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New season almost upon us .
Assume its starting the weekend of 26th June 2 weeks hurling first .
Do we anticipate anyone coming out of the pack or just same sort of championship shadow boxing until the prelims 1/4 finals.
Hard to look past st Martins even losing few players to travelling they seem to have better stremgh n depth . Have they matured to a stage where they dont shoot themselves in the foot .
Next best st annes , naomh eanna either of them have the potential . Maybe lack marquee forward . Mac is good but needs the right ball the better the opposition the less opportunities he ll get .
Love to see Liam og and dee o keefe get a senior county medal . Graet club and county men . Coming to the twilight wont get many more chances have good blend of youth and experience
Harriers i think are couple players short rely on chin too much no better man ti rely on but needs few more to step up and 2nd team relegated last year anyone stepping up would be huge leap .
Ur 2nd team needs to be at least intr A to help bridge that gap if stepping up .
Rathnure could cause few surprises along the way have some good hurlers might lack few backs.
Shels have potential but maybe lack belief need bit luck and things to fall into place.
Ferns steady but not winners imo .
Rapps cbeg who knows 1/4 fiinslistvat best
Glynn lack belief and despite being do competitive in Premier underage seem to only produce average senior club players bit of an enigma really .
Oulart to survive will rely on winning either prelim 1/4 final or relegation final hoping to improve over next few years
Oylgate hard to know if injuries to key players don't clear up they might struggle. Potential semi finalists most likely 1/4 final their potential .
Either way .
1st couple rounds will set the tone might be few decent games but after first 2 rounds every other team will be cruising until prelims abd knockout stages . Just trying to avoid beingbon bottom 2 at best .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 17/06/2025 12:52:01
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It's starting the weekend commencing Friday June 27th all right. Fixtures were issued last night.
Spent some time today looking at the fixtures myself, but to be honest, hard to get excited about this stage of the championship as long as we have what I still consider to be a sham of a system with everybody going through anyway.
As somebody pointed out last year - we started with 30 teams across the grades, we play 150 matches, and we still have 30 teams involved. I seriously think it's ridiculous.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2956 - 17/06/2025 22:57:02
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Replying To Formertownie: "New season almost upon us .
Assume its starting the weekend of 26th June 2 weeks hurling first .
Do we anticipate anyone coming out of the pack or just same sort of championship shadow boxing until the prelims 1/4 finals.
Hard to look past st Martins even losing few players to travelling they seem to have better stremgh n depth . Have they matured to a stage where they dont shoot themselves in the foot .
Next best st annes , naomh eanna either of them have the potential . Maybe lack marquee forward . Mac is good but needs the right ball the better the opposition the less opportunities he ll get .
Love to see Liam og and dee o keefe get a senior county medal . Graet club and county men . Coming to the twilight wont get many more chances have good blend of youth and experience
Harriers i think are couple players short rely on chin too much no better man ti rely on but needs few more to step up and 2nd team relegated last year anyone stepping up would be huge leap .
Ur 2nd team needs to be at least intr A to help bridge that gap if stepping up .
Rathnure could cause few surprises along the way have some good hurlers might lack few backs.
Shels have potential but maybe lack belief need bit luck and things to fall into place.
Ferns steady but not winners imo .
Rapps cbeg who knows 1/4 fiinslistvat best
Glynn lack belief and despite being do competitive in Premier underage seem to only produce average senior club players bit of an enigma really .
Oulart to survive will rely on winning either prelim 1/4 final or relegation final hoping to improve over next few years
Oylgate hard to know if injuries to key players don't clear up they might struggle. Potential semi finalists most likely 1/4 final their potential .
Either way .
1st couple rounds will set the tone might be few decent games but after first 2 rounds every other team will be cruising until prelims abd knockout stages . Just trying to avoid beingbon bottom 2 at best ." A reasonable synopsis of where teams are at.
Martin's definitely out in front but also beatable. They're the most likely to do something at national level.
Anne's for me are a fairly clear second and I agree. I think everyone in Wexford would love to see the two lads win a senior.
I'd have shells and gorey together, yet the harriers should have beaten both last year.
Ferns dependable as you say.
I agree with you on Rathnure as well. They're not going to make it easy for anybody and seem to be getting their house in order across the board which is good for Wexford.
My own club.... I'd be expecting 1/4 at least but we're a bit like the county. Capable of a lot but struggle to produce consistently. I think we can do something this year.
