National Forum

Leitrim GAA thread

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To thedreamer:  "Beat Sligo first which You haven't a hope of doing. They are a way better team and you guys talk some load of rubbish on here. You are not getting out of Div 4."
A decent time to remind you Sligo may not get promoted either. We shall see how way better they are won't we? And if there's such rubbish talked here, I'm sure there is a suitable thread for your own county to have in depth and cutting analysis on. Thanks very much!

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/03/2022 15:17:03    2406241

Link

Replying To kentuckytucky:  "A decent time to remind you Sligo may not get promoted either. We shall see how way better they are won't we? And if there's such rubbish talked here, I'm sure there is a suitable thread for your own county to have in depth and cutting analysis on. Thanks very much!"
Good man. Sligo won't be promoted either. Cavan and Tipp done and dusted for promotion. We know our place and the results tell us we are to remain in div 4.

thedreamer (Sligo) - Posts: 10 - 21/03/2022 16:59:57    2406293

Link

I cannot see us being promoted as I can only see Tipp and Cavan winning their games and both counties going up. I do think the bizzare decision to play London away from home in Mayo cost us a genuine shot at promotion against Sligo in the final game, we had 4 home games and 3 away games so in effect we decided to play 5 away games and 2 home games that is madness. Now the powers that be agreed to this and I can only think that they expected to beat London regardless of the location or conditions but the entire country was in an orange weather warning and other games in division 4 were postponed - ours should have been too. The county board and management need to take this on board into the future- home games are home games not away ones and the storm turned that game into a 50/50 one.

The positives are that Moran for a first time inter county manager has done very well. We are racking up some big scores and that forward line are really ticking along nicely. Pearce Dolan has been magnificent at midfield all league and looks to be fulfilling his obvious potential, Keith is only getting better and Ryan is top class. Paul keaney made a few appearances and looked the genuine article he is definitely a future big player for us. Defence is a concern and hopefully Andy can develop this over the next year. It looks like Longford and Wicklow will be dropping down next year to division 4 and certainly are they are not of the calibre or Cavan or Tipp that were there this year. For a rookie manager the team have been motoring very impressively bar the London slip up and I'd have genuine belief that another year under their belt next year will gain promotion. The tailteann cup is where we will end up and I have definitely seen enough during the league to suggest we could have a long summer yet in that competition. I wouldn't fear any team in division three.

Also the county board should demand that we have 4 home games next year and only 3 away as definitely over the last 6-7 years we have had 4 away and 3 home bar the year we won promotion. It would be good if someone could look this up but I believe it to be true. Enough is enough.

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 527 - 21/03/2022 19:44:03    2406326

Link

Replying To thedreamer:  "Beat Sligo first which You haven't a hope of doing. They are a way better team and you guys talk some load of rubbish on here. You are not getting out of Div 4."
Apt username... and neither are ye.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 359 - 21/03/2022 21:35:26    2406343

Link

Green man you took a glass half empty assessment of Sunday's performance, to win with Keith at 50% of his usual input is massively positive. The centre back area you claim was open only happened on cheap turnovers. Conor Farrell with the yellow card being his only blemish played excellently in my opinion. Turned over plenty of possession. Team is evolving as the game evolves. Gone are the days of Seamie Moynihan or Kieran McGeeney dominating that half back line area where teams feared to enter. The attacks now a days are bombardment of that area with multiple runners and in my opinion the covering back of the half forwards and midfielders has shown a great ability from Dara, Mark, Pearse, Domhnall and Donal to give the essential dig out to the defence. Expecting a dominant figure from Leitrim in that area where there are none nationally is mad. We finally had everyone working for each other. Pearse was majestic, never saw Mark cover the ground he did last Sunday, backs rarely left holes at the rear but when they did even Shane Moran (leaner than ever before) and others filled the void. Our wastefulness up front kept this game alive longer than you would prefer but the character shown to finish it out with excellent cameos from Paddy, Jack and Conor. Seeing Ciaran Cullen and Conor Farrell getting good game time and doing well is great for the panel. Hope Tom's injury isn't too serious as this was the only negative for me. Andy and his backroom team deserve huge credit for transforming the mindset within the panel as no point saying under Hyland things were better, 2019 league was good and then disaster in the championship. I see a panel growing in confidence, workrate all over is immense and a spirit that has been lacking for many a year. Ryan typified that last Sunday with a very poor first 55 mins but his last 15 was excellent. That's not in too many players lockers to turn around a poor performance to finish so strong. Great to see. Diffley, Reynolds n Casey all did very well, wouldn't like to see that line changed in a hurry. Casey is a gem, plays with the maturity of a lad playing the game at that level 10 years. Diffley is growing into a solid defender. He grew into the game and probably had to mark their liveliest player. Reynolds brings superb energy and steel to the team.
Shane Quinn, James Rooney and most certainly Paddy MaGuire can dislodge some of the team that started but their performances can not drop to 80% if they are going to keep them off the team. Great complaint to have. Midfield cover is a bit worrying. Wrynn must start every game but his fielding and lack of speed might mean midfield might not be his best position. Hope one or two others start pushing for that position. Maxwell has surprised me, he dealt with everything last Sunday spot on. Good decision making, kickouts were excellent. And we know the cover is good for that position. Overall way more positives than negatives. I foresee 9 lads fighting for defensive positions with little between them and 12 lads (our starting 6 plus Jack, Tom, Emlyn, Conor, Riordan, Keaney also Evan is back) fighting for forward berths. Great to see. Really wish 1 more midfielder (Dean could if he got a bit fitter) would push the 2 lads a bit more. London game now takes precedent over everything. We have a panel that I think will overcome them, looking forward to it.

