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Replying To doratheexplorer: "Reilly was poor last 10 mins. First time his form dipped. Also not helped he was injured. As for lads picking Clarke in their team and him suspended is mind-boggling. Shows intelligence. Corr is out and Ciaran Brady too." I wouldn't use a simple mistake as a sign of my intelligence, but rather your conclusions as a sign of ignorance theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 10/03/2017 12:05:05 1965939 Link
Replying To Reformation: " Replying To Cavan_Slasher: "[quote=MadgeKing: "This post has me thinking, have we actually got any big game players at all?? Think about it, who in the current panel has consistently stood up and stamped their authority on top level games? OK there are isolated examples like Mackey against Armagh in 2013, Rory Dunne v Donaghy in the Kerry QF, and maybe Johnston against Wicklow in 2010 (if that counts). We also got 40 minutes from Argue against Monaghan in 2015. And whats more, we havent seen a solitary good performance in the Ulster club championship from any Cavan player in 15 years or more. Where is the evidence for all this quality that we have ourselves convinced about? I'm beginning to wonder! Hopefully someone will prove me wrong in Omagh" I can't recall one brilliant performance by any player in the last number of years. Maybe it's just me. I also seem to lack the confidence that we can win any match because i've been fooled many a time. I don't understand the confidence some posters have before matches or what inspires it. Maybe someone could explain it? Even before the Mc Kenna Cup match against UUJ at home I wasn't very confident and look how that turned out. They put on two good forwards at half-time and they blew us out of the water by scoring something like nine points between them. Many of our players seem to lack mental strength and the heads drop when things start to go pear-shaped. This is a side of the game that need a lot of work." Harsh! What did you think of Gearoids performance against Galway last year in Breffni? What did you think of Givney v Tyrone. There are consistently good performers for Cavan. The level of negativity here is amazing. We are a small county and have no divine right to be in division one or winning Ulster titles. Thats not a cop out, it is reality. I do agree that we can be overly optimistic sometimes but that is maybe heart over head stuff sometimes. What rattles my cage is people can't enjoy the adventure in division 1 here. Why? Are people shocked that we would find it tough having lost some players and with a new manager? Get behind the team I say. We are Cavan, not Dublin, not Kerry."]yea, why should people want to compete..surely being there is enough. Why should we expect to mix it with teams that start 5 u21 players? Why should we strive to survive in Div1 after 5 ulster21 finals in a row? lets just go out and enjoy being a distant 2nd best and celebrate the fact that we are on the same pitch as some off these teams for one season before looking forward to Div2 football next season. Sure isn't that why the players are getting looked after so well, so many hundreds of thousands being spent on them..just to enjoy the participation. You must be an advocate of participation medals so we are all winners. wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1754 - 10/03/2017 12:16:37 1965944 Link
Replying To theweanling: "I wouldn't use a simple mistake as a sign of my intelligence, but rather your conclusions as a sign of ignorance" Yeah I was a bit harsh. I apologise. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 10/03/2017 12:20:29 1965945 Link
I feel the u21 success we had which was great at the time because we were so success starved is now hindering us. We played a very negative brand of football firstly with 2 or 3 forwards at most playing. Natural forwards were not nurtured and now we have none. Secondly u21 was prioritized over senior. Players who should of been unleashed at 19 and 20 were held back until 22. Look at all the other top teams they fire in lads at 18 19 if good enough. we don't. gowna02 (Cavan) - Posts: 99 - 10/03/2017 12:48:30 1965958 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: " Replying To Reformation: "[quote=Cavan_Slasher: "[quote=MadgeKing: "This post has me thinking, have we actually got any big game players at all?? Think about it, who in the current panel has consistently stood up and stamped their authority on top level games? OK there are isolated examples like Mackey against Armagh in 2013, Rory Dunne v Donaghy in the Kerry QF, and maybe Johnston against Wicklow in 2010 (if that counts). We also got 40 minutes from Argue against Monaghan in 2015. And whats