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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Dublin's dominance has destroyed Leinster football. It's just sad to Laois in such a desperate state and taking an awful, embarrassing hammering like this."
Derry minors very impressive today against Dublin.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 532 - 25/06/2023 18:55:19    2489230

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Mayo on Sunday you'd assume?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 26/06/2023 09:05:00    2489374

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Replying To realdub:  "Embarrassing"
Were you there? You've never once commented on the "Dublin hurling" thread.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1334 - 26/06/2023 09:54:51    2489390

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Are we happy we this draw? Mayo will be tired. But they always up their game against us. We're going to need Jack and Mannion badly here. Fear for our defence. Jamesy is one that f the greatest players of f his generation but he has become more error prone lately. He has been caught n possession a few times and his team adding can be a little wayward. Mayo will feed off our mistakes. Mayo are the team we d least want to meet. I reckon Kerry will be very nervous of Tyrone too. We all remember what happened two years ago.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 26/06/2023 10:11:19    2489405

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Replying To avonali:  "Are we happy we this draw? Mayo will be tired. But they always up their game against us. We're going to need Jack and Mannion badly here. Fear for our defence. Jamesy is one that f the greatest players of f his generation but he has become more error prone lately. He has been caught n possession a few times and his team adding can be a little wayward. Mayo will feed off our mistakes. Mayo are the team we d least want to meet. I reckon Kerry will be very nervous of Tyrone too. We all remember what happened two years ago."
Happy enough with it to be honest. We've got to face them some time. Our squad is good enough. We've plenty of firepower, an experienced half back line but my constant fear is our FBs. If we don't put cover in front of them then they'll be in trouble. The days of enforcers like Johnny, Philly and the ROC marshalling in there are gone. When the game loosens up we could be in trouble back inside the 20. McStay will have his homework done.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 26/06/2023 13:19:14    2489539

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Replying To avonali:  "Are we happy we this draw? Mayo will be tired. But they always up their game against us. We're going to need Jack and Mannion badly here. Fear for our defence. Jamesy is one that f the greatest players of f his generation but he has become more error prone lately. He has been caught n possession a few times and his team adding can be a little wayward. Mayo will feed off our mistakes. Mayo are the team we d least want to meet. I reckon Kerry will be very nervous of Tyrone too. We all remember what happened two years ago."
I'm not jumping through hoops but I'm not down in the dumps either.

At this stage you're going to come up against someone capable so it is what it is.

My gut instinct is that we will go out.

I think the lack of game time against div 1 sides this year, mayo having beaten Kerry and Galway, with momentum behind them, and Dublin just being a bit, meh, in 2023 swings it Mayos way for me.

Everything about this Dublin team at the minute has my head melted. The flat track bullying against Laois and Louth. The inability to beat a team who sit 15 men behind the ball. The unforced errors from experienced players. The consistent inconsistency that's so reminiscent of all things pre pat gilroy and Jim gavin.

They frustrate the life out of me again and it's a feeling I didn't miss when we were imperious but alas we've rejoined the pack and there's no all ireland there for thr foreseeable I'm sorry to say.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong on Sunday but can't see it for thr life of me

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 26/06/2023 13:30:00    2489550

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I think unfortunately you have it nailed Wayno. Good post.

My two cents..

Dubs don't seem able to put in two consistent performances on the bounce, I'd be concerned about the cake walk performance against Sligo. I don't think thats very good prep whatsoever.

Mayo have just beaten both Kerry and Galway away from home, and the Galway game and the confidence taken from that is a big advantage, I don't think they'll be tired, I think it'll prime time.

There is hope though in that Mayo have already been beaten twice.. so there's weaknesses there

Dubs have been exposed by the better teams they've played thus far, it'll take their best performance in a couple of years to get through Mayo.

If we approach this with a more defensive mindset, limit them, we have the forwards that will score but it will take an above average defensive performance, what we've seen to date won't cut it.

I think it's advantage Mayo here.. for me it was the toughest draw possible and the momentum is with Mayo here fresh off an away win against Galway.. their tails will be up.

