Replying To Fionn:  "Without digging up the past and re-igniting the flames so to speak - I have to agree with you about a lot of them being the biggest whingers & begrudgers going, especially when it comes to Dublin. Like all supporters they hate to lose, but unlike most they cannot handle it too well, whether it be Tyrone for example, or Dublin.

The Dubs success of the past decade brought this to the fore in a massive way.
Some have no time for Dublin, a very small few are complimentary, and a few take both sides, compliment on one hand and whinge about funding, playing games in Croke Park and sponsorship on the other hand - when it suits them. The odd slight dig every now and again just to make a point.... And I am sure that works both ways.

I remember growing up and my Dad & Uncle would always say - never trust a kerry man when it comes to football, and they were right. ;o)

I saw if first hand at the recent all Ireland finals and semi finals with kerry. All smiles and howdy before the game but when the game is going against them, their ugly side appears.
Look every county has it but I would definitely say that the past decade brought out the worst of them tbh.
Quite a few Dubs might not like them but we respect their achievements - I am quite sure most of them dont respect ours. Well they might say they do but I doubt it. ;o)
Personally I dont want to see kerry win, but I respect their achievements and even more so the way their Hurlers are doing so well these days. But years of tough defeats has made Dubs be able to accept defeat. I feel it is the opposite for a lot of them. Like in all sports you have to be able to accept defeat even though it hurts, and be able to win graciously and humbly.

And believe me, we were playing in Croke Park when we were winning sweet fanny adam, so that, and the population arguments hold no water for me. The difference this past decade was that we had a once in a lifetime group of players over the period of a decade or so. It will never happen again imo. As for sponsorship they have the largest sponsorship in the country - including a state of the art centre of excellence built foc so I ignore the sponsorship arguments also. Funding helped us of course but you cannot turn a mule into a race horse no matter how much money you throw at it.

Anyway - best not to read a lot their comments regarding Dublin - I try to ignore now after more than a few years of fighting the Dubs corner.
And HS has been a better place for the lack of nonsense that went on here before.

The past 2 years it has died off a little but for some reason the return of Jack, Clucko and Mannion has started it off again. I personally dont think we will win the AI this year, as we will concede too much v the top teams. But you can see that some seem to be concerned about us once more. Which is funny in a way.

This is what rivalry is about but make no mistake - quite a few of them really dont like us and will do anything to belittle our recent achievements. They might respect some of our players but deep down it hurt them massively to see us win 6 in a row and 8 in a decade.

As Jimbo said - these are memories of a lifetime for us Dubs, but also memories for them that they want to erase.

Like I said - not stoking the fire and am no longer interested in wasting my time going back and forward with them.
Time to move on, ignore and chat about other things on HS.

But I do see your point..... ;o) lol"

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Abuse? I thinkmost know where most abuse comes from. Your own ex manager Tommy Lyons was not only abused but was spat at by so called Dublin supporters. You brought up Kerry yesrday and vile stuff and we boiling our own urine etc. I read over the posts and not one poster claimed we would win all ireland. I was the closest saying we might Please God. Again I was looking there are over a thousand posters on Kerry forum and you pick 3 or 4 posters and you post on hs forum trying to turn posters off Kerry. Just because you hate Kerry does nt mean you try turn others. As iive stated anyone can read the forum and it's away more balanced than you portray. Also I have it on good authority that a Dublin footballers Dad posts on the Kerry forum. O suppose he is ante Dub too. What you are tryiing to do is wrong. If you fell out with your neighbour would you turn the rest against that person. I have a friend from Dublin that hates black people because a black person robbed his car
Most car robbers are white but he does nt care. Ah look I've seen many nasty and duty comments from many Dubs but I see that the majority are great supporters. Same on hs there are brilliant Dublin posters. Guys úd love to have a pint with."

Replying To Fionn:  "Hopefully Archer will make it through next year now that the ban was lifted.

I would think Deano is biting at the bit in training knowing that this could more than likely be his, and at least 3 others last year in the blue of Dublin.

He defo needs minutes on the pitch but it depends how the 1/4 final is going."