more, we havent seen a solitary good performance in the Ulster club championship from any Cavan player in 15 years or more. Where is the evidence for all this quality that we have ourselves convinced about? I'm beginning to wonder! Hopefully someone will prove me wrong in Omagh" I can't recall one brilliant performance by any player in the last number of years. Maybe it's just me. I also seem to lack the confidence that we can win any match because i've been fooled many a time. I don't understand the confidence some posters have before matches or what inspires it. Maybe someone could explain it? Even before the Mc Kenna Cup match against UUJ at home I wasn't very confident and look how that turned out. They put on two good forwards at half-time and they blew us out of the water by scoring something like nine points between them. Many of our players seem to lack mental strength and the heads drop when things start to go pear-shaped. This is a side of the game that need a lot of work." Harsh! What did you think of Gearoids performance against Galway last year in Breffni? What did you think of Givney v Tyrone. There are consistently good performers for Cavan. The level of negativity here is amazing. We are a small county and have no divine right to be in division one or winning Ulster titles. Thats not a cop out, it is reality. I do agree that we can be overly optimistic sometimes but that is maybe heart over head stuff sometimes. What rattles my cage is people can't enjoy the adventure in division 1 here. Why? Are people shocked that we would find it tough having lost some players and with a new manager? Get behind the team I say. We are Cavan, not Dublin, not Kerry."]yea, why should people want to compete..surely being there is enough. Why should we expect to mix it with teams that start 5 u21 players? Why should we strive to survive in Div1 after 5 ulster21 finals in a row? lets just go out and enjoy being a distant 2nd best and celebrate the fact that we are on the same pitch as some off these teams for one season before looking forward to Div2 football next season. Sure isn't that why the players are getting looked after so well, so many hundreds of thousands being spent on them..just to enjoy the participation. You must be an advocate of participation medals so we are all winners."]silly post....I dont see us as journeymen anymore?...why should we enjoy losing division 1 games?...have some pride. We have some of the best defenders going. Think Mattie should stop changing them around so much. Make them household names in positions. The forwards need a bit of work. some of the shooting has been poor. but the chances were coming. Expecting a big and aggressive game from them sunday! .tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 10/03/2017 12:50:48 1965960 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: " Replying To Reformation: "[quote=Cavan_Slasher: "[quote=MadgeKing: "This post has me thinking, have we actually got any big game players at all?? Think about it, who in the current panel has consistently stood up and stamped their authority on top level games? OK there are isolated examples like Mackey against Armagh in 2013, Rory Dunne v Donaghy in the Kerry QF, and maybe Johnston against Wicklow in 2010 (if that counts). We also got 40 minutes from Argue against Monaghan in 2015. And whats more, we havent seen a solitary good performance in the Ulster club championship from any Cavan player in 15 years or more. Where is the evidence for all this quality that we have ourselves convinced about? I'm beginning to wonder! Hopefully someone will prove me wrong in Omagh" I can't recall one brilliant performance by any player in the last number of years. Maybe it's just me. I also seem to lack the confidence that we can win any match because i've been fooled many a time. I don't understand the confidence some posters have before matches or what inspires it. Maybe someone could explain it? Even before the Mc Kenna Cup match against UUJ at home I wasn't very confident and look how that turned out. They put on two good forwards at half-time and they blew us out of the water by scoring something like nine points between them. Many of our players seem to lack mental strength and the heads drop when things start to go pear-shaped. This is a side of the game that need a lot of work." Harsh! What did you think of Gearoids performance against Galway last year in Breffni? What did you think of Givney v Tyrone. There are consistently good performers for Cavan. The level of negativity here is amazing. We are a small county and have no divine right to be in division one or winning Ulster titles. Thats not a cop out, it is reality. I do agree that we can be overly optimistic sometimes