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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Casey, Dunbar, Higgins in the full forward line???? We need experience and strength in that line. I fear Cork would be delighted with your three. No Mac or Rory?. Remember fans will be paying €15.00 to see this game and deserve to get value for money. Okay we are in a semi final but we shouldn't go out with a weakened side for this game. Consistency is the key word here. Cork would be a great scalp to get and for us to win 5 games on the trot would be a fantastic achievement. By all means play some of the newer lads as i named in my team yesterday but our main men must be included. Cork are speed merchants and will be flying from the throw in. Lets give them something to think about."
Dwyer and Dunbar played inside in Salthill with Rory having a free role further out, could play dwyer there and dunbar in HF line either from the team I selected. this game is a dead rubber, there's little chance Cork will go full strength I imagine they'll run their panel, wouldn't be surprised if Patrick Horgan got the weekend off and didn't even travel down, remember both teams have a league semi final the following week and potentially a league final the week after that, you'd have to go full strength in those games and then 2 weeks after the league final championship starts, what's the point in going full strength if you have possibly 3 games in the following 4 weeks which are all far more important, I certainly wouldn't feel short changed if Wexford picked a experiential team in this game same as I didn't last Saturday.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/03/2022 18:46:25    2404681

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Casey, Dunbar, Higgins in the full forward line???? We need experience and strength in that line. I fear Cork would be delighted with your three. No Mac or Rory?. Remember fans will be paying €15.00 to see this game and deserve to get value for money. Okay we are in a semi final but we shouldn't go out with a weakened side for this game. Consistency is the key word here. Cork would be a great scalp to get and for us to win 5 games on the trot would be a fantastic achievement. By all means play some of the newer lads as i named in my team yesterday but our main men must be included. Cork are speed merchants and will be flying from the throw in. Lets give them something to think about."
think giving Rory a break would do him no harm. Hed still be on the bench. This game is our last senior intercounty game this season that isnt a must-win game. The 3 lads Wexico named in the FF line are all faster than Conor Mac and interplayed well in the Fitzgibbon for ITC it would just be interesting to see if they would work well together at Senior. When I suggested it 1st I was imagining bring the 3 on at the same time for the last 20 or 25 minutes but why not give them the 1st half instead of the 2nd. The back 6 is a championship back 6 , theres 1 newish guy in midfield in Devitt alongside our vice captain, and Chin and Dwyer in the HF line are championship starters as far as I'd be concerned. Dunbar might have been an option as a starter against Cork instead of Mac anyway as he has alot more pace and will track the cork runners which Conor likely won't do. He did well in his start at FF earlier in the league and was one of our best players in the last senior championship game we played. Alot of lads would have him starting against Galway in 5 weeks. Agreed the 2 lads in the corners would be relatively inexperienced but overall it's not that experimental of a team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16539 - 09/03/2022 18:54:31    2404684

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Don't know if its true or not but i got it from a harriers official today. He said that Chin would not go for an operation as the recovery would be lengthy and would keep him out of the game for a very long time. So if that is true then maybe they can patch him up somewhat. Hope its just rumours."
Yeah I had heard that the recovery time could be anywhere from 1-2 years. It must be a serious enough injury. They must be going to try and manage the problem which hopefully will suffice but he might be struggling to be 100 per cent that way…? We need him at full pelt when championship arrives. It's not really good news, especially for Chins long term future.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 09/03/2022 19:30:15    2404687

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Casey, Dunbar, Higgins in the full forward line???? We need experience and strength in that line. I fear Cork would be delighted with your three. No Mac or Rory?. Remember fans will be paying €15.00 to see this game and deserve to get value for money. Okay we are in a semi final but we shouldn't go out with a weakened side for this game. Consistency is the key word here. Cork would be a great scalp to get and for us to win 5 games on the trot would be a fantastic achievement. By all means play some of the newer lads as i named in my team yesterday but our main men must be included. Cork are speed merchants and will be flying from the throw in. Lets give them something to think about."
Here's our schedule

March 20- Cork
March 26/27- League semi final
April 2/3- Possible league final
April 9/10- weekend off
April 16- Galway in championship
April 23- Dublin in championship
May 1- Laois in Championship

So that's the potential of 6 games in 7 weeks so that's why i don't see the value is going overly strong selection vs Cork, incidently Cork could possibly of 4 games in 5 weeks.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/03/2022 19:40:09    2404690

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It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 09/03/2022 20:55:00    2404699

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Replying To beano:  "It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well."
Hoping our top player doesn't play well in a match? Ok, makes perfect sense.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 840 - 10/03/2022 09:53:39    2404716

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Its hard to know what to do - get our best lads used to playing together or give some lads rest before the semi final.

It would be nice to avoid Waterford in the semi but there is no way of knowing who will finish top or 2nd in the other group.

