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2022 Wexford Intercounty Hurling

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Replying To Onfor15:  "He's supporting the GPA in their stupid carry on."
Stupid carry on? Is this lad for real? Fighting to have all costs covered is now stupid? Why don't we ask county teams to play with no expenses at all sure.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 19/04/2022 09:43:52    2411480

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Stupid carry on? Is this lad for real? Fighting to have all costs covered is now stupid? Why don't we ask county teams to play with no expenses at all sure."
Spot on Countyman. Geese don't lay ordinary eggs if you don't feed them. Never mind golden 1s. There are lads on this who just don't realise the time and expense players put into playing. If they want to tackle overtraining they should penalise the causes of the disease not the victims.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 09:57:19    2411481

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Game of two halves from us on Saturday . We looked totally abject at times in the first half. Possibly a hangover and lack of confidence following the Waterford debacle . We gave them far too much space firstly giving them way too much time to deliver the ball in from the backs and midfield area and left our backs under serious pressure . Why are we dropping so far back for puck outs? As regards the backs thought Hanlon , Foley and Reck were very good . Donohoe grew into the game after a poor start. Kevin Foleys form is a worry . Perhaps he might be better coming on as an impact sub for the Dublin game? Thought we were really dominated around the middle third and our half forward line for long periods . McGuckin is a good young chap but still has lots to work on. O Foley did okay In patches and done enough to keep his place . Thought Mac was outstanding and fought for every ball even when he was isolated . Grealish really gave Rory a hard time. We could surely have let Rory out around midfield to let him free of Grealish and let him back into the game. Dwyer was very quiet and I'd fancy Dunbar to start ahead of him the next day . Overall decent result if not performance. This Dublin game is now huge . Win and we have a great chance of a Leinster final and have one foot through to the All Ireland series. Lose and we could be facing an early exit

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2022 10:01:57    2411483

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What do ye think on our puck out strategy for opposition puck out? For me it's kamikaze hurling and causing us unbelievable problems. Why are players dropping back to the 45 caused unreal problems on Saturday particularly in the first half same against Waterford

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 19/04/2022 10:08:15    2411484

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Stupid carry on? Is this lad for real? Fighting to have all costs covered is now stupid? Why don't we ask county teams to play with no expenses at all sure."
I totally agree. The players have every right to fight for a better deal. What i don't understand is why the media ban? How is not giving interviews by Darragh Egan and the Wexford players going to help solve anything? The media are not responsible for the dispute. I note that most other managers seem to have no problem talking to the sports media and that includes Bonner,Cahill, Kiely and Kingston.players were also interviewed following their respective matches. I'm all for the players getting a fair deal but a media ban? madness.

Samson55 (Wexford) - Posts: 103 - 19/04/2022 10:23:45    2411489

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Replying To Viking66:  "I wouldn't count on it. Besides, if we beat Dublin why couldn't we beat Kilkenny too?"
I agree.

We are none the wiser as to who'll finish where.

We should be trying to win all our games, but would be hard to beat kk twice.

We traditionally raise our game for them.

We could have a scenario where we are both through by then depending on results elsewhere.

For now we need to focus on Dublin.

Laois will be targeting us too so we'd be mad to get ahead of ourselves.

Especially after the first half on Saturday.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3863 - 19/04/2022 10:32:24    2411490

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Replying To Samson55:  "I totally agree. The players have every right to fight for a better deal. What i don't understand is why the media ban? How is not giving interviews by Darragh Egan and the Wexford players going to help solve anything? The media are not responsible for the dispute. I note that most other managers seem to have no problem talking to the sports media and that includes Bonner,Cahill, Kiely and Kingston.players were also interviewed following their respective matches. I'm all for the players getting a fair deal but a media ban? madness."
Fair point too. I'd say the GAA top brass couldnt care less whether the players and managers talk to the press or not. They certainly aren't going to change their position because of it. Players need to get a fair deal though and maybe they haven't really any other option to highlight this other than the media ban. The only other alternative would be some sort of boycott of the actual games and that would be even worse for us supporters.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 10:35:59    2411491

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "What do ye think on our puck out strategy for opposition puck out? For me it's kamikaze hurling and causing us unbelievable problems. Why are players dropping back to the 45 caused unreal problems on Saturday particularly in the first half same against Waterford"
Can't understand it either. We are giving teams a free puck into the danger area right in front of the goal . Galway let us do it at times too.

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2022 10:42:03    2411493

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Replying To Viking66:  "Spot on Countyman. Geese don't lay ordinary eggs if you don't feed them. Never mind golden 1s. There are lads on this who just don't realise the time and expense players put into playing. If they want to tackle overtraining they should penalise the causes of the disease not the victims."
The GAA are covering expenses for 4 sessions per week.

