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Mea Culpa. Of course Niall Mitchell should be on team, left Luke Loughlin out as he missed a few matches but he certainly should be a sub.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 11/10/2022 17:53:12    2443615

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Senior team of championship: 1. Trevor Martin. 2. Darragh Egerton. 3. Sam Smyth. 4. David Whelan. 5. Joseph Moran. 6. Nigel Harte. 7. Peter Foy. 8. Denis Corroon. 9. Kieran Nolan. 10. Ger Egan. 11. Ronan O' Toole. 12. Andrew Kilmartin. 13. Senan Baker. 14. John Heslin. 15. Briain Cooney. Subs: Jason Daly, Eoghan Bracken, Shane Dempsey, Devin Hill, Sam McCartan, Aaron Kiernan, Eanna Burke, Conor Coughlan."
Majority of players there from group A and not disputing them but few notable players from group B are Ray Connellan who was Athlones main man in all their games. He really stood out in any game they played. Sean Pettit for Rosemount was their shining light in a disappointing season and scored a lot for them. Killian Doyle was very good for Killucan and Darragh Burke and Shane Hanly stood out for Tang

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 11/10/2022 20:57:21    2443648

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Was there a Westmeath Hoganstand Yearbook out this year does anyone know. Its usually out in March April but I didn't see it this year?

gti (Westmeath) - Posts: 240 - 12/10/2022 09:15:39    2443667

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Senior team of championship: 1. Trevor Martin. 2. Darragh Egerton. 3. Sam Smyth. 4. David Whelan. 5. Joseph Moran. 6. Nigel Harte. 7. Peter Foy. 8. Denis Corroon. 9. Kieran Nolan. 10. Ger Egan. 11. Ronan O' Toole. 12. Andrew Kilmartin. 13. Senan Baker. 14. John Heslin. 15. Briain Cooney. Subs: Jason Daly, Eoghan Bracken, Shane Dempsey, Devin Hill, Sam McCartan, Aaron Kiernan, Eanna Burke, Conor Coughlan."
Can't complain with that team (including Loughlin & Mitchell) which of the standouts will be call into the county set up?

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 12/10/2022 09:27:54    2443672

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Replying To midlands:  "Yeah, I've seen him a few times this year and he's one of the best around, definitely."
I agree no issues on Sunday, good job done.

WestmeathFan (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 13/10/2022 09:22:58    2443796

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New management will surely be chatting to Niall Mitchell about involvement in football panel. He's obviously a prominent county hurler but was outstanding in semi final and final for The Downs. He'd be a considerable addition to the footballers as he's powerful and versatile.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 13/10/2022 09:56:19    2443804

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Now that the dust has settled on the various Championships - I know there is an Intermediate to settle - it's time for the wheels of the managerial merry-go-round to get greased up and start spinning.
What clubs have openings & will be looking to recruit for the 2023 season?

fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 144 - 13/10/2022 15:48:12    2443863

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I believe Declan Kelly was in his last year with Lomans - not sure if that has changed now following the county final defeat. Shane Curran staying with Caulry as announced a while back.
Hard to tell with other clubs:
Garrycastle and Shamrocks dropped down to Section B
Caulry and Kinnegad reached quarter finals.
TPass and Killucan both up to Section A with young local managers.
Athlone and Moate probably static so hard to know.
Tang won 2 games and comfortably avoided relegation - another local manager.
Rosemount relegated - hard to know.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 13/10/2022 17:15:16    2443882

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Interesting to see Oisin McConville is another manager holding trials in Wicklow on Saturday morning… Same thing in Meath. Would it be worth holding Westmeath trials to get the very best out of our senior squad for next year?

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 13/10/2022 19:01:20    2443897

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Replying To Edman78:  "Interesting to see Oisin McConville is another manager holding trials in Wicklow on Saturday morning… Same thing in Meath. Would it be worth holding Westmeath trials to get the very best out of our senior squad for next year?"
Would be a good idea to try something like this but typical of westmeath will only go with the same players again maybe put in 1 or two young lads in the league.

Dazzler30 (Westmeath) - Posts: 11 - 14/10/2022 10:21:13    2443942

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Replying To Dazzler30:  "Would be a good idea to try something like this but typical of westmeath will only go with the same players again maybe put in 1 or two young lads in the league."
Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 14/10/2022 11:25:53    2443951

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Replying To Dazzler30:  "Would be a good idea to try something like this but typical of westmeath will only go with the same players again maybe put in 1 or two young lads in the league."
the same players didnt do so bad this year but there will all ways be the begrudgers

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1801 - 14/10/2022 11:43:39    2443953

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Is it true that county footballers player will be away on a county organised holiday while the Leinster club championships are on with player potenital missing two games.
I presume that the holiday is being organised by the county board ??.