I think top of the league should be given home advantage in the semi- final against the 2nd place teams as this would be a huge motivation to finish top and make the last game far more exciting

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 10/03/2022 10:26:13    2404725

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Hoping our top player doesn't play well in a match? Ok, makes perfect sense."
To be fair to be Beano he didn't say he hopes Rory has a bad game . He just hopes we look after him and I agree with him . I think I would rest him for The Cork game too maybe bring him off the bench but that would be it

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 10/03/2022 10:28:59    2404726

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Replying To beano:  "It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well."
So 5000 wexford fans would go along to the park, pay €15.00 and look at their team getting hammered by Cork. That would be wonderful. Yes its a dead rubber game. Yes we are in a league semi final anyway. Yes Cork are in the same situation as us. Yes we are going to be playing a lot of games over the next few weeks.
yes we need to experiment. Yes the newer lads need gametime.
All of the above is very true but really we must try to win every game. To go out with a very understrength side would be an insult to the loyal fans. Handing over their hard earned money to look at a boring one sided match.
Maybe Cork will bring a full strength team, maybe they won't but we should line out with our key players such as Rory Mac, Dee, and Chin and Jippo if available. We could still start with the new lads like Flood, Hearne, Oisin Foley and maybe pepper or mcguician. To go out with a carefree attitude would be wrong and very disrespectful to what will almost certainly a very large crowd.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 668 - 10/03/2022 10:39:20    2404728

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Replying To beano:  "It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well."
Injuries can be picked up just as easily during training. So let's not wrap them up in cotton wool and molly coddle them.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 668 - 10/03/2022 10:44:11    2404729

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Replying To beano:  "It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well."
Hopefully if we win our first 4 games in Leinster we will already be in a Leinster final before we go to Kilkenny . That's a big ask though . Our first two games in the park could be 50-50 and Laois is a banana skin in Portlaoise

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 10/03/2022 10:50:03    2404731

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Injuries can be picked up just as easily during training. So let's not wrap them up in cotton wool and molly coddle them."
But the reality is we're facing 5 or 6 games in 7 weeks and this Cork game will be the least important of those 5 or 6 games by a long way so no point playing a particularly strong them in my opinion.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/03/2022 10:58:56    2404734

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "So 5000 wexford fans would go along to the park, pay €15.00 and look at their team getting hammered by Cork. That would be wonderful. Yes its a dead rubber game. Yes we are in a league semi final anyway. Yes Cork are in the same situation as us. Yes we are going to be playing a lot of games over the next few weeks.
yes we need to experiment. Yes the newer lads need gametime.
All of the above is very true but really we must try to win every game. To go out with a very understrength side would be an insult to the loyal fans. Handing over their hard earned money to look at a boring one sided match.
Maybe Cork will bring a full strength team, maybe they won't but we should line out with our key players such as Rory Mac, Dee, and Chin and Jippo if available. We could still start with the new lads like Flood, Hearne, Oisin Foley and maybe pepper or mcguician. To go out with a carefree attitude would be wrong and very disrespectful to what will almost certainly a very large crowd."
It's not like the fans are rounded up onto a bus on the main street of our towns and forced down to these games against their will. Heck, some lads here travelled to see them play practice matches out of the county which is serious commitment, but anyone that goes down to the match knowing both sides are likely to be under-cooked, and would then complain about the quality on show, are deluded.

And your saying the county management should be dictated by a requirement to entertain fans? I'd say it's more incumbent of them to mind the minutes of certain players, especially with potentially two extra games added to an already tight enough schedule.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 10/03/2022 11:06:03    2404735

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Replying To beano:  "It would have been just like Wexford down through the years to go full strength in such a match, and end up picking an injury to a key player. I hope and think we have wisened up now and that we'll play an experimental side. There is no way Rory should even tog out against Cork. In fact, I'd be hoping he'll be able to have a day off in the penultimate round robin game before the Kilkenny clash too all going well."
I still dont get why people are calling Wexicos lineup an experimental one. All the back 7 he named will likely get championship starts this year and got championship starts over the last few years. Kevin Foley is an automatic championship starter and 1 of our best players. The half forward line is 2 championship starters and many on this thought Hearne should've got more starts last year. And Dunbar was 1 of our best players v Clare in the championship last year. Devitt has really improved this year. So really the only experimental players as such are Casey and Higgins. Both are great prospects and good hurlers and Casey especially has got stronger the last year or so.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16539 - 10/03/2022 11:15:13    2404741

