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Replying To allstar2k10: "Gerry smith very impressive again tonight him and Mcveety linked up in the right way could add a quick attack.... Some blows to Cavan as 5 Ramor players turned down the offer to play which would of added something to this Cavan team.. Anyone wondering what new talent will be introduced" Lots of players turned it down. Just too much commitment for many. The Ramor players will have lots of chances anyway. Very young. James and Jack are injured. With McKenna cup finished what would peoples starting 15 be for Dublin? doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/01/2017 07:34:45 1946850 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "no. I wasn't on it , were you ?" No ... but 5/1 to the students with some serious county players against a Cavan 3rd team must have looked inviting to anyone connected with UUJ. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 19/01/2017 08:39:03 1946857 Link
The game showed we don't have a huge dept of squad. The ramor players turning down the invite to join the squad is their business and probably looked at the commitment required and rightly made the correct decision for them. I think the " shock the Dubs" theory is gone !! FrDougalMaguire (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 19/01/2017 09:42:08 1946876 Link
Was in Breffni last night. Time to demand a refund for the season ticket, berate players and management at every opportunity for the rest of the season, tell everyone within earshot in the pub that Cavan are ste , delight in every loss from here on out and lament the fact that some day I'll be telling the grandchildren about how we let the McKenna Cup slip through our fingers in 2017...........fk that, bring on the Dubs ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 19/01/2017 10:02:53 1946881 Link
To add to the 5 Ramor players I believe 4 castlerahan lads also turned down the opportunity. Thats 9 from our senior finalists. Then there is a few kingscourt lads that have not commited in recent years. Just shows the current demands of county football. BootIt (Cavan) - Posts: 136 - 19/01/2017 10:10:40 1946885 Link
Replying To BootIt: "To add to the 5 Ramor players I believe 4 castlerahan lads also turned down the opportunity. Thats 9 from our senior finalists. Then there is a few kingscourt lads that have not commited in recent years. Just shows the current demands of county football." ad to that 1 from kdra and 2/3 from arva who turned down gowna02 (Cavan) - Posts: 99 - 19/01/2017 10:38:57 1946905 Link
Replying To BootIt: "To add to the 5 Ramor players I believe 4 castlerahan lads also turned down the opportunity. Thats 9 from our senior finalists. Then there is a few kingscourt lads that have not commited in recent years. Just shows the current demands of county football." A few years ago when some Cavan Gaels players turned the chance down they were slated here left right and centre as not being interested. It's seems acceptable now. Different strokes for different folks it seems. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 19/01/2017 10:44:03 1946908 Link
Replying To Awwwwnow: "A few years ago when some Cavan Gaels players turned the chance down they were slated here left right and centre as not being interested. It's seems acceptable now. Different strokes for different folks it seems." Im sorry but there are not five Ramor players who are currently better than the personel on the county senior panel. Now Bradley, James Brady and the two brothers who play in the backs look like good prospects. McEnroe is on the panel is he not? Likewise, apart from Mackey who are the Castlerahan lads who are better than what is currently on the panel. Keep in mind the fact that McEnroe and Fergal Reilly are on county panels. Although, worrying that Mark Bradley did so much damage when he came on. sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 19/01/2017 11:14:40 1946916 Link
Replying To Awwwwnow: "A few years ago when some Cavan Gaels players turned the chance down they were slated here left right and centre as not being interested. It's seems acceptable now. Different strokes for different folks it seems." If people were slating them that's just ignorance. A lot of them Gaels players had highly pressurised careers that made it impossible to fully commit. The Ramor lads are still under 21 so shouldn't be pressurised yet. It's ideal for teachers and public servants but not full time working fellas. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/01/2017 11:19:10 1946919 Link
Replying To sceptical: "Im sorry but there are not five Ramor players who are currently better than the personel on the county senior panel. Now Bradley, James Brady and the two brothers who play in the backs look like good prospects. McEnroe is on the panel is he not? Likewise, apart from Mackey who are the Castlerahan lads who are better than what is currently on the panel. Keep in mind the fact that McEnroe and Fergal Reilly are on county panels. Although, worrying that Mark Bradley did so much damage when he came on." One Castlerahan player I'd like to see on county panel is Enda O Connell. In my opinion the best man marker in county. Plays on the edge. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/01/2017 11:22:58 1946924 Link
Well, there have been better nights in Breffni but I am still ok with our progress. It does put a bit of a dampner on things, especially after beating Tyrone convincingly in Breffni a couple of weeks ago. I think that we are starting to earth out a panel and the hammer will be coming soon for the league. With injuries as they are, I imagine there will be a few players in the league squad who will be nowhere near championship selection. Doratheexplorer asked for a starting 15? I can't commit to that yet as I have not seen enough but I would think the nucleus off the team will be much the same as last year. In my opinion, the certain starters against Dublin would be; Faulkner, Dunne, C Brady, Moynagh, G Smith, Corr, Clarke, M Reilly, McVeety, Johnston, McDermott Maybes O'Connor, Gunner, Conroy, O'Rourke, MCLoughlin, Hayes, Sankey. After that then it will be down to form. Buchanan, McEnroe, G McKiernan, Jack Brady and others still out and will remain out for another while it seems. I am not feeling as optimistic about Dublin as I was after last night. Maybe that is unfounded. I hope that we die on our sword anyway rather than be subjected to a blanket defense! I don't think Mattie has a notion of going defensive which is great! Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 357 - 19/01/2017 12:08:39 1946939 Link