BarrRst (Westmeath) - Posts: 14 - 14/10/2022 13:11:40    2443963

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Replying To jamsie:  "Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be."
Can't say I agree with that. Trials can be a very good idea and you're only looking for the extra 1 or 2% with trials. The management are from Westmeath but they're not local in a sense. They wouldn't have been at all of those games from junior, intermediate to senior this year. They couldn't possibly have been in fairness to them so a trial is a great way to fill the gaps. Certainly not a waste of time. But progress works in small increments, that's why leaving no stone unturned is always a good idea. Having a Local management can actually be a blinkered approach to finding the next few players that can be developed for Westmeath. Every year there are a couple of players with potential in every single county. And if there isn't, then maybe that's maybe a bigger problem.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 14/10/2022 13:38:31    2443967

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Replying To BigSur:  "I believe Declan Kelly was in his last year with Lomans - not sure if that has changed now following the county final defeat. Shane Curran staying with Caulry as announced a while back.
Hard to tell with other clubs:
Garrycastle and Shamrocks dropped down to Section B
Caulry and Kinnegad reached quarter finals.
TPass and Killucan both up to Section A with young local managers.
Athlone and Moate probably static so hard to know.
Tang won 2 games and comfortably avoided relegation - another local manager.
Rosemount relegated - hard to know."
Tang, Rosemount and Moate all looking for managers.

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 178 - 14/10/2022 14:57:59    2443982

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Replying To jamsie:  "Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be."
Trials can work both ways. Just as much as a player can step forward some could possibly play themselves off the panel. So i wouldnt restrict it to new players but fringe players also.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 14/10/2022 16:31:11    2443992

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Trials are no harm at all, even split the county in 5 teams and play a game over 3 weekends with 5 teams with none of the players who are on the panel. The difference being the clubs can only nominate players that aren't from there club, this then gets rid of bias. Each club to put forward 5 players ,the other teams know exactly the best players from the teams they played are so it's an independent choice to a certain degree.
County management obviously need to be kept in the loop and should have input to this.
I think it would interesting because I was part of a backroom team once and I know a lot of the time it wasn't the county player we were worried about.

PowellJohn (Westmeath) - Posts: 95 - 14/10/2022 19:22:59    2444008

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Replying To jamsie:  "Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be."
I agree with a lot of this sentiment. A trial game or games will unearth very little. At best, an already known player will perform well and increase their profile slightly. Being an inter county footballer or hurler takes a lot more than simply being above average in a single game environment.
John Keane was U21 manager in 2017; since that Damien Gavin has been in the role. There's no doubt that between them there's no player unknown in that age bracket (18-26).
The only way that 'new' players will be identified is if there is another Jack Smith out there; that then creates a whole new debate.

Posters here seem to believe that there is a cohort of players within Westmeath that are inter-county level and have somehow gone under the radar since 2017; but Hoganstand posters are aware of them?

The mandate of the new management team should be to continue nurturing the culture created by Jack Cooney and further develop the current squad. Of course, they'll make additions to the training panel and a player or two may come of age and make the breakthrough.
Jack Cooney should be credited for the conditioning of the squad; that's something where I think we are on a par with the best in the country. I think there was also great development done on the psychological side of things. The next step in progression is advancement of the technical and tactical knowhow of individuals and the team as a whole. With John Keane you have the ideal candidate for that - as good as any in the country to coach those areas.

fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 144 - 15/10/2022 08:55:22    2444019

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Replying To jamsie:  "Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be."
Colm o Rourke local manager and doesn't feel it's a waste of time he's going to check over everyone which is a better idea to progress forward

Dazzler30 (Westmeath) - Posts: 11 - 15/10/2022 10:09:57    2444025

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Replying To jamsie:  "Trials are a waste of time. The management team are local. They know the players. There are no hidden gems out there in our small county. The best players are on the panel , with the exception of times when a player has themselves chosen not to be."
Colm o Rourke a local manager who knows meath football but doesn't see trials as a waste of time as he is leaving no stone unturned

Dazzler30 (Westmeath) - Posts: 11 - 15/10/2022 10:14:32    2444027

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