po3nmotion (Leitrim) - Posts: 221 - 22/03/2022 08:23:37    2406351

Link

1. Cavan 10 pts (+17)
2. Tipperary 9 pts (+12)
3. Sligo 8 pts (+34)
4. Leitrim 8 pts (+20)

If Tipperary lose:
- Cavan will top division and get promoted without kicking a ball;
- The winner of Sligo vs Leitrim will also go up. If it's a draw, the three-way tie for 2nd place will be decided by scoring difference thus: 2nd Sligo, 3rd Leitrim, 4th Tipperary.

If Tipperary draw:
- Cavan will ...
And there I stopped when I looked at the fixtures page and saw this:
Saturday 26 March
Tipperary v London, FBD Semple Stadium, 7pm
Cavan v Waterford, Kingspan Breffni, 6pm
Carlow v Wexford, Netwatch Cullen Park, 1pm

Sunday 27 March
Sligo v Leitrim, Markievicz Park, 1pm

We'll kinda know our fate on Saturday night.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 777 - 22/03/2022 15:50:20    2406520

Link

Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "1. Cavan 10 pts (+17)
2. Tipperary 9 pts (+12)
3. Sligo 8 pts (+34)
4. Leitrim 8 pts (+20)

If Tipperary lose:
- Cavan will top division and get promoted without kicking a ball;
- The winner of Sligo vs Leitrim will also go up. If it's a draw, the three-way tie for 2nd place will be decided by scoring difference thus: 2nd Sligo, 3rd Leitrim, 4th Tipperary.

If Tipperary draw:
- Cavan will ...
And there I stopped when I looked at the fixtures page and saw this:
Saturday 26 March
Tipperary v London, FBD Semple Stadium, 7pm
Cavan v Waterford, Kingspan Breffni, 6pm
Carlow v Wexford, Netwatch Cullen Park, 1pm

Sunday 27 March
Sligo v Leitrim, Markievicz Park, 1pm

We'll kinda know our fate on Saturday night."
Knew sligo and leitrims fate before a ball was kicked ,the 2 teams together wouldnt beat roscommon ,mayo or galway cause there *****,but leitrim will beat sligo ,and sligo will get bet by new york

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 201 - 22/03/2022 16:12:14    2406531