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Abuse? I thinkmost know where most abuse comes from. Your own ex manager Tommy Lyons was not only abused but was spat at by so called Dublin supporters. You brought up Kerry yesrday and vile stuff and we boiling our own urine etc. I read over the posts and not one poster claimed we would win all ireland. I was the closest saying we might Please God. Again I was looking there are over a thousand posters on Kerry forum and you pick 3 or 4 posters and you post on hs forum trying to turn posters off Kerry. Just because you hate Kerry does nt mean you try turn others. As iive stated anyone can read the forum and it's away more balanced than you portray. Also I have it on good authority that a Dublin footballers Dad posts on the Kerry forum. O suppose he is ante Dub too. What you are tryiing to do is wrong. If you fell out with your neighbour would you turn the rest against that person. I have a friend from Dublin that hates black people because a black person robbed his car
Most car robbers are white but he does nt care. Ah look I've seen many nasty and duty comments from many Dubs but I see that the majority are great supporters. Same on hs there are brilliant Dublin posters. Guys úd love to have a pint with."

Replying To avonali:  "Mick, your post is full of contradictions. "The majority of Dubs are great supporter"s..... yet you assert most of the abuse comes from Dublin supporters. You try to be all things to all men Mick, but when you scratch the veneer you can see your true colours. I've seen the abuse you got on that forum ...you have a short memory."

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I said it was Dub supporters that abused Tommy Lyons. You are twisting things. Anyway pity we not perfect like you and your sidekick. It was you that posted this rubbish first and most of it pure false."

Replying To avonali:  "Yourself and your buddy Hermit are well matched. Most Dubs on here would agree with me."

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "You don't speak for most Dubs thankfully
and fir the record Paidi (r. I. p.) qualified her remarks about animals saying he meant it as a compliment that the supporters were animals for success. As I've stated already you were the bitter person that twisted things and picked a few posts out of thousands. They are all wrong bar my Johnny. Have a good look in the mirror"

Replying To Fionn:  "Without digging up the past and re-igniting the flames so to speak - I have to agree with you about a lot of them being the biggest whingers & begrudgers going, especially when it comes to Dublin. Like all supporters they hate to lose, but unlike most they cannot handle it too well, whether it be Tyrone for example, or Dublin.

The Dubs success of the past decade brought this to the fore in a massive way.
Some have no time for Dublin, a very small few are complimentary, and a few take both sides, compliment on one hand and whinge about funding, playing games in Croke Park and sponsorship on the other hand - when it suits them. The odd slight dig every now and again just to make a point.... And I am sure that works both ways.

I remember growing up and my Dad & Uncle would always say - never trust a kerry man when it comes to football, and they were right. ;o)

I saw if first hand at the recent all Ireland finals and semi finals with kerry. All smiles and howdy before the game but when the game is going against them, their ugly side appears.
Look every county has it but I would definitely say that the past decade brought out the worst of them tbh.
Quite a few Dubs might not like them but we respect their achievements - I am quite sure most of them dont respect ours. Well they might say they do but I doubt it. ;o)
Personally I dont want to see kerry win, but I respect their achievements and even more so the way their Hurlers are doing so well these days. But years of tough defeats has made Dubs be able to accept defeat. I feel it is the opposite for a lot of them. Like in all sports you have to be able to accept defeat even though it hurts, and be able to win graciously and humbly.

And believe me, we were playing in Croke Park when we were winning sweet fanny adam, so that, and the population arguments hold no water for me. The difference this past decade was that we had a once in a lifetime group of players over the period of a decade or so. It will never happen again imo. As for sponsorship they have the largest sponsorship in the country - including a state of the art centre of excellence built foc so I ignore the sponsorship arguments also. Funding helped us of course but you cannot turn a mule into a race horse no matter how much money you throw at it.

Anyway - best not to read a lot their comments regarding Dublin - I try to ignore now after more than a few years of fighting the Dubs corner.
And HS has been a better place for the lack of nonsense that went on here before.

The past 2 years it has died off a little but for some reason the return of Jack, Clucko and Mannion has started it off again. I personally dont think we will win the AI this year, as we will concede too much v the top teams. But you can see that some seem to be concerned about us once more. Which is funny in a way.

This is what rivalry is about but make no mistake - quite a few of them really dont like us and will do anything to belittle our recent achievements. They might respect some of our players but deep down it hurt them massively to see us win 6 in a row and 8 in a decade.

As Jimbo said - these are memories of a lifetime for us Dubs, but also memories for them that they want to erase.

Like I said - not stoking the fire and am no longer interested in wasting my time going back and forward with them.
Time to move on, ignore and chat about other things on HS.

