The IRFU doesn't use the Irish flag because it is an organisation that for all its pathetic attempts at anti Englishness is more British than irish. That flag does represent the entire island. Some who play for the IRFU consider themselves British. Rte agenda is aligned to the east of Dublin not West!

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 30/09/2015 21:59:28    1794494

29/09/2015 11:20:46 galwayford
I will never sing Ireland's Call either. As it does not recognise the Irish language. I don't have a great grasp of Amhran na bhFiann also, my Irish is'nt good. But it is the National Anthem. Not Ireland's Call. Also why does Rugby always fly the Guiness flag? Not the Tri colour. Oh I know- sponsered by Guinness.
ormondbannerman
IRFU doesn't use the tricolour as it doesn't represent the entire island. They use their own
30/09/2015 21:19:22 Bain
So basically what your saying is that the players don't represent a country or its people. They represent an sporting organisation. And whoever throws money at them. And people wonder why a large proportion of the country doesn't embrace rugby. How can they if they have no Sense of identity. I don't see how anything I said could mean that the players don't represent a country or the entire island.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/10/2015 11:28:34    1794588

30/09/2015 21:59:28
sceptical
The IRFU doesn't use the Irish flag because it is an organisation that for all its pathetic attempts at anti Englishness is more British than irish. That flag does represent the entire island. Some who play for the IRFU consider themselves British. Rte agenda is aligned to the east of Dublin not West! The IRFU doesn't use the tricolour as they want to use a flag that is non political to represent them

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/10/2015 11:30:52    1795073

September. The most important month in the Gaelic Games calendar. The All Ireland Hurling Final. The All Ireland Camogie Final. The All Ireland Football Final. The All Ireland Ladies Football Final. Four of the nation's most important sports events. RTE TV News and Sport didn't seem to agree.

Six One News and Sports Item Frequency
1. Rugby Union covered on 27 of the month's 30 programmes (90%)
2. Soccer covered on 26 of the 30 programmes (86%)
3. Gaelic Games covered on 25 of the 30 programmes (83%)

So even though September marks the highpoint of the Gaelic Games year it still only makes it into 3rd place in this RTE category. More to come in other RTE categories.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 06/10/2015 20:47:47    1796576

How many RTE News viewers are GAA only supporters and what percentage of the overall RTE News viewers do they represent?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8171 - 06/10/2015 21:18:46    1796595

As amateurs it is unfair to expect GAA managers and players to hold press conferences and announce team news every day like in professional sports like soccer and rugby. They actually have jobs to do Monday to Friday.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 06/10/2015 21:20:21    1796597

06/10/2015 20:47:47 mediaman
September. The most important month in the Gaelic Games calendar. The All Ireland Hurling Final. The All Ireland Camogie Final. The All Ireland Football Final. The All Ireland Ladies Football Final. Four of the nation's most important sports events. RTE TV News and Sport didn't seem to agree.
Six One News and Sports Item Frequency
1. Rugby Union covered on 27 of the month's 30 programmes (90%)
2. Soccer covered on 26 of the 30 programmes (86%)
3. Gaelic Games covered on 25 of the 30 programmes (83%)
So even though September marks the highpoint of the Gaelic Games year it still only makes it into 3rd place in this RTE category. More to come in other RTE categories. Rugby World Cup is on. A once in 4 years event. We have very genuine chances of doing very well. That will of course lead rugby to be covered more than other sports regardless of it being the month the all Ireland finals are played.
06/10/2015 21:18:46
GreenandRed
How many RTE News viewers are GAA only supporters and what percentage of the overall RTE News viewers do they represent? that doesn't matter to mediaman.... and his anti rte/rugby crusade
06/10/2015 21:20:21 bad.monkey
As amateurs it is unfair to expect GAA managers and players to hold press conferences and announce team news every day like in professional sports like soccer and rugby. They actually have jobs to do Monday to Friday. very fair point and ive done a media course or two with likes of joe molloy etc and they have said that that is a big issue with access to players/management teams.....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/10/2015 10:59:20    1796671

In spite of September being All Ireland Finals month RTE Six One News and Sport featured Rugby Union and Soccer more often than Gaelic Games. (See earlier post) In addition to that RTE also decided to give Rugby Union the highly significant No.1 slot more often than any other sport.