Link

Replying To po3nmotion:  "Green man you took a glass half empty assessment of Sunday's performance, to win with Keith at 50% of his usual input is massively positive. The centre back area you claim was open only happened on cheap turnovers. Conor Farrell with the yellow card being his only blemish played excellently in my opinion. Turned over plenty of possession. Team is evolving as the game evolves. Gone are the days of Seamie Moynihan or Kieran McGeeney dominating that half back line area where teams feared to enter. The attacks now a days are bombardment of that area with multiple runners and in my opinion the covering back of the half forwards and midfielders has shown a great ability from Dara, Mark, Pearse, Domhnall and Donal to give the essential dig out to the defence. Expecting a dominant figure from Leitrim in that area where there are none nationally is mad. We finally had everyone working for each other. Pearse was majestic, never saw Mark cover the ground he did last Sunday, backs rarely left holes at the rear but when they did even Shane Moran (leaner than ever before) and others filled the void. Our wastefulness up front kept this game alive longer than you would prefer but the character shown to finish it out with excellent cameos from Paddy, Jack and Conor. Seeing Ciaran Cullen and Conor Farrell getting good game time and doing well is great for the panel. Hope Tom's injury isn't too serious as this was the only negative for me. Andy and his backroom team deserve huge credit for transforming the mindset within the panel as no point saying under Hyland things were better, 2019 league was good and then disaster in the championship. I see a panel growing in confidence, workrate all over is immense and a spirit that has been lacking for many a year. Ryan typified that last Sunday with a very poor first 55 mins but his last 15 was excellent. That's not in too many players lockers to turn around a poor performance to finish so strong. Great to see. Diffley, Reynolds n Casey all did very well, wouldn't like to see that line changed in a hurry. Casey is a gem, plays with the maturity of a lad playing the game at that level 10 years. Diffley is growing into a solid defender. He grew into the game and probably had to mark their liveliest player. Reynolds brings superb energy and steel to the team.
Shane Quinn, James Rooney and most certainly Paddy MaGuire can dislodge some of the team that started but their performances can not drop to 80% if they are going to keep them off the team. Great complaint to have. Midfield cover is a bit worrying. Wrynn must start every game but his fielding and lack of speed might mean midfield might not be his best position. Hope one or two others start pushing for that position. Maxwell has surprised me, he dealt with everything last Sunday spot on. Good decision making, kickouts were excellent. And we know the cover is good for that position. Overall way more positives than negatives. I foresee 9 lads fighting for defensive positions with little between them and 12 lads (our starting 6 plus Jack, Tom, Emlyn, Conor, Riordan, Keaney also Evan is back) fighting for forward berths. Great to see. Really wish 1 more midfielder (Dean could if he got a bit fitter) would push the 2 lads a bit more. London game now takes precedent over everything. We have a panel that I think will overcome them, looking forward to it."
Excellent assessment of Wexford game which was our toughest so far. Keith and Ryan had a tough day shooting wides that would normally go over. Perfect test for Sunday's game . Our defence was excellent against Wexford and it will be interesting to learn how Andy sets out his stall. Does he start a Championship 15 or give game time to Shane,Conor,Evan(great he's back)Riordan and Jack.
Plenty of positives for the future.

leitrimabu1 (Leitrim) - Posts: 88 - 22/03/2022 16:14:09    2406533

Link

Replying To leitrimabu1:  "Excellent assessment of Wexford game which was our toughest so far. Keith and Ryan had a tough day shooting wides that would normally go over. Perfect test for Sunday's game . Our defence was excellent against Wexford and it will be interesting to learn how Andy sets out his stall. Does he start a Championship 15 or give game time to Shane,Conor,Evan(great he's back)Riordan and Jack.
Plenty of positives for the future."
Lots of positives as you say. Hopefully beat London and avoid an absolute mauling against Mayo or Galway in the next round.

Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 207 - 24/03/2022 08:53:28    2406775

Link

So now the other three div 4 games are on the Saturday, all different times. And the Leitrim game is the only one on the Sunday. This is the only division that all the games aren't on at the same time. It is a perfect example of what the GAA thinks of 'weaker' counties and how this new Teacup competition will play out.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 24/03/2022 10:05:34    2406784

Link

Replying To kentuckytucky:  "So now the other three div 4 games are on the Saturday, all different times. And the Leitrim game is the only one on the Sunday. This is the only division that all the games aren't on at the same time. It is a perfect example of what the GAA thinks of 'weaker' counties and how this new Teacup competition will play out."
I wouldnt panic ,leitrim probably getting promoted in the hurling and isnt that far better

Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 201 - 24/03/2022 10:47:56    2406792

Link

Replying To kentuckytucky:  "So now the other three div 4 games are on the Saturday, all different times. And the Leitrim game is the only one on the Sunday. This is the only division that all the games aren't on at the same time. It is a perfect example of what the GAA thinks of 'weaker' counties and how this new Teacup competition will play out."
To be fair, on a number of levels there's reasons for that. There's no relegation, only promotion games. That automatically excludes most of the teams from having something to play for. And a Tipperary win makes it all moot either way. And London have to travel back, important for them to have their game at a time that allows them to get an available flight home at a decent time that's not late Sunday night. It really doesn't matter either way, everyone knows the scenarios and playing all at the same time doesn't change that much. It should be, but there's reasons

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1866 - 24/03/2022 11:13:19    2406798

Link

Replying To Timmy86:  "I wouldnt panic ,leitrim probably getting promoted in the hurling and isnt that far better"
Who is panicking? I'm sure for hurling folk that is a great achievement indeed. Thanks for that.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 24/03/2022 11:31:28    2406807

Link

Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "To be fair, on a number of levels there's reasons for that. There's no relegation, only promotion games. That automatically excludes most of the teams from having something to play for. And a Tipperary win makes it all moot either way. And London have to travel back, important for them to have their game at a time that allows them to get an available flight home at a decent time that's not late Sunday night. It really doesn't matter either way, everyone knows the scenarios and playing all at the same time doesn't change that much. It should be, but there's reasons"
Half the division have something to play for. And don't you think Tipperary would be under greater pressure if they heard games going on at the same time in other places were not beneficial to their outcome? If London are unable to be treated the same as every other county in the league, then they shouldn't be involved in the competition at all. There's similar journey times for teams in the northern end of the country to the southern end as they have.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 24/03/2022 12:02:58    2406818

Link

Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Half the division have something to play for. And don't you think Tipperary would be under greater pressure if they heard games going on at the same time in other places were not beneficial to their outcome? If London are unable to be treated the same as every other county in the league, then they shouldn't be involved in the competition at all. There's similar journey times for teams in the northern end of the country to the southern end as they have."
No I really don't. It's on Tipp, you hardly think they're going to fill their togs of they hear that either of Sligo or Leitrim are winning? It's in their hands, not in others.

