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Proposals For 2Nd Tier Championship Pathetic

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I think it is given the counties what they want, people make a mistake in thinking because they don't like it as fans that players don't like - not so. BTW the GPA represents themselves (a narrow band of "elite" players) the GPA doesn't represent the players or the GAA end off, their primary goal is to screw the GAA for as much money as they can get. The counties involved asked the GAA for this, they voted for it, so if fans are unhappy take it up with their own county boards. Finally someone is listening, if players do not want to play in it, don't worry plenty in each county to replace them and in time it will be as much a part of summer as it always has been. A chance for these counties to develop and grow without the suffocating demands of Senior 1 Inter-county sucking the life out out of the counties in question.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4513 - 19/10/2019 18:28:48    2244420

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Replying To Htaem:  "It's a joke, Sky will probably ignore Tommy Murphy 2 completely, whereas worse still RTE will pay it the lipiest of all lip service, probably throw together a few condescensing packages hailing TMC2 as the best thing to ever happen Div3 & 4 teams.

But that will only last a couple of weeks, even the lip service will stop and there'll be just nothing then."
That's it in a nutshell.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17155 - 19/10/2019 18:39:16    2244422

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Replying To arock:  "I think it is given the counties what they want, people make a mistake in thinking because they don't like it as fans that players don't like - not so. BTW the GPA represents themselves (a narrow band of "elite" players) the GPA doesn't represent the players or the GAA end off, their primary goal is to screw the GAA for as much money as they can get. The counties involved asked the GAA for this, they voted for it, so if fans are unhappy take it up with their own county boards. Finally someone is listening, if players do not want to play in it, don't worry plenty in each county to replace them and in time it will be as much a part of summer as it always has been. A chance for these counties to develop and grow without the suffocating demands of Senior 1 Inter-county sucking the life out out of the counties in question."
The fans?? There are players and managers in division 3 and 4 who have come out against a tier 2 competition. Where had you your head buried under arock? Get it? arock!! Thanks I'm here all night

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 146 - 19/10/2019 18:58:12    2244428

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Replying To Longfordbaz:  "Very sad day imo. GAA getting rid of the nuisance that are the div 3/4 teams otherwise known as the weaker counties. Players in these teams, make the same sacrifices that players from Dublin, Kerry etc. Now, they are going to in a second rate competition. Many will view the sacrifice not worth it. The media and TV coverage will view it, not to be worth it. The GAA will not spend to promote it. Players will now concentrate on their clubs and or head to America, where they will be better treated, than their own organisation at home. The best players within the county, will not be representing their counties, thus the standards will fall, while your larger county teams play each other on more regular basis and thus, keep improving. The gap will grow. This is nothing more, than a financial decision. I cannot understand how delegates from counties like my own could vote for this. There was no proper research conducted as to how it work properly. The obviously reason for these delegates voting in such a way, is that their county board will be rewarded for their loyalty....look at how Joe mcdonagh cup, nick rackard cup etc are treated......bad day all round!!!"
Said it before the football is dead in some counties and has now been given the last rites. Hurling is also dead in certain counties and probably got the last rites some time ago. Is anyone naive enough to think that the GAA will put any thing into the weak counties, second tier teams, Tom Murphy cup 2 what ever you like to call it. Follow the money. Again "follow the moneyeeeee"

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1078 - 19/10/2019 19:11:57    2244429

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It's good news. And linking it to the league is correct.

At the end of the day, if you are down in the lower divisions you are there for a reason.

The delusion is coming to an end.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2705 - 19/10/2019 19:35:48    2244433

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "The fans?? There are players and managers in division 3 and 4 who have come out against a tier 2 competition. Where had you your head buried under arock? Get it? arock!! Thanks I'm here all night"
Absolutely, no one asked players or management in my county what they wanted, as far as I'm aware. I know the would say no like they did today..

Longfordbaz (Longford) - Posts: 145 - 19/10/2019 20:04:20    2244437

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Just to everyone condemning today's decision what alternative are you suggesting? Keeping the status quo which was a dead duck in my view or an alternative format?

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2776 - 19/10/2019 20:05:08    2244438

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Replying To sponger:  "It's good news. And linking it to the league is correct.

At the end of the day, if you are down in the lower divisions you are there for a reason.

The delusion is coming to an end."
You think it's bad now????

