Was talking to one of the players today and I asked him about Gillespie, understandably he didn't say too much but the general tone wasn't bad, reckons barring another injury (obviously) he should be back soon enough.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/04/2015 17:15:10    1719304

Htaem

Well thats something,nothing to do with the knee do you know?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 30/04/2015 21:51:58    1719367

Northmeathman
County: Meath
Posts: 265

1719206 Ratoath Royal after edging it out agaisnt Castletown in the intermediate grade i see no issue with 6 Ratoath players in the Meath squad.
How has a proud footballing county fallen so badly.
You should be exploding that you have so many players involved with meath and play at the grade your at.
From what Ive seen I dont think Rotoath have the heart to win inter this year.

More concerning is Micko sees fit to have so many players from one intermediate club in the squad. Again u take it personal but if he had 6 players from Nobber i would have the same issue.

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Now NMM i would normally agree with you and do see your point but ease off on the constant hammerings would ye..
I doesn't matter if its 6 players from st pauls or moynalty or where ever on the team, if their amongst the best in the county they should be on the team, simple as.
Now TBF i said earlier in this thread that 1 or 2 of those ratoath lads shouldn't be involved but McGill, Power and Eamonn Wallace have shown they deserve their spots on the panel, with the first 2 being amongst the best performers in the league and the later, well we all know what he can do on the hard ground.
I remember a few years ago we'd 6-8 lads from O'Mahoneys on the panel when they couldn't win senior championships and people were whinging about that too but now when they are winning championships they have may 3-4 players involved but there's not too many cries for more O'Mahoneys lads.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter which club players are from, they're all Meath players when they pull on the county jersey and we should all be getting behind them.

If there's so many more deserving players that should be involved maybe you could name them for us all and we'll debate that..

I think MOD has given most lads who are worthy a shot at things and has been open ended on his panel selections.

Things aren't perfect, and I've been as critical of MOD as the next lad but preaching from the pulpit cos he's got 5 lads from an intermediate club.. give me a break

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 01/05/2015 09:09:12    1719380

To be honest ziggy he wasn't at all keen to talk about the squad, which is fair enough he probably has his orders so I didn't press the matter. He just said Gillespie should be back soon, he didn't seem too worried about him so let's just hope he's right.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/05/2015 10:34:47    1719400

Hmmm seems like a comment I made in an attempt to be humourous has brought out the anti Ratoath people yet again. Didn't think people were that obsessed but each to their own.

browncows, I don't think I or any other Ratoath club people have "exploded" here. If people make uneducated comments about the club, what do you expect me to do? My favourite one from last year was that we were supposedly rolling in money down in Brownstown. Interesting that you mention the best performers from last week. Joey Wallace scored 2-6 from play on Sunday. While the question of him being good enough for the Meath team is still an open one, it doesn't help when he being played far outfield.

ziggy, I'd also not be surprised if McMahon lost his place (not including you in my first paragraph, by the way).

Ah NMM. The mask slips further. "How has a proud footballing county fallen so badly". How lovely of you. You say if Nobber had 6 players you would have the same issue. I would hope that you would have more of an issue given that Nobber, with all due respect, have not had anywhere close to the same underage success as Ratoath. Did you also have an issue with a similar amount of Ratoath players on the Meath U21 teams of the last few years?
As for our IFC chances. I feel that the line lost last year's semi against the Bracks mainly due to having no idea how to utilise the extra man. We also have a big weakness in our team when it comes to experience. The Ratoath team is almost certainly one of the youngest in the county and the oldest player on the pitch on Sunday was 26. Now that's no excuse but in tight games, experience can and does count.

But I'll let you get back to frothing at the mouth at the sight of so many south Meath men from the likes of Ashbourne and Ratoath on the Meath team.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 01/05/2015 11:00:18    1719409

Meath for years had no Ashbourne or Ratoath lads on the team,now I am delighted they are,as I am from Ashbourne and my mother is from Ratoath,but ultimately,I don't care were the players come from,as long they are good enough etc.We have gone on about the Ratoath players for a while now,but at the moment the only player who their is a question mark over is Bryan McMahon as he does not seem to be playing well.Joey did score 2-6 at the weekend,and if he wasn't on the panel,there would be cries for him to be on the panel.No matter what panel is picked,there will always be "someone better" not on the panel.
As someone said above,Micko has given players a fair whack and is always open to trying new players.He is also trying to develop young players,and I would support him on that..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/05/2015 12:07:51    1719441

brian - I think your post is a little bit unfair to NMM. For starters he does not post very often and he is intitled to his opinion. I think that you may be incorrect in saying that 3-4 players from the county champions are on the county panel as I think it is closer to 1-2 but I may be wrong. Different views make interesting reading!

Ratoath-I am aware of the great work your club has carried out over the last 10 years plus, both in facilities and with underage and I wish your club well as I do all clubs. It takes hard work to build all the components that make a club successful.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 01/05/2015 12:14:02    1719445

The debate about the Ratoath players is taken the wrong way I feel. I don't think the club from which a player comes should have any effect on getting an opportunity with the county if he shows the talent. There is no doubt that each of these Ratoath lads have shown their ability all the way up at underage level for club and county and are deserving of their chance. McGill, Power and E Wallace have taken that chance with open arms. McMahon and O Brian are still only 22 or 23 at most and and have the ability but maybe not the toughness just yet and will e involved in the future.
As for J wallace, I see the potential he has but when I see him play he seems to just lack the composure to settle and take the right option. But giving him opportunities to play at the top level will only bring on that part of his game (hopefully) and in a year or 2 he could prove a very dangerous forward (which he already is) who is a bit more clinical.