Can't agree. We see from this year that they add a lot. A few concessions here and there are no odds. I was over there last week for the Cavan game, and it's a great set-up, with a lot of local Gaels there. The game was at 12 to allow Cavan team to get back at a decent hour. A few concessions here and there to allow them to play are not a big deal. Driving across country is not teh same as getting to an airport after a game, waiting your 2 hours, flight, and then drive home from airport after. No need to be silly, it's a small thing that can be accommodated. And it should be

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1866 - 24/03/2022 12:48:49    2406835

Link

Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "No I really don't. It's on Tipp, you hardly think they're going to fill their togs of they hear that either of Sligo or Leitrim are winning? It's in their hands, not in others.

Can't agree. We see from this year that they add a lot. A few concessions here and there are no odds. I was over there last week for the Cavan game, and it's a great set-up, with a lot of local Gaels there. The game was at 12 to allow Cavan team to get back at a decent hour. A few concessions here and there to allow them to play are not a big deal. Driving across country is not teh same as getting to an airport after a game, waiting your 2 hours, flight, and then drive home from airport after. No need to be silly, it's a small thing that can be accommodated. And it should be"
I don't care whether they fill their togs or not, that is their own business literally and figuratively. Why has every other division games at the same time then? These fixtures are made months ago, they could find a suitable flight for their games and have the match at the same time as all the rest, this is a change from last week where the other three games were at the same time. That won't be pawned on me. The concession is every game in div 4 is on at a different time, and I don't see a valid explanation for that and that's final.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 24/03/2022 14:49:10    2406863

Link

Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "To be fair, on a number of levels there's reasons for that. There's no relegation, only promotion games. That automatically excludes most of the teams from having something to play for. And a Tipperary win makes it all moot either way. And London have to travel back, important for them to have their game at a time that allows them to get an available flight home at a decent time that's not late Sunday night. It really doesn't matter either way, everyone knows the scenarios and playing all at the same time doesn't change that much. It should be, but there's reasons"
The problem is if Tipp win Saturday evening the Sligo Leitrim becomes a challenge game. If the games are played simultaneously the game is a must win for both surely you can comprehend the difference.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 61 - 24/03/2022 15:57:24    2406878

Link

Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "To be fair, on a number of levels there's reasons for that. There's no relegation, only promotion games. That automatically excludes most of the teams from having something to play for. And a Tipperary win makes it all moot either way. And London have to travel back, important for them to have their game at a time that allows them to get an available flight home at a decent time that's not late Sunday night. It really doesn't matter either way, everyone knows the scenarios and playing all at the same time doesn't change that much. It should be, but there's reasons"
The problem is if Tipp win Saturday evening the Sligo Leitrim becomes a challenge game. If the games are played simultaneously the game is a must win for both surely you can comprehend the difference.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 61 - 24/03/2022 15:58:08    2406879

Link

Replying To kentuckytucky:  "I don't care whether they fill their togs or not, that is their own business literally and figuratively. Why has every other division games at the same time then? These fixtures are made months ago, they could find a suitable flight for their games and have the match at the same time as all the rest, this is a change from last week where the other three games were at the same time. That won't be pawned on me. The concession is every game in div 4 is on at a different time, and I don't see a valid explanation for that and that's final."
I literally made the points up above, it really is different in Division 4 for those reasons. And as I said, it doesn't matter what Tipperary do, you'd have to do your job anyway just in case, so it makes no difference. It's all in their hands

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1866 - 24/03/2022 15:59:23    2406881

Link

Seems like the Tipp/London game is fixed for Saturday at 7pm due to flight restrictions that London have. This has been stated on the record. This reason alone is having massive repercussions on the fixture schedule in the final round.

Logic follows that the Leitrim/London game that was fixed for carrick but moved to mayo was moved to accommodate London flight schedules also. This is when the other games in the division were postponed due to an orange weather warning. If this is the case then the GAA need to take a hard look at London fixtures in the future, by all means include and accommodate them- but paramount is that all counties and teams are treated fairly.

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 527 - 24/03/2022 17:43:57    2406918

Link