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Replying To wexico15:  "Its a tricky one, Galway were flying in rounds 4 and 5 of lasts year league but were terrible then in the championship. Waterford got to a league final in 19 but got hammered in every game in Munster, its so hard to judge."
There was a 2 month break between league and championship back the though.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 07/03/2022 16:33:56    2404322

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Replying To zinny:  "Yeah, I don't think Cork will be looking at Limericks league form and saying they have a handy first round of the Championship. I am not convinced that momentum in the league translates into Championship as its two very different competitions."
I agree it might not usually but this year there are only 4 weeks between the 2. 3 maximum for us, and 2 if we make the final.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 07/03/2022 16:35:35    2404324

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Replying To Viking66:  "There was a 2 month break between league and championship back the though."
Fair both for the Waterford example that was a 6 week gap but Galway last year was only 3 weeks.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 17:07:52    2404332

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Replying To zinny:  "Yeah, I don't think Cork will be looking at Limericks league form and saying they have a handy first round of the Championship. I am not convinced that momentum in the league translates into Championship as its two very different competitions."
Its so hard to judge as there's never been an scenario like this before, don't think we'll know the answers until we have the benefit of reflective hindsight in August when the intercounty year is over. On Limerick I think everyone is acutely aware there still the team to beat but I do thing there league form isn't ideal. I think its OK for teams to have a poor performance or 2 in the league if they really show up strong in 1 or 2 other league games, Limerick done exactly that last year but they haven't reached there very high standards yet in this year's league even with there best available team starting yesterday, any absentees were suspended or injured rather than rested.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 17:14:56    2404336

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Replying To wexico15:  "Fair both for the Waterford example that was a 6 week gap but Galway last year was only 3 weeks."
*fair point that should say*

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/03/2022 17:15:21    2404337

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Replying To wexico15:  "Fair both for the Waterford example that was a 6 week gap but Galway last year was only 3 weeks."
True Wexico and Galway did look bad against Dublin especially.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 07/03/2022 17:59:19    2404345

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree it might not usually but this year there are only 4 weeks between the 2. 3 maximum for us, and 2 if we make the final."
Viking66 it would normally concern me putting all your eggs in the league basket but Waterford have used 29 players to get to here. Resting Gleeson yesterday. Pulling off Prunty. Jamie Barron and Callum Lyons not badly injured but given plenty time. Going into the fifth round without Ballygunner players starting. I would not be surprised if Stephen Bennett is rested next day as Dublin would need to make up around 40 points if Kilkenny win. Winning breeds success and is important to Wexford and Waterford.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3131 - 07/03/2022 19:38:20    2404357

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Replying To Canuck:  "Viking66 it would normally concern me putting all your eggs in the league basket but Waterford have used 29 players to get to here. Resting Gleeson yesterday. Pulling off Prunty. Jamie Barron and Callum Lyons not badly injured but given plenty time. Going into the fifth round without Ballygunner players starting. I would not be surprised if Stephen Bennett is rested next day as Dublin would need to make up around 40 points if Kilkenny win. Winning breeds success and is important to Wexford and Waterford."
I agree Canuck. I think momentum has always been more important to Waterford, Galway and ourselves than other counties. Idve put Limerick in that category too until the Kiely Kinnerk show took off. Kilkenny always play their best and Tipp, Cork and Clare usually are more consistent too. Cahill seems to have got yourselves mostly out of that too. If you had played better the 1st game out last year and hadnt had to go through the backdoor you wouldve had an even better season. I know injuries was the cause of that but I think you have the panel now to cope with it. I honestly wont have any feeling for where we or Galway are at in the Championship til after the 1st match of the Round Robin.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 07/03/2022 20:59:17    2404371

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree Canuck. I think momentum has always been more important to Waterford, Galway and ourselves than other counties. Idve put Limerick in that category too until the Kiely Kinnerk show took off. Kilkenny always play their best and Tipp, Cork and Clare usually are more consistent too. Cahill seems to have got yourselves mostly out of that too. If you had played better the 1st game out last year and hadnt had to go through the backdoor you wouldve had an even better season. I know injuries was the cause of that but I think you have the panel now to cope with it. I honestly wont have any feeling for where we or Galway are at in the Championship til after the 1st match of the Round Robin."
However I don't think a lot of people believe winning in the league will give us an advantage in the championship but having a bad run in the league would be more harmful to us than some other counties