but that is maybe heart over head stuff sometimes. What rattles my cage is people can't enjoy the adventure in division 1 here. Why? Are people shocked that we would find it tough having lost some players and with a new manager? Get behind the team I say. We are Cavan, not Dublin, not Kerry."]yea, why should people want to compete..surely being there is enough. Why should we expect to mix it with teams that start 5 u21 players? Why should we strive to survive in Div1 after 5 ulster21 finals in a row? lets just go out and enjoy being a distant 2nd best and celebrate the fact that we are on the same pitch as some off these teams for one season before looking forward to Div2 football next season. Sure isn't that why the players are getting looked after so well, so many hundreds of thousands being spent on them..just to enjoy the participation. You must be an advocate of participation medals so we are all winners."]No worries lad!!!! We're both passionate about the same thing when all is said and done theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 10/03/2017 13:04:22 1965964 Link
What is the prognosis next week for the U-21 championship opener against Fermanagh.Is it likely we will have a couple of top class seniors out of it in time,particularly forwards and midfielders.I know Thomas Galligan has shown great promise in midfield,big and mobile,maybe Mattie McKenna.The young Reilly lad from the Bridge looks a talented player in the forwards.Is Conor Bradley available,big David Brady a huge loss due to injury. celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 10/03/2017 14:33:46 1965999 Link
Replying To celt2018: "What is the prognosis next week for the U-21 championship opener against Fermanagh.Is it likely we will have a couple of top class seniors out of it in time,particularly forwards and midfielders.I know Thomas Galligan has shown great promise in midfield,big and mobile,maybe Mattie McKenna.The young Reilly lad from the Bridge looks a talented player in the forwards.Is Conor Bradley available,big David Brady a huge loss due to injury." We haven't produced any top class players from u21's in the past. OK we have players that have filtered into the Senior team, but no super stars. No one for example like Conor Mc Manus. Another problem with the U21 grade is that it is a closed shop. Squads are based on past minor teams. No open trials. We should beat fermanagh but can't see us picking up silverware. FrDougalMaguire (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 10/03/2017 15:26:54 1966011 Link
Replying To FrDougalMaguire: "We haven't produced any top class players from u21's in the past. OK we have players that have filtered into the Senior team, but no super stars. No one for example like Conor Mc Manus. Another problem with the U21 grade is that it is a closed shop. Squads are based on past minor teams. No open trials. We should beat fermanagh but can't see us picking up silverware." McManus isn't the greatest example. He didn't play Minor for Monaghan and was only drafted onto the U21 team because of club performances and he was a half back then and didn't start in full forward line for the seniors for 4 years. cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 10/03/2017 16:06:45 1966019 Link
Past u21 teams have produced Fintan Cahill and Ronan Carolan from one team and then Larry,jason,Peter,Micky Graham.all of these were natural forwards with plenty of class but more recent Ulster U21s teams have not produced even one natural forward,this is nothing to do with defensive systems. Anyone that knows anything knows that county set ups do not produce anything except much fitter and better conditioned players, the forwards we need are not produced by any county teams,they are fellas with natural flair who are nurtured by their clubs. All i am saying is that the players have to exist at club level firstly and at present they dont . celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 10/03/2017 16:58:26 1966035 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: " Replying To Reformation: "[quote=Cavan_Slasher: "[quote=MadgeKing: "This post has me thinking, have we actually got any big game players at all?? Think about it, who in the current panel has consistently stood up and stamped their authority on top level games? OK there are isolated examples like Mackey against Armagh in 2013, Rory Dunne v Donaghy in the Kerry QF, and maybe Johnston against Wicklow in 2010 (if that counts). We also got 40 minutes from Argue against Monaghan in 2015. And whats more, we havent seen a solitary good performance in the Ulster club championship from any Cavan player in 15 years or more. Where is the evidence for all this quality that we have ourselves convinced