Saw the Japan coach Eddie Jones interviewed the other day and he was saying that it was a real novelty for rugby to be featured in the sports news in Japan after their win over South Africa. Usually it is sumo wrestling, their national sport which is also unique to their culture, that is featured along with a bit of baseball. With Japan holding the next rugby world cup and needing to raise the profile of the game I wonder would Radio Telefis Japan consider trying to get Roy Curtis over to Tokyo? The news could start every day with a report on another New Zealand tourist arriving through the airport who could potentially stay and sign up to play for the Japanese at the next world cup.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/09/2015 19:42:50    1792793

Irelands call demands and deserves no respect. Our national anthem does.i recognise no nation that is represented by irelands call. For 600 years some from this land have bent over backwards for fear of angering other cultures.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 27/09/2015 20:52:42    1792823

Lol Soma.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 27/09/2015 20:58:26    1792826

Fair point bloodyban. I stand for it but I don't sing it.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 27/09/2015 20:59:52    1792827

The foggy dew should be our anthem, it works or that Scottish fighter living in Dublin :-) or 4 green fields, or Gavin Fridays in the name of the father???

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/09/2015 21:45:50    1792851

We have a national anthem, it's not irelands call by the way, we don't need another.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 27/09/2015 21:56:48    1792855

27/09/2015 19:00:47 Greengrass
Ireland's Call doesn't represent all Ormond. It clearly does and certainly represents more than Amhran na bhfiann does
27/09/2015 19:15:28 bloodyban
Irelands call is supposed to represent everyone. That's why it was wrote. Weather one chooses to sing it or not is an individual's choice(a few of the southern guys don't I notice which is a bit unfortunate). Personally I'd like everyone to stand up and sing it but the minimum I'd expect is respect for it. And it is respected
27/09/2015 20:52:42 sceptical
Irelands call demands and deserves no respect. Our national anthem does.i recognise no nation that is represented by irelands call. For 600 years some from this land have bent over backwards for fear of angering other cultures. Amhran na bhfiann doesn't represent all. Amhran na bhfiann is the national anthem of the republic of Ireland but the republic of Ireland don't play international rugby. Ireland does.
27/09/2015 21:56:48
sceptical
We have a national anthem, it's not irelands call by the way, we don't need another. Amhran na bhfiann doesn't represent all and will never be played at away games or world cup games.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/09/2015 10:23:14    1792927

Ormond : what is wrong with you ? The Republic of Ireland gets capital letters . On two occasions you have left this out . Why is that ?
There are many other mistakes but first of all try and get that part right .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 28/09/2015 11:29:18    1792985

Ormond, you are digging a very deep hole. Do yourself a favour and stop with your ridiculous assertions with regards to Amhran na bhFiann.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 28/09/2015 15:29:49    1793170

I don't understand your point Ormo. Can you say it again word-for-word without any explanation for what must be the umpteenth time please? We've not all studied NI politics you see.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12452 - 28/09/2015 15:36:13    1793180

Ormond there are enough people in Ireland saying that Ireland's Call doesn't represent them so you cannot bully everyone into saying it does. Amhran na bhfiann doesn't niether.

In fact IC's is as bad as Amhran na bhFiann, as its sung in English because for some reasons Unionists object to the Irish language.

Why I ask has the IRFU banished the native language.....you can have different languages in one song i.e. South Africa

Its all part of a re-writing of rugby history to try and paint it as a unify force...but it was not that....it was a cold house for Catholics in the North, as was the GAA to Protestants.

Things have changed on both sides now, but I do not see why I should feel represented in a song that has banished our native tongue.

I will stand when IC is played but I will never sing it.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/09/2015 16:52:54    1793243

28/09/2015 11:29:18 TheRightStuff
Ormond : what is wrong with you ? The Republic of Ireland gets capital letters . On two occasions you have left this out . Why is that ?
There are many other mistakes but first of all try and get that part right . Do you not know Mudrys Law TheRightStuff? As that states: "If you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written."
And you are not meant to put a space between you and a question mark or the final word of a sentence and the full stop. Why do you constantly put that space in?
28/09/2015 15:29:49 Greengrass
Ormond, you are digging a very deep hole. Do yourself a favour and stop with your ridiculous assertions with regards to Amhran na bhFiann. What hole am I digging? What is ridiculous with what's been said about Amhran na bhfiann?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/09/2015 19:26:55    1793292

Saying it is less representative than Ireland's Call Ormond . You are in general an interesting poster . Your stance on this particular issue is very strange .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 28/09/2015 20:08:37    1793302

Do you not know Mudrys Law TheRightStuff?

Don't you mean Murphys law?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/09/2015 20:34:14    1793321

28/09/2015 20:08:37
Greengrass
Saying it is less representative than Ireland's Call Ormond. You are in general an interesting poster . Your stance on this particular issue is very strange . What is strange about my stance? Amhran na bhfiann for everything it stands for/historically etc will not be acceptable to those of a certain political orientation. Irelands Call is non political. It should be played home and away and Amhran na bhfiann at home considering we cant play both at all games
28/09/2015 20:34:14
gotmilk
Do you not know Mudrys Law TheRightStuff?
Don't you mean Murphys law? Meant Muphry's law .......

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/09/2015 21:40:04    1793349

I will never sing Ireland's Call either. As it does not recognise the Irish language. I don't have a great grasp of Amhran na bhFiann also, my Irish is'nt good. But it is the National Anthem. Not Ireland's Call. Also why does Rugby always fly the Guiness flag? Not the Tri colour. Oh I know- sponsered by Guinness.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2625 - 29/09/2015 11:20:46    1793468

29/09/2015 11:20:46
galwayford
I will never sing Ireland's Call either. As it does not recognise the Irish language. I don't have a great grasp of Amhran na bhFiann also, my Irish is'nt good. But it is the National Anthem. Not Ireland's Call. Also why does Rugby always fly the Guiness flag? Not the Tri colour. Oh I know- sponsered by Guinness. IRFU doesn't use the tricolour as it doesn't represent the entire island. They use their own flag link

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/09/2015 11:57:13    1793513

This topic is nearly done to death. There doesn't seem to be much wavering in opinions. I'm four square behind Ormond on this one. Maybe it's a munster thing . For me personally iv been involved with rugby when the AIL was in its pomp. Iv travelled north on many occasions to Ballymena and Belfast. I know the differences and compromises that the unionists have bridged and made. Being a GAA site there's going to be a higher proportion of Nationalists so I recognise that.
But Iv to laugh when I read the post that said the anthem should be in Irish. Now I'm not poo pooing the legitimate point but for crying out loud...95% of us on the Island don't speak Irish!..

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 30/09/2015 13:21:26    1794211

And why exactly would it be a Munster thing ? Are you somehow more ecumenical in Munster ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 30/09/2015 14:19:50    1794250

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29/09/2015 11:20:46
galwayford
I will never sing Ireland's Call either. As it does not recognise the Irish language. I don't have a great grasp of Amhran na bhFiann also, my Irish is'nt good. But it is the National Anthem. Not Ireland's Call. Also why does Rugby always fly the Guiness flag? Not the Tri colour. Oh I know- sponsered by Guinness. IRFU doesn't use the tricolour as it doesn't represent the entire island. They use their own
So basically what your saying is that the players don't represent a country or its people. They represent an sporting organisation. And whoever throws money at them. And people wonder why a large proportion of the country doesn't embrace rugby. How can they if they have no Sense of identity.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 30/09/2015 21:19:22    1794473