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It isn't how much you raise is the point I think, it is how efficiently the funds are used. Can we say the funds are being used adequately at underage level for example? That is the question as Bill Shakespeare once wrote.
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Best of luck to the lads today. While it's very unlikely Tipperary will slip up now all we can do is win our games and hope for the best. Wexford will be a very tough opponent no doubt ,we'll need to be at our best to win. Hoping for a good crowd today.
JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 182 - 20/03/2022 10:33:40
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The Leitrim training jersey is a thing of beauty!
McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 67 - 20/03/2022 13:00:08
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Lucky to get the win today, two scrappy goals but nice to see them go our way. We looked a bit complacent heading into the second half, but I suppose dug deep in the end and got the win. We looked much more dangerous with the two man full forward line after Shane Moran came off. Please Dolan was excellent, and Donal Casey very good too. Hope we can get the win against Sligo next week and keep the pressure on Tipp
MagnumPIG (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 20/03/2022 17:04:29
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Tipperary have an unfair advantage next weekend with their last game against London the day before everyone else, I'm sure their manager will be upset at such an advantage.
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/03/2022 08:15:57
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Replying To kentuckytucky: "Tipperary have an unfair advantage next weekend with their last game against London the day before everyone else, I'm sure their manager will be upset at such an advantage." Don't think it matters, can't see Tipperary slipping now. Poor enough performance yesterday, Keith was well Marshalled and our decision making up front was very poor at times . Pearce Dolan was excellent as was young Ciaran Cullen and good to see Ryan O Rourke coming back into form. Got a good impact from the bench with Paddy Maguire, Jack Heslin and Conor Cullen making positive impacts. Good to see Shane Moran back although he was very rusty yesterday. Defensively still wide open we're lucky Wexford we're wasteful and overplayed the ball when they got openings . Good to get the win but will need to be much better in Sligo next Sunday.
JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 182 - 21/03/2022 09:58:07
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Replying To JimmyNail: "Don't think it matters, can't see Tipperary slipping now. Poor enough performance yesterday, Keith was well Marshalled and our decision making up front was very poor at times . Pearce Dolan was excellent as was young Ciaran Cullen and good to see Ryan O Rourke coming back into form. Got a good impact from the bench with Paddy Maguire, Jack Heslin and Conor Cullen making positive impacts. Good to see Shane Moran back although he was very rusty yesterday. Defensively still wide open we're lucky Wexford we're wasteful and overplayed the ball when they got openings . Good to get the win but will need to be much better in Sligo next Sunday." Of course it matters, they are under less pressure because they won't be hearing back results of other games happening at the same time.
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/03/2022 10:03:56
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Replying To kentuckytucky: "Tipperary have an unfair advantage next weekend with their last game against London the day before everyone else, I'm sure their manager will be upset at such an advantage." Are we running a bus to Semple to cheer on London?! They can really blow hot and cold. It's mad to think they nearly pulled Cavan back in to scrapping for promotion. They are obviously playing for championship places themselves but Its hard to not feel like the writing is on the wall for more Div 4 next year.
Defense is certainly an issue. Particularly when teams go route one into a big man full forward.
But it's good to see our overall performances are improving with each game heading into championship. A win against Sligo win is important for momentum and for the players to at least feel they did eveything they could to put the thing right after the London game.
Mugatay (Leitrim) - Posts: 157 - 21/03/2022 10:57:43
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Replying To kentuckytucky: "Of course it matters, they are under less pressure because they won't be hearing back results of other games happening at the same time." Of course it matters, they are under less pressure because they won't be hearing back results of other games happening at the same time.
kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 94 - 21/03/2022 10:03:56
No it doesn't its more like the other way around where the other teams will be wondering how Tipp are getting on.
RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 847 - 21/03/2022 10:58:58
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Replying To Mugatay: "Are we running a bus to Semple to cheer on London?! They can really blow hot and cold. It's mad to think they nearly pulled Cavan back in to scrapping for promotion. They are obviously playing for championship places themselves but Its hard to not feel like the writing is on the wall for more Div 4 next year.
Defense is certainly an issue. Particularly when teams go route one into a big man full forward.
But it's good to see our overall performances are improving with each game heading into championship. A win against Sligo win is important for momentum and for the players to at least feel they did eveything they could to put the thing right after the London game." I'm not sure if we have a bus going or not, I doubt the county board would organise one in fairness. I haven't heard of it happening before.
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/03/2022 11:46:24
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Replying To RHF: "Of course it matters, they are under less pressure because they won't be hearing back results of other games happening at the same time.
kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 94 - 21/03/2022 10:03:56
No it doesn't its more like the other way around where the other teams will be wondering how Tipp are getting on." They won't have to wonder, they'll know already!
