022 14:31:18    2411590

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Anyone else feel that Fanning should be relieved of the pen taking duties? His record on them is not particularly good notwithstanding the one in the 2019 Leinster but even with that one, Eoin murphy was probably disappointed he didn't stop it. I don't think it's enough for a pen taker to just have a powerful shot which he obviously does. He generally just blazes it like he did on Saturday but without the necessary control of the ball. It's very rare that you see pens missed in hurling now as the odds are very much stacked against the goalkeeper and in a lot of cases, the goalies don't even move before the ball hits the net. Surely a forward like Rory O'Connor would be a better bet…I never had any confidence in fanning as he went up to take that pen on Saturday and in the end it proved a costly miss. To be honest, I don't have much confidence in him as a goalkeeper in general. Mark has given good service over the last 10 years or so but I think we should be looking to introduce a new goalie in the near future. James Lawlor has been no2 for a few years now but it seems like Fanning is just going to be selected automatically regardless of his form.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 276 - 19/04/2022 14:40:45    2411592

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Will Chin start Saturday do we think? I would be inclined to leave him on the bench and get more minutes in his legs this time maybe bring him on earlier . The bench plays a huge role now and our subs all made an impact .

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2022 14:46:27    2411594

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Replying To Yellow:  "Ridiculous the way Sheedy stated on the Sunday game that Chin took longer to take the free than Cooney. Cooney messed around and took about twenty or thirty seconds before he placed the ball on the ground also. There was almost a minute between the free being blown and the referee throwing in the ball.

Henry tried every trick in the book to wind down the clock in injury time by bringing on subs etc and I am delighted that his time wasting tactics ended up costing him the match."
I think you make valid points, but in general the ref decided to take action on something that's overlooked 99% of the time.
A ref with more experience would generally wave at the player to hurry up and add some additional seconds to the extra-time. He will learn from the experience and be better the next day, similar to both teams who I thought were well below par. Looking forward to weekend. Dublin will also be looking to bounce after a poor performance. Has the makings for a great battle..

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1479 - 19/04/2022 14:47:52    2411595

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Will Chin start Saturday do we think? I would be inclined to leave him on the bench and get more minutes in his legs this time maybe bring him on earlier . The bench plays a huge role now and our subs all made an impact ."
I'd imagine he will with Paudie Foley out. Could see a good bit of shuffling of positions to cover him.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 19/04/2022 15:08:38    2411605

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Really its win or bust for both teams on Saturday.

My thoughts coming into this was its crucial to win the home games.

Avoiding defeat with a nice fightback after such a poor opening half will hopefully get the momentum in our favour.

Dublin not great with the favorites tag and that showed on Saturday, however this weekend Wexford are strong favorites and simply must win the game regardless by how much. Win and we are into the All Ireland series end of story.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 19/04/2022 15:18:46    2411607

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's not the intercounty players who decide how many training sessions or team meetings there are. So why are they being penalised for it?"
So players can't ask why? If a manager decides to train 7 nights a week then the players should say yeah no bother?
A little common sense needs to be entered in to this debate and given the already run away costs and size of backroom teams, a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
I think pikeman96 has got this one spot on.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1915 - 19/04/2022 15:21:24    2411610

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Replying To hunting:  "Would laois be favourites tonight so with wexford missing 5 or 6 starters and 2 or 3 of our best players?"
Laois had very high hopes for their 2020 minor team and they flopped badly against I think Offaly . Would've confidently predicted a wexford win but for the injuries to key players. Playing Oisin pepper last Saturday could back fire badly. We are down probably 6 starters tonight which is a lot to deal with.

This u20 rule is madness when you consider most 20's were hurling college and league games earlier in the year within days of each other ( not just u20's) and nothing was done by the gaa authorities about that then. This rule has affected wexford Galway cork Limerick and Waterford u20 teams and would've probably Clare as well had they not been knocked out last week

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 19/04/2022 15:33:43    2411614

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "GPA are fighting the wrong fight, in my opinion. They should be saying four times together each week is enough. Lads could still do gym work or other fitness training in their own time on a fifth, sixth or even seventh day, at a time and place to suit them."
Who pays for their travelling to Ferns for this gym and fitness work? Especially if it's work they have to do to remain on the panel? In any case the GAA shouldn't have made the agreement in the 1st place if they weren't going to honour it. And another important thing that seems to be getting lost in this debate is the effect all this nonsense is having on our top young sportspeople countrywide when they choose which sport they intend to pursue as adults. If I was a top schoolboy rugby player and hurler who didn't know which to concentrate on as an adult the complete disregard the GAA are having for some of their own members, ie the intercounty players, might sway me towards rugby.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16746 - 19/04/2022 15:54:11    2411615

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Will Chin start Saturday do we think? I would be inclined to leave him on the bench and get more minutes in his legs this time maybe bring him on earlier . The bench plays a huge role now and our subs all made an impact ."
Chin is the essential ingredient in this team. He adds power and aerial ability. I would hope he has 70 minutes in him. If not perhaps introduced for the second half. With Chin, Rory and Mac playing at their best should build up a winning score. I also think Jacko should play instead of Mikey Dwyer. I would echo what other posters are saying regarding pushing up on their puckouts. Im afraid Kevin Foleys form has dipped alarmingly so i would start Dunbar in the half forward line and move Mogie to midfield. Im reasonably confident about this game but we must use our heads along with our hurls.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 19/04/2022 16:04:31    2411620

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Replying To countyman2022:  "I'd imagine he will with Paudie Foley out. Could see a good bit of shuffling of positions to cover him."
Is Paudie definitely out? Possibly Jacko could come straight into the half back line?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2022 16:28:38    2411627

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Radio just said paudie foley xray is clear as is Liam og but r Higgins and p Morris getting knee surgery. Morris back in 3 weeks, Higgins out for 4 months.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 19/04/2022 17:41:57    2411644

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So far so bad in the U20 match

Half time and losing by two points to Laois

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 19/04/2022 20:07:04    2411659

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Anyone watching the U20's. Very poor performance in the first half. Decision making is shocking on the ball. If the Kod by Laois after being beat by Kildare last year, there has to be a serious look into the level of coaching going on in the county

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 19/04/2022 20:09:38    2411660

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Good win for the u20's by a point but made hard work of it. Missed great goal chances in each half. Will need to be more clinical if they're to progress. Anyone know who else they were missing? I know that Pepper, Lawlor and Scallan were all absent but I read somewhere that they had 6/7 out.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 276 - 19/04/2022 20:59:52    2411664

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Good win for the u20s watched it on tg4 youtube. Laois had some very good hurlers. We took on a few shots from poor angles on the sidelines which went wide but the lads hurled well. Corey Byrne Dunbar looked sharp as did AJ Redmond. All the lads improved as the game went on. Created a couple of good goal chances too which we will need to be taking in 2 weeks. Will any of the injured lads be back for the Dublin game?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16746 - 19/04/2022 21:05:59    2411665

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Had very high hopes for that U20 team but they won't win anything this year. The skill levels are decent but there isn't any gameplan from what I seen. Which is a shame because our forwards look decent with pace. It was a very average performance tonight against a average side. Play like that again and Dublin will hammer them.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 19/04/2022 21:06:22    2411666

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