UpAndComing (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 01/05/2015 12:29:39    1719456

browncows
County: Meath
Posts: 576

1719445 brian - I think your post is a little bit unfair to NMM. For starters he does not post very often and he is intitled to his opinion. I think that you may be incorrect in saying that 3-4 players from the county champions are on the county panel as I think it is closer to 1-2 but I may be wrong. Different views make interesting reading!
Browncows, as I said I generally do agree with NMM most of the time but not this time, and as I repeatedly said once their in green jersey I don't care what club they play for. Saying Oh this south county club at intermediate grade with 6 players etc etc etc is plain wrong. If their amongst the best 30-40 players in the whole county then they should be on the panel. O'Mahoneys have 3 players ;) 2 brays and Kevin Reilly, but that could've changed. And I'm expressing a different view from NMM am I not entitled to opinion!! Is that not the whole point that we're debating things...

Anyways role on the first round of the championship in Navan. Finally a home Leinster championship match after 20 years of waiting

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 01/05/2015 13:37:24    1719476

Brian & Ratoath royal, i dont care what club they come from or underage success so what..If i came down from planet mars and saw 5-6 players from the same club playing in senior squad from a footballing county i would say ok how many keegans, leinsters and all-ireland titles has this club got.

Oh no they are playing inter grade but have great underage success. Give me a break it's embreassing, I had the same issue with NOM's even though they were widely accepted as by far best team in Meath.

No club should have that amount of players on a senior team.

Brian stop with using young as an excuse, Kwood won inter in 94 and got to 2 senior finals in a row winning in 96 with 11 of the 15 players 21 and younger. They had no player on the Meath team during this period when Meath could compete with the best.

I will repeat, the problem is not Ratoath but how in gods name are these players being selected if they cant win inter grade.
How many players from Ballinlough or the Bracks are in the squad..

It's just wrong and tells us how poor football in Meath has gone.

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 01/05/2015 15:02:13    1719508

Michael Newman has suffered a thumb injury,he should be available for Wicklow,but imo he is a player that needs to be playing to find his form again,and he was starting to that,so I hope this injury won't set him back in that way.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/05/2015 17:39:37    1719568

Northmeathman

I do see your points,but forget about were the players are from,do you not think that the two Wallaces,McGill,Power,McMahon should be on the panel? For me they are good enough to be on the panel,the only question mark is McMahon as he has not been playing well,but he could be dropped before championship yet..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 01/05/2015 17:42:16    1719569

Hopefully not the start of another injury crisis, both these lads need to be playing regularly to make up for lost time.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 01/05/2015 18:45:29    1719580

NMM this is just our third season in intermediate. Last season, we were missing Eamonn Wallace and "only" had McMahon and Joey who were on the Meath panel. You're acting as if we've had 5 or 6 players in the squad for years.

Bracks have 3 current and past Meath players in their team. And they've been in Intermediate for much longer than us. Why are you not going off on one about them? I'll answer: because they ain't Ratoath.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 01/05/2015 21:08:23    1719597

Why in gods name do people keep bringing up the grade players play at....it's where there from, they aren't assigned too a club by the level of there play. Many a top player came from junior clubs. The reason McMahon and Joey Wallace shouldn't be on the panel is there not good enough for inter county, nothing too do with playing at intermediate level. Meath wouldn't have won anything if they only picked players from senior clubs....fact

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 891 - 02/05/2015 14:41:39    1719656

Bracks have 3 current and past Meath players in their team. And they've been in Intermediate for much longer than us.

Ratoathroyal...2 years is not MUCH in fairness.

Look lads at the end of the day ratoath are a fantastic club and quickly moving forward,i dont think it should matter how many players from any club is on a panel although i would not agree with a few of them still on panel.Im sure the management of the ratoath club doesnt like not having 6 players missing most of the time for league games either.

However a club with 6 players on the county panel in the 2nd tier of county football should be winning a championship very comfortably and it will be interesting to see how ratoath cope when the pressure comes on in knockout part of club championship.Anything less than inter county champions has to be seen as a failure.

No pressure lads ;)

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 02/05/2015 16:42:29    1719684

Don't care where a player is from. I think maybe something that people are missing is perhaps the question that should be asked is why aren't rathoath doing better with 5 county players?? Not the other way round.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/05/2015 18:59:25    1719712

North meath man

Will ye ever stop moaning and get behind your team..the reason why there are no bracks lads etc on the team is coz there not good enough for inter county football ..

the seal (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 02/05/2015 20:46:59    1719782

RD

To be fair,give Ratoath a chance,fair to ask that question if they fail to win the Intermediate this year imo.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/05/2015 21:12:30    1719795

Anyone going to Stamullen today for the challenge match?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/05/2015 11:39:06    1719859