about? I'm beginning to wonder! Hopefully someone will prove me wrong in Omagh" I can't recall one brilliant performance by any player in the last number of years. Maybe it's just me. I also seem to lack the confidence that we can win any match because i've been fooled many a time. I don't understand the confidence some posters have before matches or what inspires it. Maybe someone could explain it? Even before the Mc Kenna Cup match against UUJ at home I wasn't very confident and look how that turned out. They put on two good forwards at half-time and they blew us out of the water by scoring something like nine points between them. Many of our players seem to lack mental strength and the heads drop when things start to go pear-shaped. This is a side of the game that need a lot of work." Harsh! What did you think of Gearoids performance against Galway last year in Breffni? What did you think of Givney v Tyrone. There are consistently good performers for Cavan. The level of negativity here is amazing. We are a small county and have no divine right to be in division one or winning Ulster titles. Thats not a cop out, it is reality. I do agree that we can be overly optimistic sometimes but that is maybe heart over head stuff sometimes. What rattles my cage is people can't enjoy the adventure in division 1 here. Why? Are people shocked that we would find it tough having lost some players and with a new manager? Get behind the team I say. We are Cavan, not Dublin, not Kerry."]yea, why should people want to compete..surely being there is enough. Why should we expect to mix it with teams that start 5 u21 players? Why should we strive to survive in Div1 after 5 ulster21 finals in a row? lets just go out and enjoy being a distant 2nd best and celebrate the fact that we are on the same pitch as some off these teams for one season before looking forward to Div2 football next season. Sure isn't that why the players are getting looked after so well, so many hundreds of thousands being spent on them..just to enjoy the participation. You must be an advocate of participation medals so we are all winners."]A fairly childish response that! No point taking what I said out of context to vent your frustrations with the team! I was merely putting some context into the situation. Nobody wants us to be second best. In my experiences as a footballer, I never met anyone that goes out to lose. Its disappointing where we are but there are still 8 points left to play for. I\ll be going to Omagh and looking forward to it. I think there is a big performance coming soon. Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 357 - 10/03/2017 17:28:50 1966042 Link
Replying To Reformation: " Replying To wishfulthinkin: "[quote=Reformation: "[quote=Cavan_Slasher: "[quote=MadgeKing: "This post has me thinking, have we actually got any big game players at all?? Think about it, who in the current panel has consistently stood up and stamped their authority on top level games? OK there are isolated examples like Mackey against Armagh in 2013, Rory Dunne v Donaghy in the Kerry QF, and maybe Johnston against Wicklow in 2010 (if that counts). We also got 40 minutes from Argue against Monaghan in 2015. And whats more, we havent seen a solitary good performance in the Ulster club championship from any Cavan player in 15 years or more. Where is the evidence for all this quality that we have ourselves convinced about? I'm beginning to wonder! Hopefully someone will prove me wrong in Omagh" I can't recall one brilliant performance by any player in the last number of years. Maybe it's just me. I also seem to lack the confidence that we can win any match because i've been fooled many a time. I don't understand the confidence some posters have before matches or what inspires it. Maybe someone could explain it? Even before the Mc Kenna Cup match against UUJ at home I wasn't very confident and look how that turned out. They put on two good forwards at half-time and they blew us out of the water by scoring something like nine points between them. Many of our players seem to lack mental strength and the heads drop when things start to go pear-shaped. This is a side of the game that need a lot of work." Harsh! What did you think of Gearoids performance against Galway last year in Breffni? What did you think of Givney v Tyrone. There are consistently good performers for Cavan. The level of negativity here is amazing. We are a small county and have no divine right to be in division one or winning Ulster titles. Thats not a cop out, it is reality. I do agree that we can be overly optimistic sometimes but that is maybe heart over head stuff sometimes. What rattles my cage is people can't enjoy the adventure in division 1 here. Why? Are people