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2025 - 08/03/2022 10:48:10    2404403

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Replying To zinny:  "However I don't think a lot of people believe winning in the league will give us an advantage in the championship but having a bad run in the league would be more harmful to us than some other counties"
I disagree. If we win a League Final we will be flying 2 weeks later for Galway in the Park. No guarantee from that we will beat Galway of course but it would be great for our lads confidence. Tbh win lose or draw against Cork next weekend we have a semifinal to look forward to. Once the lads play with good intensity in the next 2 games and dont get hammered I think this will have been a great League for us. Other bonuses would be Bailey,
Chin and Ryan playing well in 1 or both games and none of our 1st team panel picking up any bad injuries. If lads like Mcguckin, O Foley, Devitt, Shane Reck, Dunbar, Casey, Hearne, Dwyer, Higgins, Ross Banville and Dunne could get a good run out in both games and do well that would be a huge bonus too. Lads like Pepper, Byrne, Corey Dunbar, Lawlor are all under 20 this year so maybe there wouldnt be the need to give them as many minutes in these next 2 games as we try to get our senior championship panel finalised unless Egan has seen something out of this world in any of them in training that would make him think they might have a significant impact in the round Robin. I'd be very hopeful our u20s will be very good this year .

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 08/03/2022 11:48:46    2404417

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Championship starting team -

1. Fanning
2. Donohue
3. Liam Ryan
4. Shane Reck
5. Matt O' Hanlon
6. Paudie Foley
7. Connal Flood
8. Dee O Keefe
9. Damien Reck
10. Kevin Foley
11. Lee Chin
12. Liam Og
13. Rory O'Connor
14. Conor McDonald
15. Cathal Dunbar

Subs - 16. Lawlor, 17. Jack O' Connor 18. Gavin Bailey 19. Mikey Dwyer 20. Oisin Foley 21. Paul Morris 22. Conor Devitt 23. Oisin Pepper 24. Rory Higgins 25. Conor Hearne 26. Charlie McGukian

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 08/03/2022 14:40:51    2404468

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Championship starting team -

1. Fanning
2. Donohue
3. Liam Ryan
4. Shane Reck
5. Matt O' Hanlon
6. Paudie Foley
7. Connal Flood
8. Dee O Keefe
9. Damien Reck
10. Kevin Foley
11. Lee Chin
12. Liam Og
13. Rory O'Connor
14. Conor McDonald
15. Cathal Dunbar

Subs - 16. Lawlor, 17. Jack O' Connor 18. Gavin Bailey 19. Mikey Dwyer 20. Oisin Foley 21. Paul Morris 22. Conor Devitt 23. Oisin Pepper 24. Rory Higgins 25. Conor Hearne 26. Charlie McGukian"
I'd be near enough along similar lines, but would start Dwyer somewhere. Maybe instead of Donohoe and move Damien back to corner back, and either Dunbar into midfield or half-forward with Foley filling in at 9 instead.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 08/03/2022 14:47:50    2404471

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Championship starting team -

1. Fanning
2. Donohue
3. Liam Ryan
4. Shane Reck
5. Matt O' Hanlon
6. Paudie Foley
7. Connal Flood
8. Dee O Keefe
9. Damien Reck
10. Kevin Foley
11. Lee Chin
12. Liam Og
13. Rory O'Connor
14. Conor McDonald
15. Cathal Dunbar