I'm very much looking forward to it now.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3739 - 18/06/2025 08:00:15
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I don't like the current format but what also annoys me is how they've set out the fixtures
Just happened to reading something last year from Alan Aherne about how they do the fixtures in Kilkenny and while I understand the need to accommodate Clubber, I still think we can accommodate streamed games without having games clashing against each other
Yes, you can't really play Senior on Sunday the first week as you don't want second teams playing beside their first teams in the very first week and yes, the All-Ireland Semi-Finals give us less room to manoeuvre in the second week. But having games clashing against each other is far from ideal, Aherne made the point that everything should revolve around the Senior games each week and that someone should be able to attend all six Senior games if they so wish
Back in 2022, there was a bit of creativity the day of the AI Final when games were scheduled for 11AM and 12:30PM on a Sunday morning. I understand setting fixtures is in all likelihood very difficult but too many games are clashing right now and it feels like we're shooting ourselves in the foot
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 573 - 18/06/2025 09:34:16
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I don't like the current format but what also annoys me is how they've set out the fixtures
Just happened to reading something last year from Alan Aherne about how they do the fixtures in Kilkenny and while I understand the need to accommodate Clubber, I still think we can accommodate streamed games without having games clashing against each other
Yes, you can't really play Senior on Sunday the first week as you don't want second teams playing beside their first teams in the very first week and yes, the All-Ireland Semi-Finals give us less room to manoeuvre in the second week. But having games clashing against each other is far from ideal, Aherne made the point that everything should revolve around the Senior games each week and that someone should be able to attend all six Senior games if they so wish
Back in 2022, there was a bit of creativity the day of the AI Final when games were scheduled for 11AM and 12:30PM on a Sunday morning. I understand setting fixtures is in all likelihood very difficult but too many games are clashing right now and it feels like we're shooting ourselves in the foot" Fair shout. I'd like to be in bellfield and the park at the one time next week to be honest.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3739 - 18/06/2025 10:19:37
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Fair shout. I'd like to be in bellfield and the park at the one time next week to be honest." Record one on clubberTV
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16339 - 18/06/2025 11:18:15
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Replying To Viking66: "Record one on clubberTV" Sure but that still doesn't really justify having the games on at the same time
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 573 - 18/06/2025 12:39:55
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How many people would attend all 6 senior games?
And then, if you are to go to all 6 games how are you not accommodating your 2nd string? Does there need to be 2+ hours gap before the seconds can play?
I would say setting fixtures is hard enough without adding another constraint for a small pool of die-hards.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1873 - 18/06/2025 12:43:08
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Does anyone know when Clubber will announce their fixtures?
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1873 - 18/06/2025 12:57:21
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I don't like the current format but what also annoys me is how they've set out the fixtures
Just happened to reading something last year from Alan Aherne about how they do the fixtures in Kilkenny and while I understand the need to accommodate Clubber, I still think we can accommodate streamed games without having games clashing against each other
Yes, you can't really play Senior on Sunday the first week as you don't want second teams playing beside their first teams in the very first week and yes, the All-Ireland Semi-Finals give us less room to manoeuvre in the second week. But having games clashing against each other is far from ideal, Aherne made the point that everything should revolve around the Senior games each week and that someone should be able to attend all six Senior games if they so wish
Back in 2022, there was a bit of creativity the day of the AI Final when games were scheduled for 11AM and 12:30PM on a Sunday morning. I understand setting fixtures is in all likelihood very difficult but too many games are clashing right now and it feels like we're shooting ourselves in the foot" I think you've answered your own arguments there.
In Week 1, every club's first team has to play before their second team can play. Means that all the senior & Intermediate matches have to be on the Friday evening or the Saturday. In Week 2, nobody would want to play at the "normal" times on the Sunday afternoon, because the All-Ireland semi-finals will be on TV.
I actually remember that piece about Kilkenny fixtures. Will see later if I can find a link for it. Thing is, it told how they had three different matches at three different venues on a Saturday at something like 2 p.m., 4 p.m. and 6 p.m., and then did the same again at three different venues on the Sunday at 12 noon, 2 p.m., and 4 p.m.
As StoreysTash says above, there are very few diehards who'd actually go to all six senior matches, particularly if there's not even a double-header involved. I honestly couldn't see too many going to let's say Bellefield for a match at 2 p.m., before heading on to Oylegate for another at 4 or 4.30, and then Wexford Park for a third match at 6 or 6.30. And they're probably the three senior venues that are closest and therefore handiest to each other.
Also the consideration that 2 p.m. on a Saturday isn't a great time for most people for a match. Would you put out "ordinary" supporters of a club by fixing that club to play at that time anyway, just to accommodate the small number of diehards who'd go to other matches at other venues that day too?
Have long thought that being on the fixtures committee must be the worst job out there. Even worse than refereeing! Have often dealt with them on the club's behalf, and I know there are all sorts of considerations behind all sets of fixtures, from weddings to Patrons and everything in between. They don't just pluck dates, venues and times out of the air.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2956 - 18/06/2025 15:14:17
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