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Replying To ExiledCuCu:  "Doesn't matter who marks who ... this man has belief in himself against anyone. We need 15 with the same confidence.

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The obsession with manzy is unreal gives me great pleasure to see all these names been mentioned to mark him used to be nudie hughes that tortured cavan now its manzy lol

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 10/02/2017 20:32:03    1954520

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Unfortunately I can't see Cavan winning a game not sure were scores will come from Johnston / McDermott are as slow as snails ... This will be shown up when the ground gets harder

jackser (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 10/02/2017 20:46:32    1954523

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Replying To prideof85:  "The obsession with manzy is unreal gives me great pleasure to see all these names been mentioned to mark him used to be nudie hughes that tortured cavan now its manzy lol"
Nudie is a legend .....McManus is from a different era.

I don't care who marks him, but I want that particular duel to be honest and within the rules regardless of the result.

Let skills win.

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 311 - 10/02/2017 21:11:14    1954533

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Replying To prideof85:  "The obsession with manzy is unreal gives me great pleasure to see all these names been mentioned to mark him used to be nudie hughes that tortured cavan now its manzy lol"
manzy? your from monaghan...ot dublin

McManus is unmarkable most days so maybe cavan need to concentrate on outscoring Monaghan than stopping one man from scoring. If Mattie does what he said he would do and play his forwards as forwards instead off 12 behind the ball like against Dublin, then the monaghan backs will have to defend instead off getting a free pass up to our half back line

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1754 - 10/02/2017 22:32:36    1954556

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Replying To sceptical:  "I agree with you in most of what you say and admire and share your positive attitude towards our county teams. However, i disagree on this point. I believe that Malachy O Rourke and the people of Monaghan are convinced of their superiority over us as a football team. They have an outstanding forward in McManus who can win most games on his own. They also have a good supporting cast in the Hughes brothers, Mone etc. They believe, no matter how much they play this down, that they will win on Sunday. Now they may well win but their arrogance is not in question nor is their belief in their superiority over us. I know you have made good lengths to integrate into the county. However, i do not believe that you understand how strong the rivalry is between real football fans in both counties. Nothing would please us as a county more than beating them in their own back yard."
sceptical, well of course they are superior to us as a football team at the moment, they are regularly contesting Ulster finals and have been ulster champs twice recently, they have beaten us in the ulster championship on the most recent occasions too. They are in Div 1 longer than we are and are just after beating Mayo (the second best team in the country). So why wouldn't they expect to beat us. It's not being arrogant or surerior, it's being realistic. The bookies have them odds-on too so I don't get your point. Of course they will not be complacent or take us for granted as they know it will be a hard-fought game but a Cavan victory would be an upset, a very pleasant upset. Get real !

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5524 - 10/02/2017 23:52:41    1954575

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Putting the posters here in Mattie McGlennan's shoes,who would you give the man marking job on McManus to. Fergal Flanagan would get it if he was available.Fergal Reilly did well last week but a tough ask for a newcomer.Jason McLoughlin might be brought in to do it. Gunner would be risky from a red card point of view.

celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts:121 - 10/02/2017 17:33:51 1954474


Maybe put T.Corr on him with strict instructions no matter what not to leave his side no jersey pulling straight man to man marking on him, this is the only way this man will be stopped legally."
Gosh, do you really think that Mossy could mark him. I may be wrong but I don't think Mossy can turn quickly enough. McManus is very quick to turn when he gets the ball and can twist you in knots. I think Faulkner would be a better option or even Martin Reilly.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5524 - 11/02/2017 00:01:38    1954579

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Replying To wishfulthinkin:  "manzy? your from monaghan...ot dublin

McManus is unmarkable most days so maybe cavan need to concentrate on outscoring Monaghan than stopping one man from scoring. If Mattie does what he said he would do and play his forwards as forwards instead off 12 behind the ball like against Dublin, then the monaghan backs will have to defend instead off getting a free pass up to our half back line"
Unmarkable???? He scored 6 against Mayo 4 from frees , 2 from play... what's unmarkable about that??

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 11/02/2017 04:29:59    1954600

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Replying To s goldrick:  "Gosh, do you really think that Mossy could mark him. I may be wrong but I don't think Mossy can turn quickly enough. McManus is very quick to turn when he gets the ball and can twist you in knots. I think Faulkner would be a better option or even Martin Reilly."
Gosh, do you really think that Mossy could mark him. I may be wrong but I don't think Mossy can turn quickly enough. McManus is very quick to turn when he gets the ball and can twist you in knots. I think Faulkner would be a better option or even Martin Reilly.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts:4543 - 11/02/2017 00:01:38 1954579

I am not sure but Mossy is stubborn and this might suit him instead just follow him all over the park and make things difficult for him ??

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 11/02/2017 08:56:01    1954613

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Unmarkable???? He scored 6 against Mayo 4 from frees , 2 from play... what's unmarkable about that??"
Best of luck to Mattie and the boys tomorrow. Let see some of the mistakes from last week being cut out resulting in an improved performance. If we get that we might just get the win!

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 11/02/2017 09:25:31    1954620

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Don't know why people are obsessed about Mc manus. Who is going to mark the Hughes brothers and keep with the speed of Karl o connell and also keep an eye on Conor Mc carthy who I expect to have a big game this week after scoring 1-2 for UCD in the sigerson midweek. Whereas Monaghan have all star coner backs to stop the Johnston's and Mc dermotts. Mc manus is not going to be the problem it's the men around him that's the problem. He scored 6 out of 1-11 in mayo 4 from frees. Monaghan didn't win Ulster with only 1 Man they have top quality around the pitch so keep focusing on Mc manus while the rest run rings around yous.