Subs - 16. Lawlor, 17. Jack O' Connor 18. Gavin Bailey 19. Mikey Dwyer 20. Oisin Foley 21. Paul Morris 22. Conor Devitt 23. Oisin Pepper 24. Rory Higgins 25. Conor Hearne 26. Charlie McGukian"
Mikie Dwyer has to be in the team for me for his pace and workrate, a FF line of him, Mac and Rory is very well balanced I think, couldn't see Damien Reck midfield given I don't think he's ever played there in a senior intercounty game, I think on all known form Ryan, MOH, Flood, Paudie and Damien Reck are defiantly 5 of the 6 starting backs, for the final spot personally I'd have Shane Reck ahead of Donohoe but Simon could be a great option off the bench and Egan seems to rate him so wouldn't be surprised if he started, Devitt could be a dark horse for this spot, really impressed Saturday and also in the Walsh Cup before his injury, also think Kevin Foley is far more impactful midfield rather than HF line. I wonder will Liam's OG impressive showing on Saturday might give Egan the view he's a contender for an impact sub.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 08/03/2022 14:57:26    2404476

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Championship starting team -

1. Fanning
2. Donohue
3. Liam Ryan
4. Shane Reck
5. Matt O' Hanlon
6. Paudie Foley
7. Connal Flood
8. Dee O Keefe
9. Damien Reck
10. Kevin Foley
11. Lee Chin
12. Liam Og
13. Rory O'Connor
14. Conor McDonald
15. Cathal Dunbar

Subs - 16. Lawlor, 17. Jack O' Connor 18. Gavin Bailey 19. Mikey Dwyer 20. Oisin Foley 21. Paul Morris 22. Conor Devitt 23. Oisin Pepper 24. Rory Higgins 25. Conor Hearne 26. Charlie McGukian"
For me at the moment its the below 1-9 and FF line

Fanning

S Reck
Ryan
MOH

Flood
P Foley
D Reck

K Foley
DOK

FF Line
Dwyer
Mac
ROC

HF line is so tricky, obviously if Chin's fit he's an automatic but other 2 spots are hard judge looking at 2 from Mogie, Jacko, Dunbar, McGuckin and Oisin Foley, going to have a think about it, also based on Saturday Hearne could potentially be an impact sub option, taught he got through alot of work.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 08/03/2022 15:03:03    2404480

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Replying To beano:  "I'd be near enough along similar lines, but would start Dwyer somewhere. Maybe instead of Donohoe and move Damien back to corner back, and either Dunbar into midfield or half-forward with Foley filling in at 9 instead."
Not sure about Foley at 9. But agree Dwyers energy and physicality would be good up the top of the pitch. Great to have alternative selections that dont really weaken the team! Could put Flood wing forward and Damien wing back. Dunbar in midfield. Dwyer Corner forward. Foley to the bench . Probably as the Round Robin goes on there will be a need for a bit of rotation with knocks and niggles. Or in the games against KK, Galway and Dublin there might be a need for fresh legs after 55 minutes.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16537 - 08/03/2022 15:16:09    2404483

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Replying To beano:  "I'd be near enough along similar lines, but would start Dwyer somewhere. Maybe instead of Donohoe and move Damien back to corner back, and either Dunbar into midfield or half-forward with Foley filling in at 9 instead."
Egan has no reason to drop Donoghue so can't see that happening.
He's not just going to drop a seasoned experienced defender who is playing well to fit in a forward.
I like the look of that team, very balanced.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 970 - 08/03/2022 15:16:57    2404484

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Championship starting team -

1. Fanning
2. Donohue
3. Liam Ryan
4. Shane Reck
5. Matt O' Hanlon
6. Paudie Foley
7. Connal Flood
8. Dee O Keefe
9. Damien Reck
10. Kevin Foley
11. Lee Chin
12. Liam Og
13. Rory O'Connor
14. Conor McDonald
15. Cathal Dunbar

Subs - 16. Lawlor, 17. Jack O' Connor 18. Gavin Bailey 19. Mikey Dwyer 20. Oisin Foley 21. Paul Morris 22. Conor Devitt 23. Oisin Pepper 24. Rory Higgins 25. Conor Hearne 26. Charlie McGukian"
I'd drop Donohue and Foley (don't think he's on form). I'd drop MOH back to the corner, push Reck back to the wing, throw Cathal in midfield, and Dwyer to me has earned his start somewhere in the forwards.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 270 - 08/03/2022 15:51:58    2404491

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Difficult to pick team AND 11 subs. Nice problem to have when you have more players than spaces available!!!!