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/03/2022 11:47:12
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Grasping at straws here but if Tipp win, then we are relying on the unlikely event of Waterford beating Cavan? Would it come down to score difference or head to head? (Obviously assuming we beat Sligo fingers crossed!)
To be fair, Waterford haven't been beaten out the gate by any team so we'll still have hope come Sunday!
Mugatay (Leitrim) - Posts: 157 - 21/03/2022 12:03:28
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Andy is doing a great job so far, and will have the team at a good pitch for the Sligo game. I think ye will win it with a bit to spare.
Keephimthere (Roscommon) - Posts: 97 - 21/03/2022 12:30:20
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Very patchy performance against Wexford yesterday. We would have been beaten against a better team with that performance even though it was obvious to see we were the better side.
We created a lot of chances and with better execution we would have scored atleast two more goals. We kicked numerous easy wides and in the first half our delivery into the forward line at times was inept. Keith Beirne had an off day which will happen to every player now and then and thankfully in Ryan O'Rourke we have another top class forward who pulled the game out of the bag for us.
Pearce Dolan has been our player of the league in my opinion. He finally looks the player the Aughawillan people have been preaching about for so long. He must have caught 5 clean balls from kick outs yesterday, took one off our own line and his delivery into the forward line was excellent. He seems to have put on a lot of muscle which is helping him a lot.
I thought Donal Casey was superb at full back aswell. On numerous occasions he defended brilliantly when others seemed lost.
Mark Plunkett was also very good throughout the game apart from one poor turnover in the second half.
This was always going to be the case with so many young players and a completely new backroom team this year but it seems as if Moran is nowhere near sure of his starting team especially in defence.
In our first game against Cavan it looked as if we had a defensive system in place that could be hard to break down but since then in each game we are coughing up a serious amount of goal scoring chances which we will be punished for against better quality teams.
Out of the Goalkeeper and 6 defenders who started against Cavan only 3 started yesterday (Casey, Bruen and Diffley) Casey has also moved from Centre Back to Full back and Bruen from corner back to centre back with Diffley moving to the corner. Along with this Dean McGovern started the Cavan game as sweeper but that role is now taken up by Domhnail Flynn. Some of the players who began the league aren't even getting game time now.
I understand the management are only getting to know the panel of players but this seems like a lot of change in our defence and it is showing in how we are performing.
I thought Ciaran Cullen was good for a young player on his first start yesterday and will grow into the role. His pace is a great out ball and he should be persisted with and given time to develop into that position.
From what I have seen Centre Back remains the main area where we are really struggling and have been for years. Mark Plunkett was probably our best player in this position when Hyland tried him there in his first year but he is too good further up the field to go back to 6.
Domhnail Flynn is excellent on the ball and a strong man but in my opinion he can't cover the ground necessary to be a sweeper. That means we are seriously open down the middle as Flynn isn't covering sufficiently and Bruen is not used to playing at 6 and lacks experience at arguably the main position on the field. I've always thought that both Shane Quinn is our best option at sweeper as he has a great engine as uses the ball well and I'm not sure why he is also out of favour but Fergal McTague should be looked at in the full back line as we have been lacking power and someone to purely man mark. I also thought fullback was Conor Farrell's most comfortable position as he looked at sea at times yesterday at wing back both positionally and because lacks pace. He was very lucky not to be sent off yesterday.
We are going to need to find someone to quieten Niall Murphy next week anyway.
We are now at a standard where when we play poorly in Division four games we win which older supporters will tell you was defiantly not the case for a long long time. There's great potential in this group and some of our forward play is so good to watch. Hopefully the group can tighten up in a few areas before the London game and then go on a run in the tier 2 championship. There won't be too many teams to really fear in it.
GreenMan94 (Leitrim) - Posts: 29 - 21/03/2022 12:48:02
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Replying To Mugatay: "Grasping at straws here but if Tipp win, then we are relying on the unlikely event of Waterford beating Cavan? Would it come down to score difference or head to head? (Obviously assuming we beat Sligo fingers crossed!)
To be fair, Waterford haven't been beaten out the gate by any team so we'll still have hope come Sunday!" Be head to head if only two teams level on points so Cavan have that. If Tipperary drew ,Cavan lost and we could beat Sligo it would be a three way tie and scoring difference comes in to it then. Sligo need the same too. Think it's gone for us now unfortunately.
