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Enjoying the Kerry supporter meltdown about the refereeing performance yesterday. Life comes at you fast after last year and Sean Hurson!!

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1539 - 31/07/2023 22:03:15    2498240

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Can't understand how people are still on about michael Daly is he not injured plus he was in with county for few years not a county footballer Barry mchugh has got lots chances not good enough either can't stay bringing back same players every year for the sake of it ,,"
I think we all know Barry McHugh will never shoot the lights out from general play but what you get is a very reliable free-taker unlike Shane Walsh and Matt Tierney (to a lesser extent). In very close games like the Armagh and Mayo games this year, having a reliable free-taker makes a big difference. Just some other observations about Galway this year - why were so many of the players including key players (it has been estimated up to 10) either out injured or carrying injuries into games? Contrast that with Dublin or Kerry who were practically injury free bar maybe 1 or 2? Surely that is an S&C issue. Also a GAA journalist once wrote that for to be successful, every county needs what he called a certain amount of "leaders", "bleeders" and "feeders". Leaders stood up, got on the ball and drove the team forward when things went against the team or heads started to drop (Gary Fahey, Kevin Walsh and Ja Fallon were examples of that from the 1998 / 2001 team), bleeders put their bodies on the line and won "dirty ball" etc. (Tomás Mannion and John Divilly were examples) and feeders were the fast, skillful players who linked up play, took scores etc. (Michael Donnellan, Declan Meehan, Sean Óg de Paor, Padraig Joyce and Derek Savage were examples). I don't think the Galway footballers have enough of that mix of players currently.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 01/08/2023 09:56:59    2498273

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Enjoying the Kerry supporter meltdown about the refereeing performance yesterday. Life comes at you fast after last year and Sean Hurson!!"
That free against Daly still baffles me.
I haven't seen it given against a defender before or since. Anyway Kerry definitely got the rub of the green that day and I wouldn't have been very happy with some calls in the semi final if I was a derry fan. That phantom free Stephen O'brien got had them in the final.

Interesting to hear Darran O'Sullivan say last night that he still has Kerry as No.1 for next year.
I just have a feeling there's an Ulster wave coming again like the early 90s and 00s.
Derry, Monaghan are coming with youth, the Canavans will be around for another 10 years.

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 01/08/2023 10:25:56    2498287

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Replying To backtooldwall:  "It's an enormous ask for any goalkeeper to replicate Cluxton as he has been the greatest influence on football in the T.V . age, I can't go back any further. in the earlier time members of the full back line often took kick outs and the sole aim was to kick as far as possible and let the middle line players fight for it.Cluxton was the one who made safe retention restarts the foundation for his teams next attack.He started to play short to the corners ,or chipped to the wings, left balls in space for a team mate to run onto and when teams got a handle on all that he can pick out his best fielding team mate with a long one.All of this was new and innovative at the time and the rest are still trying to play catchup."
I've seen Cluxton a good few times live and there's probably 20 elements to why it works so well.
1. His speed of getting set up.
2. His accuracy off the tee.
3. His ability to change which side he kicks to in 2 steps.
4. His ability to disguise the kick.
5. His trust in the receiver.
6. The way they bunch and have the power then to get out in front of their man when making the run.
7. Their choreographed and planned blocking of opposition runners. I've no issue with it.
8. Their holding of opposition players off the ball. I've no issue with it.
And many others.
Most of all I would say, the above doesn't happen by accident, I would say the 100s of hours on the training pitch and 22 years with the same keeper helps.
How many championship keepers have Galway had since Cluxtons debut. I would say Brian O'Donoghue, Paul Doherty, Manus Breathnach, Adrian Flaherty, Ruairi Lavelle, Bernard Power, Tom Healy, Ronan O'Beolain are all younger than Cluxton

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 01/08/2023 10:36:42    2498292