Six One News and Sport First Item
1. Rugby Union - first item on 11 of 30 programmes (37%)
2. Gaelic Games - first item on 9 of 30 programmes (30%)
3. Soccer - first item on 8 of 30 programmes (27%)
= 4. Golf/Cycling - first item once each of 30 programmes (3% each)

So once again Gaelic Games loses out even in the all important month of September. RTE News and Sport put two Rugby internationals Ireland v Canada and Ireland v Romania (both foregone conclusions) ahead of the All Ireland Football and Hurling Finals even though there was clearly more interest in the two All Ireland Finals nationwide. The television viewing figures prove that. The average for the two Rugby Union matches was 670,000 while the average figures for the Football and Hurling Finals were closer to 800,000. Yet RTE still gave Rugby Union top billing for September. Mother Ireland you're rearing them still.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 08/10/2015 21:51:12    1797286

Mediaman - out of curiosity why do you believe gaa has a devine right to be the top news item - can you not accept that others maybe just maybe like other sports and wish to be informed about them

you say rte is biased against gaa yet they showed 33 (i think) live games plus 2 camogie games- sunday game every sunday- up for the match - for more than other sports which is a lot more than rugby - they show no champions cup no pro 12 games no world cup

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/10/2015 09:53:23    1797315

Janesboro...they don't show those competitions as they have no rights to them.

They are starting to lose friendly internationals as well and eventually in around 10 years or so the 6 Nations etc will go.

Long term, strategically, RTE would be better putting more resources into GAA, horse racing etc. sports they can keep the rights to.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 09/10/2015 11:23:58    1797389

That's very true Witnof. I hope they have more GAA coverage. But Mediaman is talking about the RTE News sports bulletins proritising rugby. He's correct, but there's a rugby World Cup on. RTE don't even have coverage for it on TV. What should they have on their sports bulletin during the rugby World Cup? The Macedonian Bog Snorkelling Championship or the Peruvian BMX league ????

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8171 - 09/10/2015 11:34:33    1797396

GreenandRed they should be giving more coverage to or Boxers in the WC for a start!!

Some performance by te boxers again, they never let us doan, and I hope the Walsh situation has no negative impact.

I know there is soccer and rugby but the boxing is under-reported, go onto the RTE website today and you have to hunt for news about the Boxers

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 12/10/2015 11:01:13    1797949

ormondbannerman

Your posts just get better and better. . . .is there an Irishman in you at all ?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3836 - 12/10/2015 14:08:15    1798032

12/10/2015 14:08:15
Doylerwex
Ormond

Your posts just get better and better. . . .is there an Irishman in you at all ? How in anyway am I not Irish?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/10/2015 14:20:57    1798042

If the O'Brien punch happened at a GAA match would it appear on the Six O'Clock news? I think we all know the answer to that. Not only would it appear but it would be shown in detail together with some reporter giving out about GAA violence. So why the double standards. I think we all know the answer to that.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 12/10/2015 19:38:49    1798168

Mod - I presume the reason RTE do not refer to the incident you refer to as violent is because violence is endemic in the rugby field, neither do RTE state that a punch was thrown, instead they use the word sighted, a nice refined word for what was a violent incident. Many of these people who defend the hard hits in the rugby field are people who do not play the game themselves. Those people do not have to live with the consequences of these hard hits in later life. I certainly would discourage my children from playing the game of rugby.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 12/10/2015 21:16:18    1798206

mod
County: Mayo
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1798168
If the O'Brien punch happened at a GAA match would it appear on the Six O'Clock news? I think we all know the answer to that. Not only would it appear but it would be shown in detail together with some reporter giving out about GAA violence. So why the double standards. I think we all know the answer to that.


One of the top items on the 9 O'clock news tonight so are you happy now?? Thing is when they show GAA incidents it's because there are a lot of players, sideline officials and spectators involved.

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 12/10/2015 21:23:35    1798210

Look Paul o connell is a legend and Sunday was a great performance but in a weekend where 18 county finals are played we have no mention of some matches in media. The hype around this world cup is rediculous. I mean ireland beat Romania canada Italy and France none of whom are great. Listening to rte you would think that we are all putting mortgages on winning the Web Ellis. Who would know that about 100000 people PAID into gaa matches this weekend. HYPE HYPE AND MORE HYPE.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 12/10/2015 22:02:23    1798219

The player is 'cited' not 'sighted'.

over35hurler (Cork) - Posts: 36 - 13/10/2015 08:19:24    1798225

Look Paul o connell is a legend and Sunday was a great performance but in a weekend where 18 county finals are played we have no mention of some matches in media. The hype around this world cup is rediculous.

All fair points but I guess it is mainly up to the local media to cover county finals and the county teams. Limerick's Live 95 gives excellent coverage to Gaelic Football & Hurling and on Saturday mornings has a segment for Soccer and Athletics. Most sports in the region are covered and e also have a pretty impressive commentator called Liam Aherne who is passionate about all things GAA and adds excitement to the games he covers. If Ireland or Munster are playing rugby I'd often listen to Limerick 95 if they are covering the game as we have Len Dineen covering the games, a true passionate rugby man. His commentary is not great, often you wouldn't have a clue where the ball is on the pitch & only hear 'the tackles fly in' but by God does the man put love of the game into every word.

So what the National broadcaster often leaves be, can be covered by the local stations.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6490 - 13/10/2015 08:28:31    1798227