But I do see your point..... ;o) lol"

Replying To avonali:  "Agree with all this. There is no questioning their achievements. There is no questioning of the array of fabulous players they have had, They have been used to success and any county manager that fails to land Sam is deemed a failure. Kerry folk are sore losers but as the chap said: Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Their inability to recognise Dublin's achievement for what it was surprised and disappointed me. The venom with which some of them referred to certain Dublin players was nasty and cowardly.

I wish I was more like Jimbo,- he doesn't give a fig for the naysayers and begrudgers and is happy to bask in our achievement. Fair play to him.

I agree with you on our prospects. I don;t believe Dublin can win an All-Ireland this year. The new defenders lack guile and experience. I'm not sure Mick Fitz is at full tilt. You can't replace the likes of Philly and Jonny. It'll will take a while for the recent introductions to settle in. I am concerned by Cluxton's restarts. There was a time when he got into a rhythm with them and hit his man every time over long periods of a game. That ain't happening anymore. Fenton's form is improving and Howard is going really well. If there any grounds for optimism its the form of Basquel and Con. Scully again will not get you many scores but his grafting and link play -particularly his foot passing- is not what it was though there are signs of a return to form."

Replying To avonali:  "Just to clarify: Most Dubs I know believe that Kerry GAA fans revealed themselves to be ungracious losers indeed once the Dubs began to beat them regularly in Championship games. That remark was not in relation to yourself. I have twisted nothing. Were you on that forum in 2011, 2013, 2015-20 when anti-Dublin sentiment was in full spate, You will have read recent comments there describing ex-Dublin players as s**m and filth- yet you and others said nothing. One poster tried to claim that ex Dublin players dominated media coverage which is total and utter nonsense. Again the bowld Mick said nothing which is surprising. There was a time when you would but I guess you have become rightly wary of the backlash that would incur. You've had your quarrels in there Mick and don't deny it. Now you are in a Dublin GAA thread and quarelling again. Perhaps its yourself that needs to look in the mirror.
Regarding Paidi's remark. He knew it would give offence when it was uttered- he was angry. enough to tell the journalist "you can print that". He later thought the better of it and qualified it.

By the way- your cheap jibe about my Maths is hilarious when you tell us its about 2% of the posters that indulge in anti-Dublin sentiment and then tell us that its only 4 out of 1000s. Glass houses Mick.
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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "More lies agaí. By you Avon. Yes a poster went on about Dublin players in the media but the poster was corrected by yours truly and another couple of poster s but as usual you only read the bits that suit you. You have proved yourself to be untrustworthy and a liar. Read back the forum you are obsessed with and as u say you don't speak for all Dublin supporters thanks be As for insults don't make me laugh. Read all the posts before you make up lies."

Replying To avonali:  "Mick the Hermit was right about you.
Did u challenge the poster that referred to an ex Dublin player as filth. No you didn't. you're very selective in choosing which points to contest and who to pick your battles with.
The word sleveen comes to mind. I want nothing to do with the likes of you."

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "It's not my job to challenge everyone. Sure you can do that. Sure continue to be a peeping Tom and then run back to tell everyone else lies. Two legs good four legs bad."

Replying To avonali:  "Mick the Hermit was right about you.
Did u challenge the poster that referred to an ex Dublin player as filth. No you didn't. you're very selective in choosing which points to contest and who to pick your battles with.
The word sleveen comes to mind. I want nothing to do with the likes of you."

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "My final post to you. Hermit might be a poor poster but he gives his opinions not lies like you. You chose to pick one or two posters and pretend the Kerry forum are all doing it which is totally untrue. I have no time for liars and that is what you are!"

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Biggest game for our hurlers in ten years, and we have a personal squabble!"

Replying To Fionn:  "Are you nervous or excited about the game Barney.?

I am excited, as I am not expecting a win.

I was nervous before the Galway game tbh.

All in all I think this year has been a positive step for our Hurlers and Management team."

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I'm looking forward to it, both games. Been a few years since we had a day out on big hurling day and we usually do well. Some great days including beating Limerick Thurles twice and Galway in Tullamore.

Odds against us on Saturday but they'll be well prepared I think so Clare will not be getting anything handy although you'd imagine they'll have a bit in hand. One thing i be hopeful of is that defence has been very tight so far and conceded just 3 goals in 6 matches, huge turn around on recent years. The Galway one was a bit of a mess really as Eoghan O'D was changing his boot at the time on sideline!

So if they can restrict Clare that way and turn it into a dog fight and be still there going into last quarter I'd nearly fancy them as they've finished well in all games. Certainly won't run out of steam for sure."