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 528 - 11/02/2017 11:31:42    1954663

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Unless we start getting more scores we are not going to survive in division 1.
I'm not convinced that starting Mc Kiernan is the right choice. I think he looked very sluggish last Sunday. Monaghan will be full of confidence following their win last week and we need 100% from everyone to get a result here. Best of luck to Mattie and the team and looking forward to an entertaining match

marita (None) - Posts: 469 - 11/02/2017 12:05:15    1954680

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Replying To marita:  "Unless we start getting more scores we are not going to survive in division 1.
I'm not convinced that starting Mc Kiernan is the right choice. I think he looked very sluggish last Sunday. Monaghan will be full of confidence following their win last week and we need 100% from everyone to get a result here. Best of luck to Mattie and the team and looking forward to an entertaining match"
He might start McKiernan at full forward.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 11/02/2017 13:22:39    1954708

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Replying To monaghanmad:  "Don't know why people are obsessed about Mc manus. Who is going to mark the Hughes brothers and keep with the speed of Karl o connell and also keep an eye on Conor Mc carthy who I expect to have a big game this week after scoring 1-2 for UCD in the sigerson midweek. Whereas Monaghan have all star coner backs to stop the Johnston's and Mc dermotts. Mc manus is not going to be the problem it's the men around him that's the problem. He scored 6 out of 1-11 in mayo 4 from frees. Monaghan didn't win Ulster with only 1 Man they have top quality around the pitch so keep focusing on Mc manus while the rest run rings around yous."
The pace of Karl o connell? There are about 4 of our players faster than him. Dont make me laugh we will have too much pace for Monaghan tomorrow and Mc manus wont get more than 5 points and thats poor for his standards.As for the Hughes brothers K clarke will mark Darren of the field and Kieran will be well monitored. If mc gleenan decides to play mckiernan in full forward he will have a 5 inches advantage over drew wylie so ur telling me yis are going to beat us??

Cavanlife (Cavan) - Posts: 54 - 11/02/2017 14:31:01    1954726

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i dunno why mcdermott isnt starting to be honest he guarantees 3 or 4 scores

cavan14 (Cavan) - Posts: 32 - 11/02/2017 17:14:24    1954779

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Very defensive team selection again from 2 - 12 there is one forward and he is selected at wing back.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 892 - 11/02/2017 17:18:14    1954782

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Replying To cavan14:  "i dunno why mcdermott isnt starting to be honest he guarantees 3 or 4 scores"
Agreed. Instead he seems to be playing Gearoid, our best ball carrier and runner from deep, at full forward with his back to goal. A position he has never played in for any significant length of time and one that nullifies his best attributes.
I would also question the wisdom of leaving McEnroe and Mossie on the bench. Two of our most experienced and effective players.

McGleenan needs time to put his mark on the team but change for the sake of change is not a good idea. There was so much improvement in Cavan last year in certain elements of our play, particularly our kickouts and attacking play, which seems to have been done away with now. If we need to take a step back to take a step forward, I'm fine with that. We just have to hope he knows what he's at.

If we lose tomorrow our league campaign is as good as over. I really hope the management and players go after this game with all they've got.

Best of luck to Mattie and the boys tomorrow!!

Inactive x5 (Cavan) - Posts: 1452 - 11/02/2017 18:05:28    1954805

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I think McDermott was very poor the last day - as was Rory Dunne ( don't know how he keeps his place )
In fairness those lads have had their share of injuries but you cant keep picking them in the hope that they'll get back to where they once were.
I think the likes of Joe Dillon and Paul O Connor have to be starters ,
Dillon for his strength up front and O Connor for his football brain - plus he can get goals.
No -one seems to know where Argue is ( is he injured or left the panel ) - he s too good to not be on - we haven't too many 6 ft 5 inch lads who can play football as well.
Best of luck to the lads tomorrow - a win would be sweet - but I think it could be a draw.

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 149 - 11/02/2017 19:06:48    1954826

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Unless we start getting more scores we are not going to survive in division 1.
I'm not convinced that starting Mc Kiernan is the right choice. I think he looked very sluggish last Sunday. Monaghan will be full of confidence following their win last week and we need 100% from everyone to get a result here. Best of luck to Mattie and the team and looking forward to an entertaining match

marita (None) - Posts: 469 - 11/02/2017 19:27:03    1954830

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Am surprised by that team selection. Thought we would have introduced some more attacking threat in the form of O'Connor or Dillon or Argue. Scorers are crucial and we can't just expect Seanie to do all because he going to be very closely marked. Maybe there will be changes before the game starts. Huge game for us & if we can match the effort levels of last week & cut out the stupid mistakes in kicking the ball away & the same players constantly carrying the ball into tackles we have a great chance. Strength & determination vital tomorrow & maybe mossy would be ideal to battle it out with the Hughes around midfield at some stage. Crazy talk on here of him marking Mcmanus !!!! Anyway here's hoping Mattie uses his Monaghan club football knowledge & gets the match ups right. Best of luck to management & the team. Believe!!!

bond (Longford) - Posts: 174 - 11/02/2017 20:59:49    1954862

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Replying To marita:  "Unless we start getting more scores we are not going to survive in division 1.
I'm not convinced that starting Mc Kiernan is the right choice. I think he looked very sluggish last Sunday. Monaghan will be full of confidence following their win last week and we need 100% from everyone to get a result here. Best of luck to Mattie and the team and looking forward to an entertaining match"
The big gun's near lost their unbeaten run tonight but scored 5 unanswered points to get a draw against Tyrone

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4602 - 11/02/2017 21:02:13    1954865

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