shocked that we would find it tough having lost some players and with a new manager? Get behind the team I say. We are Cavan, not Dublin, not Kerry."]yea, why should people want to compete..surely being there is enough. Why should we expect to mix it with teams that start 5 u21 players? Why should we strive to survive in Div1 after 5 ulster21 finals in a row? lets just go out and enjoy being a distant 2nd best and celebrate the fact that we are on the same pitch as some off these teams for one season before looking forward to Div2 football next season. Sure isn't that why the players are getting looked after so well, so many hundreds of thousands being spent on them..just to enjoy the participation. You must be an advocate of participation medals so we are all winners."]A fairly childish response that! No point taking what I said out of context to vent your frustrations with the team! I was merely putting some context into the situation. Nobody wants us to be second best. In my experiences as a footballer, I never met anyone that goes out to lose. Its disappointing where we are but there are still 8 points left to play for. I\ll be going to Omagh and looking forward to it. I think there is a big performance coming soon."]Nobody wants us to be second best but you're happy for us just to compete?? You will go to Omagh with hope rather than expectation too so you obviously have very little faith in the team too. Just waiting on the "big performance". Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 10/03/2017 22:27:47 1966087 Link
Lookin forward to a performance from the management. I expect to see nice attackin football with us goin man to man at the back. Cmon Cavan. Hopefully big ff line of madden argue and mc Kiernan. Half forwards mc Cutchon mc Kiernan an McDermott mossie an Dunne in middle McLaughlin gunner an Faulkner an Murray Moyna an Murray in FB line. Poor Tyrone won't know what hit them. shannon414 (Cavan) - Posts: 228 - 11/03/2017 00:40:00 1966099 Link
Replying To shannon414: "Lookin forward to a performance from the management. I expect to see nice attackin football with us goin man to man at the back. Cmon Cavan. Hopefully big ff line of madden argue and mc Kiernan. Half forwards mc Cutchon mc Kiernan an McDermott mossie an Dunne in middle McLaughlin gunner an Faulkner an Murray Moyna an Murray in FB line. Poor Tyrone won't know what hit them." The team has being picked and is nothing like that. You've set a record for the amount of players out of position. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 11/03/2017 09:10:06 1966113 Link
what yous think of team for sunday? why is faulkner not starting and him by far the best player we have had? cavan14 (Cavan) - Posts: 32 - 11/03/2017 09:35:44 1966114 Link
Replying To cavan14: "what yous think of team for sunday? why is faulkner not starting and him by far the best player we have had?" Any of you that were at the donegal match would of seen Falkner holding his hamstring and wanting to come off but wasn't taken off? Because we were down to 13 when actually we were down to 12 because he couldn't move. bad action when we were been beaten anyway. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 11/03/2017 09:58:09 1966116 Link
Replying To blueman1903: "Any of you that were at the donegal match would of seen Falkner holding his hamstring and wanting to come off but wasn't taken off? Because we were down to 13 when actually we were down to 12 because he couldn't move. bad action when we were been beaten anyway." sorry was at the match but didnt see thatthamks anyways big loss he is cavan14 (Cavan) - Posts: 32 - 11/03/2017 10:43:43 1966124 Link
Replying To cavan14: "sorry was at the match but didnt see thatthamks anyways big loss he is" Yes sadly young P. Faulkner had a hamstring issue and the management you will have noticed if you were at the match moved him to the full forward . Problem now is how long will he be out ?? The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 11/03/2017 11:43:38 1966130 Link
Replying To cavan14: "sorry was at the match but didnt see thatthamks anyways big loss he is" He's a huge loss hopefully he's not to bad and can play some part. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 11/03/2017 11:48:01 1966132 Link
Replying To blueman1903: "He's a huge loss hopefully he's not to bad and can play some part." I saw him pull up all right. But if it's a hamstring injury and it's enough to keep him out if the 1st 15, he'd be off the bench too. I'd say he'll be given a chance to show his fitness right up to throw in and he'll start if fit. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5333 - 11/03/2017 14:56:28 1966162 Link

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