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No reason why all 3 unfinished championships can't be finished at the start of next season . Important to have championship winners for the year. Often happened in the past I believe. But I agree that clarity is needed now and the ccc should call it that they will not fix any more club games this year and will finish the competitions at the start of new year. County still on and the players need clarity now not next week imo.

jack99 (Dublin) - Posts: 16 - 06/10/2020 21:58:10    2296161

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Replying To jack99:  "No reason why all 3 unfinished championships can't be finished at the start of next season . Important to have championship winners for the year. Often happened in the past I believe. But I agree that clarity is needed now and the ccc should call it that they will not fix any more club games this year and will finish the competitions at the start of new year. County still on and the players need clarity now not next week imo."
while i agree the problem here is we havent a clue what the national situation will be like next february or march. it could be worse then it is now. do we have the six teams training away during winter for semis/finals that there is a good chance wont happen? croke park need to give guidance to the county boards here. totally agree that clarity is a matter of urgency. doubt it will be though as players lives rarely comes into these officials heads.

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 07/10/2020 10:06:50    2296193

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Replying To jack99:  "No reason why all 3 unfinished championships can't be finished at the start of next season . Important to have championship winners for the year. Often happened in the past I believe. But I agree that clarity is needed now and the ccc should call it that they will not fix any more club games this year and will finish the competitions at the start of new year. County still on and the players need clarity now not next week imo."
I was looking at the records on the Longford website and the last time a Senior Championship was not completed in its own year was 1911 when the final games rolled into 1912 due to a dispute in one of the semi-finals. That meant no competition for 1912 itself though. The only other time I can see a delay to a different year in a major final in Longford was Leader Cup. The 1937 Leader Cup rolled into 1938 (leading to no 1938 Leader Cup competition), while 1965 & 1966 Leader Cup finals were both played in 1967 (leading to no 1967 Leader Cup). The 2018 Leader Cup just didn't happen because of Mullinalaghtas involvement in club championship, and even though there was only the final to play, it was never refixed for 2019 or 2020. So refixing in a new year is a rare occurrence, especially in Senior Championship, and whenever it did happen, it led to no new competition in the year refixed for. Different times, different outcomes, but lads won't be able to keep training on a possibility of a Q1 restart. Odds are not in favour of a restart as things stand.

arcadia (Longford) - Posts: 165 - 07/10/2020 12:27:10    2296227

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Correction to above... I forgot to include the 1986 Leader Cup final which was played in 1987. I believe that is the last time a major final in Longford was played in a different year. Fr. Manning Gaels won the 1986 Leader Cup in March 1987 and then had the unique distinction of winning two Leader Cups in same year when they retained the title in August 1987.

arcadia (Longford) - Posts: 165 - 07/10/2020 12:33:42    2296228

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Replying To arcadia:  "Thanks CCCC committee member with axe to grind"
Dont agree with such a statement on here. ccc cant control covid. HSE directed what teams could not play because of contacts or cases, so whats your point? What ccc member has an axe to grind? What game should of been played that wasn't?

Longfordgaamad (Longford) - Posts: 4 - 07/10/2020 12:45:52    2296232

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People thinking the County Board could play two championships in one year. They struggle to get one played on time. After this evenings news on inter county games this years club season in Longford is a write off. It's unfortunate for Killoe, Slashers, St.Columbas and Mostrim.

Ward30 (Longford) - Posts: 4 - 08/10/2020 21:19:50    2296477

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Replying To Longfordgaamad:  "Dont agree with such a statement on here. ccc cant control covid. HSE directed what teams could not play because of contacts or cases, so whats your point? What ccc member has an axe to grind? What game should of been played that wasn't?"
Apologies that should have read Hearing Committee, not CCCC Committee. It was a response to the earlier comment from a different poster inferring that a specific club was responsible for the fact that the championship hasn't been played. If the ban nonsense had not been advanced by certain individual(s) on the Hearing Committee, the County Final would have been on 27th September, so anyone blaming the recent Covid contact issue need bear that in mind. I have no issue with the fixtures committee - their task has been unenviable over past weeks and I agree with their decision to play games mid-week to get it all done. Alas they just ran out of time in the end.

arcadia (Longford) - Posts: 165 - 09/10/2020 12:03:06    2296542

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Replying To arcadia:  "Apologies that should have read Hearing Committee, not CCCC Committee. It was a response to the earlier comment from a different poster inferring that a specific club was responsible for the fact that the championship hasn't been played. If the ban nonsense had not been advanced by certain individual(s) on the Hearing Committee, the County Final would have been on 27th September, so anyone blaming the recent Covid contact issue need bear that in mind. I have no issue with the fixtures committee - their task has been unenviable over past weeks and I agree with their decision to play games mid-week to get it all done. Alas they just ran out of time in the end."
Fair enough.. that makes more sense

Longfordgaamad (Longford) - Posts: 4 - 09/10/2020 12:34:47    2296552

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https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/sport/602604/powerful-gaa-committee-unsure-why-longford-u16-championship-continued-as-killoe-objection-is-successful.html

So...