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Replying To kentuckytucky: "They won't have to wonder, they'll know already!" They won't have to wonder, they'll know already!
kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 97 - 21/03/2022 11:47:12
And that will suit them
RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 847 - 21/03/2022 13:59:48
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Replying To Mugatay: "Grasping at straws here but if Tipp win, then we are relying on the unlikely event of Waterford beating Cavan? Would it come down to score difference or head to head? (Obviously assuming we beat Sligo fingers crossed!)
To be fair, Waterford haven't been beaten out the gate by any team so we'll still have hope come Sunday!" Beat Sligo first which You haven't a hope of doing. They are a way better team and you guys talk some load of rubbish on here. You are not getting out of Div 4.
thedreamer (Sligo) - Posts: 52 - 21/03/2022 14:23:33
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Replying To GreenMan94: "Very patchy performance against Wexford yesterday. We would have been beaten against a better team with that performance even though it was obvious to see we were the better side.
We created a lot of chances and with better execution we would have scored atleast two more goals. We kicked numerous easy wides and in the first half our delivery into the forward line at times was inept. Keith Beirne had an off day which will happen to every player now and then and thankfully in Ryan O'Rourke we have another top class forward who pulled the game out of the bag for us.
Pearce Dolan has been our player of the league in my opinion. He finally looks the player the Aughawillan people have been preaching about for so long. He must have caught 5 clean balls from kick outs yesterday, took one off our own line and his delivery into the forward line was excellent. He seems to have put on a lot of muscle which is helping him a lot.
I thought Donal Casey was superb at full back aswell. On numerous occasions he defended brilliantly when others seemed lost.
Mark Plunkett was also very good throughout the game apart from one poor turnover in the second half.
This was always going to be the case with so many young players and a completely new backroom team this year but it seems as if Moran is nowhere near sure of his starting team especially in defence.
In our first game against Cavan it looked as if we had a defensive system in place that could be hard to break down but since then in each game we are coughing up a serious amount of goal scoring chances which we will be punished for against better quality teams.
Out of the Goalkeeper and 6 defenders who started against Cavan only 3 started yesterday (Casey, Bruen and Diffley) Casey has also moved from Centre Back to Full back and Bruen from corner back to centre back with Diffley moving to the corner. Along with this Dean McGovern started the Cavan game as sweeper but that role is now taken up by Domhnail Flynn. Some of the players who began the league aren't even getting game time now.
I understand the management are only getting to know the panel of players but this seems like a lot of change in our defence and it is showing in how we are performing.
I thought Ciaran Cullen was good for a young player on his first start yesterday and will grow into the role. His pace is a great out ball and he should be persisted with and given time to develop into that position.
From what I have seen Centre Back remains the main area where we are really struggling and have been for years. Mark Plunkett was probably our best player in this position when Hyland tried him there in his first year but he is too good further up the field to go back to 6.
Domhnail Flynn is excellent on the ball and a strong man but in my opinion he can't cover the ground necessary to be a sweeper. That means we are seriously open down the middle as Flynn isn't covering sufficiently and Bruen is not used to playing at 6 and lacks experience at arguably the main position on the field. I've always thought that both Shane Quinn is our best option at sweeper as he has a great engine as uses the ball well and I'm not sure why he is also out of favour but Fergal McTague should be looked at in the full back line as we have been lacking power and someone to purely man mark. I also thought fullback was Conor Farrell's most comfortable position as he looked at sea at times yesterday at wing back both positionally and because lacks pace. He was very lucky not to be sent off yesterday.
We are going to need to find someone to quieten Niall Murphy next week anyway.
We are now at a standard where when we play poorly in Division four games we win which older supporters will tell you was defiantly not the case for a long long time. There's great potential in this group and some of our forward play is so good to watch. Hopefully the group can tighten up in a few areas before the London game and then go on a run in the tier 2 championship. There won't be too many teams to really fear in it." Thanks a million for that. (And to magnumPIG earlier) It's great for those of us who couldn't make the game and want to know how the team selection is evolving.
Mugatay (Leitrim) - Posts: 157 - 21/03/2022 14:45:42
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Replying To JimmyNail: "Be head to head if only two teams level on points so Cavan have that. If Tipperary drew ,Cavan lost and we could beat Sligo it would be a three way tie and scoring difference comes in to it then. Sligo need the same too. Think it's gone for us now unfortunately." "So you're telling me there's a chance!" ...That's the movie quote that comes to mind unfortunately .
Thanks for clearing that up though. Stranger things have happened ! Liatroim abú
Mugatay (Leitrim) - Posts: 157 - 21/03/2022 14:50:19
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Replying To thedreamer: "Beat Sligo first which You haven't a hope of doing. They are a way better team and you guys talk some load of rubbish on here. You are not getting out of Div 4." Likewise
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