The GPA are looking for it to be unlimited (madness)

It's not like the county players are being asked to do it all for nothing as countyman is suggesting.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 19/04/2022 11:08:30    2411505

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "What do ye think on our puck out strategy for opposition puck out? For me it's kamikaze hurling and causing us unbelievable problems. Why are players dropping back to the 45 caused unreal problems on Saturday particularly in the first half same against Waterford"
You won't find too many who would defend the strategy or even explain what we're trying to get out of it. Last 2 games have shown it's not working to our benefit anyway.

Good luck to the u20's this evening. Combination of injuries and unavailability might just be too much to overcome this evening. Hope I'm wrong

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 555 - 19/04/2022 11:11:01    2411507

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I agree.

We are none the wiser as to who'll finish where.

We should be trying to win all our games, but would be hard to beat kk twice.

We traditionally raise our game for them.

We could have a scenario where we are both through by then depending on results elsewhere.

For now we need to focus on Dublin.

Laois will be targeting us too so we'd be mad to get ahead of ourselves.

Especially after the first half on Saturday."
If we play like we did the 1st half last weekend against Laois or Westmeath they could be out of sight by halftime.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 11:14:01    2411510

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The GAA are covering expenses for 4 sessions per week.

The GPA are looking for it to be unlimited (madness)

It's not like the county players are being asked to do it all for nothing as countyman is suggesting."
The players just want the pre-covid agreement reinstalled.

They had agreeded to the reduction for Covid only.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 547 - 19/04/2022 11:16:44    2411511

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The GAA are covering expenses for 4 sessions per week.

The GPA are looking for it to be unlimited (madness)

It's not like the county players are being asked to do it all for nothing as countyman is suggesting."
You are missing the point. Intercounty management teams, and therefore the County Boards that appoint them, are expecting players to attend team events, be they training sessions, challenge matches, team talks, or actual competitive matches, far more than 4 times a week. It will get to a stage that poorer or self employed players, or lads with young families, won't be able to afford to play intercounty.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 11:18:12    2411512

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "You won't find too many who would defend the strategy or even explain what we're trying to get out of it. Last 2 games have shown it's not working to our benefit anyway.

Good luck to the u20's this evening. Combination of injuries and unavailability might just be too much to overcome this evening. Hope I'm wrong"
Laois have a good team this year apparently. It will be a tough game. Good luck to the lads tonight!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 11:19:17    2411513

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Replying To WEX98:  "The players just want the pre-covid agreement reinstalled.

They had agreeded to the reduction for Covid only."
Honourable people honour their agreements.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 19/04/2022 11:24:57    2411517

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Replying To Onfor15:  "The GAA are covering expenses for 4 sessions per week.

The GPA are looking for it to be unlimited (madness)

It's not like the county players are being asked to do it all for nothing as countyman is suggesting."
The lads were collectively together 5 nights a week until Feb between pitch/gym. Should they have to pay the expenses for the 5th night? The fuel costs, meals and any other costs? I don't think its madness considering the players are the profit winners for the GAA?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 19/04/2022 12:02:36    2411530

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "What do ye think on our puck out strategy for opposition puck out? For me it's kamikaze hurling and causing us unbelievable problems. Why are players dropping back to the 45 caused unreal problems on Saturday particularly in the first half same against Waterford"
Galway used 8 consecutive short puck outs on Saturday at one stage. All played long. Wexford won all 8 of these long balls after the puck out. Wexford retreating, therefore pulling Galway players down the pitch and leaving space in the Wexford forward line. The fact Wexford won all 8 of those balls after the puckouts, the balls into the forward line were a let down.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 19/04/2022 12:05:29    2411535

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Best of luck to the U-20's tonight.
Plenty of talent in that squad.
They are well capable of performing and getting the win against Laois.

Great to see the game being streamed on Spórt TG4 YouTube (7.30pm).

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 19/04/2022 13:21:26    2411558

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So if a team decided to train 7 nights a week, should the GAA pony up for this? Where is the point at which both managers say "no more"?
As a club player, we train 3 nights a week and most of us do some gym work, I don't believe any more training would make even the remotest bit of a difference. And for the lads based in Dublin, we don't go down to do the gym work and I'd be astounded if the players based in Dublin went down to lift weights in Wexford. And if they do, the question has to be asked as to why.
Back to the match, I watched it yesterday sober and it was an awful first half performance but in the second half our backs really stood up and were counted and got us back in to the game. It didn't occur to me at the time how bad the miss was when Galway had the 2-on-1, all he had to do was pass the ball in and it was game set and match. So while Galway blame the referee and turning the free (which was time wasting no doubt about it) the reason they didn't win the match was bad wides and spurning that goal chance.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1912 - 19/04/2022 13:31:56    2411560

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Ridiculous the way Sheedy stated on the Sunday game that Chin took longer to take the free than Cooney. Cooney messed around and took about twenty or thirty seconds before he placed the ball on the ground also. There was almost a minute between the free being blown and the referee throwing in the ball.

Henry tried every trick in the book to wind down the clock in injury time by bringing on subs etc and I am delighted that his time wasting tactics ended up costing him the match.

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 19/04/2022 13:39:58    2411566

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