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Replying To smallfrank:  "How far away are we lads. Watching that yesterday I dont think we could have lived with either team.
We are crying out for a young forward to come through. I think we have options at the back and in midfield."
Sure we lived with Kerry last year. The final was level on 66 minutes. And Clifford had a much better shooting day last year. Galway just have to come back next year. Hopefully everyone available unlike this year and they'll be there or thereabouts.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2116 - 01/08/2023 19:34:38    2498456

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Replying To tommy k:  "I think we all know Barry McHugh will never shoot the lights out from general play but what you get is a very reliable free-taker unlike Shane Walsh and Matt Tierney (to a lesser extent). In very close games like the Armagh and Mayo games this year, having a reliable free-taker makes a big difference. Just some other observations about Galway this year - why were so many of the players including key players (it has been estimated up to 10) either out injured or carrying injuries into games? Contrast that with Dublin or Kerry who were practically injury free bar maybe 1 or 2? Surely that is an S&C issue. Also a GAA journalist once wrote that for to be successful, every county needs what he called a certain amount of "leaders", "bleeders" and "feeders". Leaders stood up, got on the ball and drove the team forward when things went against the team or heads started to drop (Gary Fahey, Kevin Walsh and Ja Fallon were examples of that from the 1998 / 2001 team), bleeders put their bodies on the line and won "dirty ball" etc. (Tomás Mannion and John Divilly were examples) and feeders were the fast, skillful players who linked up play, took scores etc. (Michael Donnellan, Declan Meehan, Sean Óg de Paor, Padraig Joyce and Derek Savage were examples). I don't think the Galway footballers have enough of that mix of players currently."
Donnellan was a bleeder, feeder, and leader at his best. That's why he was as good as he was.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3308 - 02/08/2023 11:43:10    2498559

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Donnellan was a bleeder, feeder, and leader at his best. That's why he was as good as he was."
Yes some of them had all 3 elements - Ja Fallon was another example.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 03/08/2023 09:56:36    2498789

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Don't get all the doom and gloom in here, we are not far away at all but I do a agree about slow in transition. Defensively I thought we were excellent last year and that's always your base, it would be a shame to lose CON though.

It will be good to get Molloy back in the HB line to inject a bit of pace, will O'Laoi be back in the panel next year??

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1539 - 03/08/2023 09:57:49    2498790

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Replying To smallfrank:  "I've seen Cluxton a good few times live and there's probably 20 elements to why it works so well.
1. His speed of getting set up.
2. His accuracy off the tee.
3. His ability to change which side he kicks to in 2 steps.
4. His ability to disguise the kick.
5. His trust in the receiver.
6. The way they bunch and have the power then to get out in front of their man when making the run.
7. Their choreographed and planned blocking of opposition runners. I've no issue with it.
8. Their holding of opposition players off the ball. I've no issue with it.
And many others.
Most of all I would say, the above doesn't happen by accident, I would say the 100s of hours on the training pitch and 22 years with the same keeper helps.
How many championship keepers have Galway had since Cluxtons debut. I would say Brian O'Donoghue, Paul Doherty, Manus Breathnach, Adrian Flaherty, Ruairi Lavelle, Bernard Power, Tom Healy, Ronan O'Beolain are all younger than Cluxton"
I always felt that if Adrian Faherty had not moved abroad there is fair chance he would still be our goalkeeper.

crankyincorofin (Galway) - Posts: 69 - 03/08/2023 15:51:37    2498906

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Replying To Marooned:  "Sure we lived with Kerry last year. The final was level on 66 minutes. And Clifford had a much better shooting day last year. Galway just have to come back next year. Hopefully everyone available unlike this year and they'll be there or thereabouts."
Yes Galway were there after 66 minutes and the ref was it Hurson made a very bad call against John Daly. Galway gave Clifford too much space though. How many forward marks did he get against Galway. None last Sunday. Shane Walsh shot the lights out which kept Galway right in it. I doubt Walsh will have a final like that again. Comer is too injury prone .Galway are Connacht's best chance of bridging what will be a 23 year gap next year but a lot of things will need to go right together for them to win it. Kerry or Dublin a safer bet.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2090 - 05/08/2023 15:01:11    2499143