Has the makings of another great battle

Can Mayo beat Kerry, Galway and now Dublin away from home.. listen fair play if they do but hopefully they run into their up and down ways again, and we can find out best performance for a while..

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 26/06/2023 14:22:00    2489586

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Dublin's dominance has destroyed Leinster football. It's just sad to Laois in such a desperate state and taking an awful, embarrassing hammering like this."
How did Antrim do? Looked like headless chickens in the last quarter of any hour with the wides and panicking in front of goal. Choked it I'd say. Just like the "war" :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3490 - 26/06/2023 14:28:49    2489594

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This wasn't the draw i was hoping for at all to be honest and not all that confident for two reasons, 1. I think Mayo running game does not our defenders or our defensive at all. Overall we might not have the legs to match these. 2) They are a ferocious winner of turnover and we have been so sloppy of late.

Ive been waiting all year, for it all to click for us and it hasn't yet, it need to on Sunday or we'l all be on to Budget Travel on Monday looking for a last minute deal somewhere sunny.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4515 - 26/06/2023 14:30:00    2489596

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Even hearing this stuff about our forwards. I'm not seeing it. Forget the shootout against Laois, Louth and Sligo and look at them in context. Kerry hit 5-20something against Louth, Down hit 8 goals against Laois last weekend so that puts our performance into perspective and Sligo played D4 football in the spring, so take them out and all of a sudden in 2023 you have:

- 1-11 against Kildare in the league (12 scores)
- 2-17 v limerick, I mean, no offence Limerick but, come on now
-No goals against Cork
-0-13 v Derry, no goals
-2-19 away at meath, not to be sniffed at cause of the "rivalry" I guess but they're pony
-0-16 v Louth - no goals.

And in the one championship game so far where we've played a d1 team, we scored 1-11 v Roscommon and were absolutely abysmal for 95% of the game.

Defensively we look at 6s and 7s too.

Haven't seen the odds but I'd imagine it's close and it's not based on Dublin in 2023 so far that's for sure, it'll be based purely on the name and occasion, not form cause unless we dog out another 30-40% we aren't getting within 6 points of them.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 26/06/2023 14:40:46    2489608

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Said at the start of the year, they will win the All Ireland. They've got their mojo back and haven't hit 2nd gear yet.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 26/06/2023 14:51:42    2489618

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Don't fancy us here at all but it'll be close. Someone annoyed at my 'embarrassing ' comment.
Yes I do attend our hurling games when I can, no I wasn't there last weekend.
Yes I have commented on hurling threads before if rarely.
Sorry for offending you but I was actually embarrassed.
Please forgive me.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8746 - 26/06/2023 14:52:57    2489621

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Dublin and Derry are the only two teams to be unbeaten in the group stages. Mayo have been hot and cold just like Dublin. They were beaten by Cork when it mattered, a mid Div 2 team. They went 33m yesterday without scoring and 3 of their key forwards are the wrong side of 30. I've a feeling that there's a really big game in this Dublin team. The problem is that it has to come on Sun or they could be out. Jack and Mannion have to start, end of. That Mayo defence will cough up chances and we have the players to hurt them. The problem is that our defence will cough up chances too. The question is whether Mayo have the forwards to punish us. Every time we meet them I say it could go either way and agains this could go either way.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 26/06/2023 15:17:07    2489633

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Replying To TheUsername:  "This wasn't the draw i was hoping for at all to be honest and not all that confident for two reasons, 1. I think Mayo running game does not our defenders or our defensive at all. Overall we might not have the legs to match these. 2) They are a ferocious winner of turnover and we have been so sloppy of late.

Ive been waiting all year, for it all to click for us and it hasn't yet, it need to on Sunday or we'l all be on to Budget Travel on Monday looking for a last minute deal somewhere sunny."
Perfect draw imo.

Got to beat a good side eventually.

Better to find out in the quarter finals if we're good enough than stumbling on for another week imo.