Longfordbaz (Longford) - Posts: 145 - 19/10/2019 20:05:40    2244439

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "The fans?? There are players and managers in division 3 and 4 who have come out against a tier 2 competition. Where had you your head buried under arock? Get it? arock!! Thanks I'm here all night"
Well no matter what you or the few serial malcontents and knuckledraggers say the counties wanted it and voted for it time to move on.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4513 - 19/10/2019 20:10:39    2244442

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "The fans?? There are players and managers in division 3 and 4 who have come out against a tier 2 competition. Where had you your head buried under arock? Get it? arock!! Thanks I'm here all night"
Hehe.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17155 - 19/10/2019 20:15:23    2244445

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Perhaps give Virgin these matches, they might put good coverage into it, RTE definitely won't, and TG4 is in Irish so you lost the neutral fan there

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 146 - 19/10/2019 20:18:18    2244447

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Replying To arock:  "I think it is given the counties what they want, people make a mistake in thinking because they don't like it as fans that players don't like - not so. BTW the GPA represents themselves (a narrow band of "elite" players) the GPA doesn't represent the players or the GAA end off, their primary goal is to screw the GAA for as much money as they can get. The counties involved asked the GAA for this, they voted for it, so if fans are unhappy take it up with their own county boards. Finally someone is listening, if players do not want to play in it, don't worry plenty in each county to replace them and in time it will be as much a part of summer as it always has been. A chance for these counties to develop and grow without the suffocating demands of Senior 1 Inter-county sucking the life out out of the counties in question."
Do you honestly think county teams will grow playing against themselves in a straight knockout competition that will be won by teams relegated from Division Two ? The games will be played in front of empty stadia with minimal coverage. Half of the countries teams have now been thrown in to a Joe McDonagh Cup. Congress has once again shown itself up for the brainless gathering it is .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5214 - 19/10/2019 20:28:20    2244450

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Replying To wexico15:  "Just to everyone condemning today's decision what alternative are you suggesting? Keeping the status quo which was a dead duck in my view or an alternative format?"
Wait until the Fixtures Review release their proposals.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 19/10/2019 20:39:45    2244453

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Complete joke. It will collapse. I'm all in favour of a second tier. But for it to have any prestige,teams must enter it from the start of the year, not fall through a trapdoor into it. Its like when you have "the shield" in kids games. I expect mass exodus of players when provincial end . If the GAA had day down and said let's think of a proposal that will send players to America , this is it. In fact by basing it on this year's league , the GAA is effectively saying "we want to give you a chance to avoid this crap competition"

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 685 - 19/10/2019 20:42:47    2244454

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An article on this website quoting Horan saying Leitrim and Wicklow approached him to create this comp, was that players or boards, and what did they say?

fairly_shook (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 19/10/2019 20:43:33    2244455

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "Perhaps give Virgin these matches, they might put good coverage into it, RTE definitely won't, and TG4 is in Irish so you lost the neutral fan there"
TG4 being in Irish wouldn't put anyone off who wanted to watch it. If there's a GAA game on the telly and you're interested in it, you'll watch it even if it's in Klingon.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 574 - 19/10/2019 20:45:45    2244457

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Replying To arock:  "Well no matter what you or the few serial malcontents and knuckledraggers say the counties wanted it and voted for it time to move on."
8 of the counties that will be involved in it voted against it.

Grand for division 1 teams to vote for it when it's nothing to do with them.

The qualifiers were a great way of the weaker counties getting a run.

Now there will be no chance for many counties of championship. Imagine drawing Dublin in leinster and then you are thrown into the losers cup.

Off to the states for loads of div 3,4 players.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1204 - 19/10/2019 20:57:58    2244458

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This is definitely the end for the weaker counties. Whatever about competing with the likes of Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone before, there wont be even an opportunity for it now and players in said tier 2 counties will fall away from county football in droves. I cant believe on how lopsided the whole game has got... just over 20 years ago you could say anyone on any given day could give the likes of Dublin or Kerry a game, the bumper crowds at championship games at smaller venues, the atmosphere. Teams like Leitrim winning connacht in 1994, Offaly winning leinster in 1997, these will be be long distant memories now. its a pity but i suppose it shows in general the way the country is going at the moment, the Big get bigger and the small are getting smaller and thrown to the side.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 514 - 19/10/2019 21:05:12    2244460

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I reckon the teams in nexts season division 2 will be looking to be relegated and the teams in division 3 will be looking to be not promoted so the will be able to play in this new all ireland championship. It will realisticlly be the only chance some of these counties have of ever winning an all Ireland championship.
By the way this tier 2 championship should be called the all Ireland intermediate championship. There is nothing like the title of all Ireland in the name of a competition.The Tommy Murphy cup sounded just like a tournament.

edu (Mayo) - Posts: 10 - 19/10/2019 21:37:58    2244464

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The GAA will never get any awards for innovation; another rehashed competition that will do nothing for weaker counties except create a bigger gap between top teams and those further down the pecking order; looked at how poorly structured the hurling championship is, no coverage, no interest from media, need I say more. I mean wicklow ran kildare close in this years championship while longford and carlow have done really well in championship and qualifiers in recent years. Dublin are way ahead in leinster but there isn't much between the rest. I fully agree with the weaker counties that were against it; they have read it right.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1198 - 19/10/2019 21:40:35    2244465

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