On a more positive not, the team that i would like to see taking the field against Dublin, assuming G Mckiernan and Buchanan are still injured is; R Galligan J McGloughlin R Dunne F Reilly G Smith C Moynagh (C Brady or J Mcenroe) T Corr K Clarke M Reilly T Mooney D McVitty S Johnson C Madden P o Connor Thoughts on this? sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 19/01/2017 12:13:58 1946941 Link
Biggest problem is Clarke because he doesn't seem to really fit anywhere in a team game. Mattie don't seem to want him at full back. Maybe put him in full forward to do what Givney was doing last year. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 19/01/2017 12:19:38 1946942 Link
Replying To sceptical: "On a more positive not, the team that i would like to see taking the field against Dublin, assuming G Mckiernan and Buchanan are still injured is; R Galligan J McGloughlin R Dunne F Reilly G Smith C Moynagh (C Brady or J Mcenroe) T Corr K Clarke M Reilly T Mooney D McVitty S Johnson C Madden P o Connor Thoughts on this?" Good team. One change would be put in Niall McKiernan for Paul O Connor. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/01/2017 12:40:49 1946952 Link
Replying To doratheexplorer: "Good team. One change would be put in Niall McKiernan for Paul O Connor." Build all the teams you like it will be hard work for the management to get a team together that will give Cavan a good performance. I have a gut feeling Paul O'Connor picked up an injury last night so looking doubtful for a few weeks I am sure. From what I have seen I am sure the Boss will know what strengths we have. I still think that Clarke should be a wing half back or a wing half forward time to stop messing about and get him sorted positional wise. Those of you that were at the match I wonder can any of you explain why? when we were two points down for what was it 15 minuets or so they reverted back to playing the ball outwards instead of driving forward. I thought Seannie when he came on would have done that and picked a few close in frees. We will learn from it and now at least we had three challenge matches to learn something I hope. Keep the faith things will get better please god. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 19/01/2017 13:15:16 1946964 Link
Sceptical, that's pretty much the same forward unit that we finished with last night and we didn't look like we would catch them on the scoreboard. Think McDermott if fit is still our best forward. Not sure on Mooney yet, took far too much out of it and broke our momentum. Decision making needs to be much quicker too. Pity we didn't make the semis at least as another game would definitely be beneficial to us but it's early days. He's given a good few lads a run now but I don't see any huge improvement in what's available to us, in fact we might be weaker than last year and Givney is going to be a huge loss. If there was one player to throw on last night to lift the siege and completely change tack it would have been him. Mattie will have plenty food for thought after last night. UUJ showed up our glaring weaknesses up front. We could not break through a well organised defense and throw in a few classy forwards the other end we haemorrhaged scores. Bear in mind they didn't score for about 25 mins at the start but once they made the changes we struggled. Division 1 will be a struggle at the best of times but with only 3 home games, 2 of which are against teams you would normally write the points off against, it's going to be even tougher. It will be interesting to see how we manage and how we set up. Personally, I think if we try and set up like we did last night against the stronger teams we are in for a few very tough lessons. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 19/01/2017 13:55:19 1946978 Link
Replying To doratheexplorer: "Good team. One change would be put in Niall McKiernan for Paul O Connor." What about Niall McDermott? I would definitely have him in at full forward. Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 357 - 19/01/2017 14:01:10 1946983 Link
Replying To doratheexplorer: "Good team. One change would be put in Niall McKiernan for Paul O Connor." Actually forgot about McDermott and Faulkner. I would have him in instead of O Connor. Niall Mckiernan i believe could develop into a useful forward but needs to work on his decision making. I think that this will be a big year for both Madden and Mooney. Galligan Reilly Dunne McGloughlin Faulkner Moynagh Smith Corr Clarke M Reilly Mooney Mcvitty Johnson Madden Mcdermott. Gonna be interesting when G Mckiernan and Argue are fit. Also Murray, N Mckiernan, Ciaran Brady, O Connor to come off bench. sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 19/01/2017 14:51:45 1946999 Link
Replying To Reformation: "What about Niall McDermott? I would definitely have him in at full forward." If he's fully up to speed yeah. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/01/2017 15:06:39 1947008 Link
although disappointed at losing any game I was not looking forward to playing Tyrone again before out league outing against them so for my I was a blessing in disguise. it should not matter but id just rather our next game against them be in the league. toolbox (None) - Posts: 68 - 19/01/2017 15:17:26 1947015 Link

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