Mayo have been the best team all year so let's see if we're good enough. Like you I reckon we're still a little short but we'll soon find out!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 26/06/2023 15:19:48    2489637

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re:Mayo, I have to agree with what's been said thus far. The battles the Dubs have had so far this year have not been cutthroat, and the tight ones we've either just fallen over the line (Cork, Kildare) or let slip (Roscommon). Unless Dessie has broken his own mould and instilled a masterplan or two from the long grasses then it'll be a straight scrap, and we've shown a soft enough underbelly this year. Can we cope with a pacy physical attack/eke out the scores at the other end / withstand a momentum-swing against us? Look, who knows? The champions only squeaked past us last year in the semi final. It could be the making of the team. It's the least confident I've been going into a QF for a long time. Probably since Tyrone 2011.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 26/06/2023 16:00:22    2489679

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Replying To waynoI:  "Even hearing this stuff about our forwards. I'm not seeing it. Forget the shootout against Laois, Louth and Sligo and look at them in context. Kerry hit 5-20something against Louth, Down hit 8 goals against Laois last weekend so that puts our performance into perspective and Sligo played D4 football in the spring, so take them out and all of a sudden in 2023 you have:

- 1-11 against Kildare in the league (12 scores)
- 2-17 v limerick, I mean, no offence Limerick but, come on now
-No goals against Cork
-0-13 v Derry, no goals
-2-19 away at meath, not to be sniffed at cause of the "rivalry" I guess but they're pony
-0-16 v Louth - no goals.

And in the one championship game so far where we've played a d1 team, we scored 1-11 v Roscommon and were absolutely abysmal for 95% of the game.

Defensively we look at 6s and 7s too.

Haven't seen the odds but I'd imagine it's close and it's not based on Dublin in 2023 so far that's for sure, it'll be based purely on the name and occasion, not form cause unless we dog out another 30-40% we aren't getting within 6 points of them."
In attack you have to look at the number of scores from play and the sources. Against Kildare alone 20 points out of 22 from play from 7 different players. 3-19 from play against Sligo, granted it was Sligo but we had 10 different scorers. I'm loving the options up there now, players who can shoot off both feet and good target men also..

Costello
Con
Ciaran
Small
Mannion
Collie (emerging as a real
Player now)

Scully
Deano
O'Gara
Bugler
O'Dell

Some options and danger everywhere. As with every team, we've struggled against the duvet. Mayo generally play more open so I'm hopeful that we get the space to do the damage.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 26/06/2023 16:14:28    2489688

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Hill 16 tickets SOLD OUT already.

Some go a good crowd on both days in fairness.

Was hoping to avoid Mayo & Tyrone tbh but it is what it is...

Derry Armagh Kerry to go through with a slight edge for Mayo in our game.

Mayo v kerry final.????

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4220 - 26/06/2023 20:46:07    2489800

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Replying To Fionn:  "Hill 16 tickets SOLD OUT already.

Some go a good crowd on both days in fairness.

Was hoping to avoid Mayo & Tyrone tbh but it is what it is...

Derry Armagh Kerry to go through with a slight edge for Mayo in our game.

Mayo v kerry final.????"
Ticketmaster currently has no tickets left on sale for the double header on Sunday - looks like the 1st Sell Out of the year....

Plenty of tickets left for the other game it seems, inc the Standing Tickets on the Hill that apparently all counties crave.
;o)

Some great games in store - fab GAA wkend ahead.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4220 - 27/06/2023 08:55:28    2489845

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Replying To Fionn:  "Ticketmaster currently has no tickets left on sale for the double header on Sunday - looks like the 1st Sell Out of the year....

Plenty of tickets left for the other game it seems, inc the Standing Tickets on the Hill that apparently all counties crave.
;o)

Some great games in store - fab GAA wkend ahead."
Before others jump in - I meant 1st Sell Out in Croke Park.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4220 - 27/06/2023 09:26:50    2489859

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For me..

It's now time for Con to step up and truly take Bernards place. He's a remarkable baller but ow it's time to go up to the next level.

He's not a youngster anymore and its time to become a senior leader. Dublin need a BB like performance and Con nees to take it and own the responsibility.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 27/06/2023 10:24:34    2489897

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