Having been rapped on the knuckles once at national level over the 48-week suspension, Longford County Board get pulled up again at national level over the original Killoe complaint over the under-16 championship and lose that battle too. For this we ended up with a bucketload of negative publicity and last year's championships not being completed.

Heck of a job, lads. Well done to all concerned.

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 116 - 18/01/2021 08:50:22    2327873

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Anyone think the remaining senior championship games from 2020 will be played? The Intermediate final will prob be played as soon as action resumes (maybe with U14 final which is the last of the underage A finals waiting to be done), but can't see them playing anything else from 2020 given how far stuff is getting pushed now. National league likely pushed back at least a month, All Ireland series heading into August potentially, then into Club action for 2021 after that. Reckon the window for the 2020 stuff has come and gone.

arcadia (Longford) - Posts: 165 - 19/01/2021 18:29:38    2328125

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Replying To arcadia:  "Anyone think the remaining senior championship games from 2020 will be played? The Intermediate final will prob be played as soon as action resumes (maybe with U14 final which is the last of the underage A finals waiting to be done), but can't see them playing anything else from 2020 given how far stuff is getting pushed now. National league likely pushed back at least a month, All Ireland series heading into August potentially, then into Club action for 2021 after that. Reckon the window for the 2020 stuff has come and gone."
According to the Leader the Longford club championship to start in August. Maybe if they dilute the league and Leader Cup down they might get this year's senior championship finished.

Ward30 (Longford) - Posts: 4 - 20/01/2021 19:37:56    2328254

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i think the county board need to make a call and just call off 2020. between the county season and the 2021 season and who knows what further restrictions will happen later in the year there just wont be time. no reason i can think of not playing the intermediate final during the county season as dont think there are any players involved with this years set up could be wrong though

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 22/01/2021 08:59:46    2328433

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Replying To slasher9:  "i think the county board need to make a call and just call off 2020. between the county season and the 2021 season and who knows what further restrictions will happen later in the year there just wont be time. no reason i can think of not playing the intermediate final during the county season as dont think there are any players involved with this years set up could be wrong though"
If the four senior semi-finalists were to pull their players from the county panel the 2020 Senior Championship could go ahead as well of course. Lord knows Killoe might feel justified in doing it after being on the receiving end of a vendetta from CB members.

TurnipAyter (Longford) - Posts: 116 - 22/01/2021 11:29:56    2328475

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Replying To TurnipAyter:  "If the four senior semi-finalists were to pull their players from the county panel the 2020 Senior Championship could go ahead as well of course. Lord knows Killoe might feel justified in doing it after being on the receiving end of a vendetta from CB members."
true the players on the four teams could do that but they wont. killoe players didnt pull off a few months ago after being banned in the wrong so why would they now

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 22/01/2021 16:01:09    2328533

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Given where we are right now, it is completely nuts to contemplate any GAA action or movement of squads around the country this side of June/July. No country serious about the eradication of the virus so that we have a shot at saving the year from Summer onwards would contemplate running any risk of community transmission via return of GAA activity pre Summer. It doesn't matter how careful players may try to be, it is beyond crazy to contemplate it.

arcadia (Longford) - Posts: 165 - 27/01/2021 12:08:13    2329130

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Replying To arcadia:  "Given where we are right now, it is completely nuts to contemplate any GAA action or movement of squads around the country this side of June/July. No country serious about the eradication of the virus so that we have a shot at saving the year from Summer onwards would contemplate running any risk of community transmission via return of GAA activity pre Summer. It doesn't matter how careful players may try to be, it is beyond crazy to contemplate it."
i am finding it hard to see the national leagues going ahead in march all right which will obviously have knock on effects for championship and then clubs. things seem to be in a worse position this year then last even with vaccines here. very disheartening.

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 34 - 31/01/2021 13:02:33    2329815

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