12 names with * are nailed on starters IMO!!!
In FB line, Devitt or Donohue could replace Shane Reck on starting 15. Devitt has really impressed me.
HF line is very difficult. Morris or McGuckian could start instead of either OFoley or Dunbar

I would hold McGovern; Hearne and Jacko as really good impact subs.

We really need a more dependable free-taker, especially longer range. Last Sunday I think Offaly were happy to foul us out the field as they knew we would struggle to convert long range frees.

So good to see a stronger panel, BUT we really do need Chin back. He has the heart of a lion, is a natural leader on the field and is a great target man in the HF line


Fanning*

S Reck
Ryan*
MOH*

Flood*
P Foley*
D Reck*

K Foley*
O'Keeffe*

O Foley
Chin*
Dunbar

Dwyer*
Conor Mac*
Rory*

Subs:
Lawlor; McGuckian; McGovern; Hearne; Jacko; Devitt; Donohue; Morris; Pepper; Casey; Bailey

Waldorf.Salad (Wexford) - Posts: 36 - 08/03/2022 16:20:11    2404499

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Replying To Waldorf.Salad:  "Difficult to pick team AND 11 subs. Nice problem to have when you have more players than spaces available!!!!

12 names with * are nailed on starters IMO!!!
In FB line, Devitt or Donohue could replace Shane Reck on starting 15. Devitt has really impressed me.
HF line is very difficult. Morris or McGuckian could start instead of either OFoley or Dunbar

I would hold McGovern; Hearne and Jacko as really good impact subs.

We really need a more dependable free-taker, especially longer range. Last Sunday I think Offaly were happy to foul us out the field as they knew we would struggle to convert long range frees.

So good to see a stronger panel, BUT we really do need Chin back. He has the heart of a lion, is a natural leader on the field and is a great target man in the HF line


Fanning*

S Reck
Ryan*
MOH*

Flood*
P Foley*
D Reck*

K Foley*
O'Keeffe*

O Foley
Chin*
Dunbar

Dwyer*
Conor Mac*
Rory*

Subs:
Lawlor; McGuckian; McGovern; Hearne; Jacko; Devitt; Donohue; Morris; Pepper; Casey; Bailey"
I was delighted for Hearne that he did well on Saturday as I taught he struggled against Kilkenny in the Walsh Cup, I think he might have taken a while to get going after a long club run (Shels played a Leinster football semi final on Dec 18), Donohoe was below his usual standards in that Kilkenny game too.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 08/03/2022 16:43:08    2404508

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Replying To Waldorf.Salad:  "Difficult to pick team AND 11 subs. Nice problem to have when you have more players than spaces available!!!!

12 names with * are nailed on starters IMO!!!
In FB line, Devitt or Donohue could replace Shane Reck on starting 15. Devitt has really impressed me.
HF line is very difficult. Morris or McGuckian could start instead of either OFoley or Dunbar

I would hold McGovern; Hearne and Jacko as really good impact subs.

We really need a more dependable free-taker, especially longer range. Last Sunday I think Offaly were happy to foul us out the field as they knew we would struggle to convert long range frees.

So good to see a stronger panel, BUT we really do need Chin back. He has the heart of a lion, is a natural leader on the field and is a great target man in the HF line


Fanning*

S Reck
Ryan*
MOH*

Flood*
P Foley*
D Reck*

K Foley*
O'Keeffe*

O Foley
Chin*
Dunbar

Dwyer*
Conor Mac*
Rory*

Subs:
Lawlor; McGuckian; McGovern; Hearne; Jacko; Devitt; Donohue; Morris; Pepper; Casey; Bailey"
Fanning

S. Reck
Ryan
D. Reck

Flood
Foley
OHanlon

Dee O
K. Foley

O. Foley
Jacko
Chin

Dwyer
Mac
Rory

I'd go with ohanlon wing back. Even though he's been really good so far this year I would have concerns his mobility might be exposed in the corner. I've also gone for ball winners in the half forward line

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 08/03/2022 16:58:16    2404511

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