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "So 5000 wexford fans would go along to the park, pay €15.00 and look at their team getting hammered by Cork. That would be wonderful. Yes its a dead rubber game. Yes we are in a league semi final anyway. Yes Cork are in the same situation as us. Yes we are going to be playing a lot of games over the next few weeks.
yes we need to experiment. Yes the newer lads need gametime.
All of the above is very true but really we must try to win every game. To go out with a very understrength side would be an insult to the loyal fans. Handing over their hard earned money to look at a boring one sided match.
Maybe Cork will bring a full strength team, maybe they won't but we should line out with our key players such as Rory Mac, Dee, and Chin and Jippo if available. We could still start with the new lads like Flood, Hearne, Oisin Foley and maybe pepper or mcguician. To go out with a carefree attitude would be wrong and very disrespectful to what will almost certainly a very large crowd."
It's still not a massively under strength side we are debating here blockandhook. Look back at the selection before you put up any more posts about it. Chin and Jippo are named on it for a start!!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16539 - 10/03/2022 11:17:44    2404743

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "So 5000 wexford fans would go along to the park, pay €15.00 and look at their team getting hammered by Cork. That would be wonderful. Yes its a dead rubber game. Yes we are in a league semi final anyway. Yes Cork are in the same situation as us. Yes we are going to be playing a lot of games over the next few weeks.
yes we need to experiment. Yes the newer lads need gametime.
All of the above is very true but really we must try to win every game. To go out with a very understrength side would be an insult to the loyal fans. Handing over their hard earned money to look at a boring one sided match.
Maybe Cork will bring a full strength team, maybe they won't but we should line out with our key players such as Rory Mac, Dee, and Chin and Jippo if available. We could still start with the new lads like Flood, Hearne, Oisin Foley and maybe pepper or mcguician. To go out with a carefree attitude would be wrong and very disrespectful to what will almost certainly a very large crowd."
It's still not a massively under strength side we are debating here blockandhook. Look back at the selection before you put up any more posts about it. Chin and Jippo are named on it for a start!!!!! I'll be there and I certainly wouldnt feel disrespected by it. Devitt might well start a championship game this year as might Hearne. So Casey and Higgins are the only 2 selected that likely wont start a championship game this year. Or they might play their way onto the team by doing well against Cork. That's the whole point.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16539 - 10/03/2022 11:24:08    2404745

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Injuries can be picked up just as easily during training. So let's not wrap them up in cotton wool and molly coddle them."
It's not about injuries. We all saw it before in previous championships even last year. Any team playing 4 or 5 games in a row looked very tired. Back in 2014 we got hammered by Limerick. Waterford looked ****** by the semi last year. A good few counties including ourselves in the 1st round Robin. We potentially have 6 games in 7 weeks and definitely have 5. We will have to rotate whether we like it or not. Cotton wool has nothing to do with it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16539 - 10/03/2022 11:28:42    2404746

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On top of all of the above as I mentioned yesterday the u20s are playing a knockout championship game on April 9 so if we did reach a league final I doubt they would be involved while its possible they wouldn't be involved in the games prior either.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/03/2022 11:29:29    2404747

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's still not a massively under strength side we are debating here blockandhook. Look back at the selection before you put up any more posts about it. Chin and Jippo are named on it for a start!!!!! I'll be there and I certainly wouldnt feel disrespected by it. Devitt might well start a championship game this year as might Hearne. So Casey and Higgins are the only 2 selected that likely wont start a championship game this year. Or they might play their way onto the team by doing well against Cork. That's the whole point."
I accept what you say Viking but i was angered by a post that said we should put out an experimental team and rest Rory for maybe 2 games or more. Not your post i hasten to add.To finish I'll just say that the team v Cork should have balance and every line should have a seasoned player in it. The full forward line that another poster suggested , consisting of Casey, Dunbar and Higgins would be blown away imo. Then again we don't select the team. Sure we are only giving our opinions. It will be very interesting to see what team is picked. I would love to see Ryan and Chin back again. Fingers crossed..

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 668 - 10/03/2022 13:36:47    2404773

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "So 5000 wexford fans would go along to the park, pay €15.00 and look at their team getting hammered by Cork. That would be wonderful. Yes its a dead rubber game. Yes we are in a league semi final anyway. Yes Cork are in the same situation as us. Yes we are going to be playing a lot of games over the next few weeks.
yes we need to experiment. Yes the newer lads need gametime.
All of the above is very true but really we must try to win every game. To go out with a very understrength side would be an insult to the loyal fans. Handing over their hard earned money to look at a boring one sided match.
Maybe Cork will bring a full strength team, maybe they won't but we should line out with our key players such as Rory Mac, Dee, and Chin and Jippo if available. We could still start with the new lads like Flood, Hearne, Oisin Foley and maybe pepper or mcguician. To go out with a carefree attitude would be wrong and very disrespectful to what will almost certainly a very large crowd."
Darragh Egan will do what he thinks is right for the team/squad. That's his job. Kieran Kingston will do the same for cork. Supporters have the choice of going or not. I'll be there regardless of what team we put out.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 10/03/2022 13:36:56    2404774

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