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Is it true Jack McCaffery is transferring to Salthill. Similar to Shane he is finding commuting tough!

hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 09/08/2023 09:36:22    2499642

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Replying To hashtag2017:  "Is it true Jack McCaffery is transferring to Salthill. Similar to Shane he is finding commuting tough!"
He will be training with Salthill but playing his club football with Clontarf from what I heard so not the same as Shane.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 09/08/2023 13:30:59    2499724

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Replying To tommy k:  "He will be training with Salthill but playing his club football with Clontarf from what I heard so not the same as Shane."
A proper Gael so if thats true.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1124 - 09/08/2023 15:06:24    2499751

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Replying To smallfrank:  "That free against Daly still baffles me.
I haven't seen it given against a defender before or since. Anyway Kerry definitely got the rub of the green that day and I wouldn't have been very happy with some calls in the semi final if I was a derry fan. That phantom free Stephen O'brien got had them in the final.

Interesting to hear Darran O'Sullivan say last night that he still has Kerry as No.1 for next year.
I just have a feeling there's an Ulster wave coming again like the early 90s and 00s.
Derry, Monaghan are coming with youth, the Canavans will be around for another 10 years."
Monaghan no way derry maybe but Kerry still weren't far off Dublin after they are number or 2 until shown otherwise if subs loose players its kerry for me . Derry Galway not far off. Yes wasn't a free for obrien but didn't cost derry fully they had chances after that and started missing can't blame ref fully

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 182 - 09/08/2023 15:44:28    2499767

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Replying To smallfrank:  "That free against Daly still baffles me.
I haven't seen it given against a defender before or since. Anyway Kerry definitely got the rub of the green that day and I wouldn't have been very happy with some calls in the semi final if I was a derry fan. That phantom free Stephen O'brien got had them in the final.

Interesting to hear Darran O'Sullivan say last night that he still has Kerry as No.1 for next year.
I just have a feeling there's an Ulster wave coming again like the early 90s and 00s.
Derry, Monaghan are coming with youth, the Canavans will be around for another 10 years."
Big call by the referee Hurson a few minutes from the end of an All Ireland final and nothing between the teams. Kerry do okay with referee decisions. The traditionally successful counties always do. I wouldn't see Monaghan as potential All Ireland champions. Tyrone will come I think over the next few years. Maybe next year is a bit soon for them and the young Canavan lads. Kerry will be very determined next year to make amends but Dublin will be there or thereabouts and may well do the back to back.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2090 - 09/08/2023 17:18:51    2499788

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "A proper Gael so if thats true."
Are you saying Shane is not " a proper Gael" whatever that means?

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 09/08/2023 19:00:21    2499797

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Congrats to the Galway Ladies Minor Team on beating Kildare in the AI Final. Galway continue to be the only Connacht county to bring silverware West of the Shannon practically every year both in club or county.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3152 - 10/08/2023 11:43:21    2499859

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Ian Burke s exit is a big blow. Hope we have no more loses.

northbouind (Galway) - Posts: 302 - 11/08/2023 14:00:31    2500071

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Im not entirely sure, I don't think Ian contributed enough overall in Championship aside from his performance against Ros in The Hyde. Good to have him part of squad (all star, afterall) but we should be ok.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1539 - 11/08/2023 14:12:28    2500074

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Replying To ahsure.:  "Im not entirely sure, I don't think Ian contributed enough overall in Championship aside from his performance against Ros in The Hyde. Good to have him part of squad (all star, afterall) but we should be ok."
I would agree that he didnt contribute enough , but I still think he is a loss.
The reason for some of the ineffectiveness is down to style of play.
If he gets quick ball and has runners coming off him he can be very very effective. But Galway had neither of those. We dont give quick ball and we dont commit enough numbers. Both of those things need to change in 2024 regardless of Ian Burke's prescence or absence.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 796 - 11/08/2023 16:29:07    2500100

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