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See Malachy has taken the Glen (Watty Grahams) job up in Derry. They have a lot of potential having won 3 Ulster minor titles in a row (open to correction here. Lost the senior final last year when the ref blew the whistle with the ball in mid air for the equalising point. Was afraid he would be picked up by a rival County team in need, wish him well.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 803 - 25/10/2020 12:48:49    2301122

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "First thing to say is that it was a group of committed players- led by the Latton man- who pushed the CB to appoint MOR. Doubtful they would have made that call themselves at the time. But now, left to their own devices they come up with Banty version 2.0

Much has been said about his achievements the last time out, as evidence of his suitability for the job now. To be fair, those should be acknowledged. He lost 2 ulsters, lost a QF in 2007 and won a Div 3 league equivalent in 05. (48 other teams have managed to lose quarter finals since.)

But it would be wrong to judge a managers record solely on the trophy haul. There were many memorable moments along the way that should be recognised. In no particular order, my favourites were:
Playing McManus as a wing back

Allowing a very young Colin Walshe to get roasted in 2010 Ulster final

Losing a qualifier to wexford scoring 6 points in total

Pushing for the the 2010 qualifier against Kildare to be played in Croke Park and then collapsing on the pitch

Getting caught cold by Fermanagh in 08

Getting relegated twice

Freezing on the line for the last 10 mins against Kerry in 07- taking off d mone, moving gollogly off t o se, taking in paul meegan

Turning a Div3 title into a homecoming festival in the Fiddlers

Bringing Kerry and Cork to Scotstown for league matches and losing every time. Then getting whipped in pairc ui rinn

Decluttering Cloghan by moving the gym equipment to Dunganny for storage

Humiliating a young goalkeeper


All part of the experience. Here we go again"
You were warned

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 717 - 31/10/2020 20:02:29    2303563

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "You were warned"
Banty - bringing Monaghan from Division 4 to division 1
Banty - bringing pride back to Monaghan

Malachy - got plenty of mileage money
Malachy - treated Tommy Freeman very poorly, same as Jap
Malachy - lost to Fermanagh & Down all Div 3 teams
Malachy - lose to Cavan last year
Malachy - no intercounty team came looking for him, that tells a story itself

patmouse (Monaghan) - Posts: 46 - 03/11/2020 10:01:12    2304694

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Replying To patmouse:  "Banty - bringing Monaghan from Division 4 to division 1
Banty - bringing pride back to Monaghan

Malachy - got plenty of mileage money
Malachy - treated Tommy Freeman very poorly, same as Jap
Malachy - lost to Fermanagh & Down all Div 3 teams
Malachy - lose to Cavan last year
Malachy - no intercounty team came looking for him, that tells a story itself"
Banty in 2005 wins Division 2 title. This whole ***** about Division 4 to division 1 is nonsense, I have heard it time and time again by the banty, it's used to boost his reputation.
In 2005 Monaghan played in Division 2A won promotion and the Division 2 title.
2006 Monaghan relegated from division 1A to 2A
2007 Monaghan top 2A.
2008 League is restructured to Division 1 to 4. Monaghan played Division 2
2009 Monaghan gain promotion to Division 1 and get well beaten by Cork in the final.
2010 manage to stay up in Division 1 after having a better scoring difference than Derry and Tyrone.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1849 - 03/11/2020 10:37:47    2304710

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Banty in 2005 wins Division 2 title. This whole ***** about Division 4 to division 1 is nonsense, I have heard it time and time again by the banty, it's used to boost his reputation.
In 2005 Monaghan played in Division 2A won promotion and the Division 2 title.
2006 Monaghan relegated from division 1A to 2A
2007 Monaghan top 2A.
2008 League is restructured to Division 1 to 4. Monaghan played Division 2
2009 Monaghan gain promotion to Division 1 and get well beaten by Cork in the final.
2010 manage to stay up in Division 1 after having a better scoring difference than Derry and Tyrone."
Pat mouse is not a farney man - had another alias in 2019 but was obviously banned. pretending to be a Monaghan supporter then too.
Loves to talk to his fellow county men about winding up the Monaghan lads. Best to ignore.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 828 - 03/11/2020 11:38:16    2304742

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Banty in 2005 wins Division 2 title. This whole ***** about Division 4 to division 1 is nonsense, I have heard it time and time again by the banty, it's used to boost his reputation.
In 2005 Monaghan played in Division 2A won promotion and the Division 2 title.
2006 Monaghan relegated from division 1A to 2A
2007 Monaghan top 2A.
2008 League is restructured to Division 1 to 4. Monaghan played Division 2
2009 Monaghan gain promotion to Division 1 and get well beaten by Cork in the final.
2010 manage to stay up in Division 1 after having a better scoring difference than Derry and Tyrone."
2010...wild celebrations at the final whistle having been beaten by Kerry...another of Bantys fine moments....

moodoo (Monaghan) - Posts: 387 - 03/11/2020 12:02:06    2304757

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Banty clearly has huge influence over the county board otherwise he would never have got the job back so looks like we are struck with him. Hard to know what the solution is outside of bringing in an no 2 who isn't a yes man and who can deal with the team tactics etc while banty does his usual old BS with the media. Be interesting to see if players like Conor mcmanus Darren Hughes decide to play on after the fiasco on Saturday. McManus had a great first half but he might as well have left clones at half time given the lack of play he saw in the second half. He cut a v frustrated figure kicking those wides at the end particularly the missed free which beggan should have taken.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1496 - 03/11/2020 13:55:03    2304814

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Banty in 2005 wins Division 2 title. This whole ***** about Division 4 to division 1 is nonsense, I have heard it time and time again by the banty, it's used to boost his reputation.
In 2005 Monaghan played in Division 2A won promotion and the Division 2 title.
2006 Monaghan relegated from division 1A to 2A
2007 Monaghan top 2A.
2008 League is restructured to Division 1 to 4. Monaghan played Division 2
2009 Monaghan gain promotion to Division 1 and get well beaten by Cork in the final.
2010 manage to stay up in Division 1 after having a better scoring difference than Derry and Tyrone."
Just to clarify 2005 NFL. It may have been called Division 2 but there was Div 1A and 1B that year so it was the equivalent of Div 3 as there were 16 teams playing in a superior competition.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 470 - 03/11/2020 14:47:30    2304852

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Replying To moodoo:  "2010...wild celebrations at the final whistle having been beaten by Kerry...another of Bantys fine moments...."
Remember it well the wild celebrations on the sideline after being beaten. Very embarrassing, Kerry supporters looking on in bemusement.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1849 - 03/11/2020 16:09:27    2304872

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I think a lot of us celebrated that day when we managed to stay in Div 1 for the 2011 season. I am not a huge fan of Banty but he was happy that day to stay up, as were we all that travelled. A decent consolation prize.

Now trying and failing to defend a lead for 35 mins - that was embarassing for him and the rest of us !!

Tim_NicebutDim (Monaghan) - Posts: 328 - 03/11/2020 17:39:44    2304900

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