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Format Of Club Championships 2020

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Replying To soreknee:  "I think the decision will be made next week. A lot of teams back training anyway just in case.
Looking like 2 rounds of football and possibly one hurling?"
2 rounds in April ruin the club championship, can you imagine a team losing 2 games, all you'll see is lads booking flights to America for the summer

Moorehead (Westmeath) - Posts: 104 - 15/01/2020 18:22:04    2260056

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Replying To Moorehead:  "2 rounds in April ruin the club championship, can you imagine a team losing 2 games, all you'll see is lads booking flights to America for the summer"
Sure it will be grand, nothing agreed yet but whats new. Underage (odds or evens) still hanging and clubs trying to find coaches for teams and still not knowing what age groups will be for year ahead. Groundhog day yet again.

Convert2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 12 - 16/01/2020 08:42:39    2260129

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Yes it does ruin our club championship which has been excellent over the last number of years.

Unfortunately with the possibility of Westmeath playing longer in the summer in a Tier 2 championship & with the first round of Leinster club matches brought back two weeks, there is no alternative.

Change on this issue will need to come from the top level in the GAA. For club football to prosper in the future, the number of inter county matches needs to seriously reduce. However, the GAA will not bite the hand that feeds it.

ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 16/01/2020 09:06:59    2260131

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Replying To ondeball:  "Yes it does ruin our club championship which has been excellent over the last number of years.

Unfortunately with the possibility of Westmeath playing longer in the summer in a Tier 2 championship & with the first round of Leinster club matches brought back two weeks, there is no alternative.

Change on this issue will need to come from the top level in the GAA. For club football to prosper in the future, the number of inter county matches needs to seriously reduce. However, the GAA will not bite the hand that feeds it."
You say there's no alternative but I'm not convinced. If memory serves me right both st lomans and garrycastle had a 5 week break between group stage and semi final and another 3 week break between semi final and final. I know there were quarter finals played in that time too but why not play every 2 weeks and that's an 8 week window broken down to a 6 week window straight away and your Leinster championship will start 2 weeks after the county final like always and there's that problem solved

Iarmhi04 (Westmeath) - Posts: 21 - 16/01/2020 12:48:23    2260180

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Replying To Iarmhi04:  "You say there's no alternative but I'm not convinced. If memory serves me right both st lomans and garrycastle had a 5 week break between group stage and semi final and another 3 week break between semi final and final. I know there were quarter finals played in that time too but why not play every 2 weeks and that's an 8 week window broken down to a 6 week window straight away and your Leinster championship will start 2 weeks after the county final like always and there's that problem solved"
You obviously think dual players don't exist.

Lets deal with facts. Here was the fixture list from last year:

17th/18th August - Football R5 Group Stage
30/31st August - Hurling R5 Group Stage
7th/8th September -Football Quarter Final
15th September - Hurling Quarter Final
21st/22nd September - Football Semi Finals
29th September - Hurling Semi Final
13th October - Football Final
20th October - Hurling Final

A dual player played every week up to the semi-finals. This is before any allowance for potential playoffs & replys.

Now add in Westmeath potentially staying longer in the championship, losing a weekend due to the Fleadh and the club championship being brought back two weeks.

So no, the problem is not solved.

ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 16/01/2020 16:12:44    2260251

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Replying To ondeball:  "You obviously think dual players don't exist.

Lets deal with facts. Here was the fixture list from last year:

17th/18th August - Football R5 Group Stage
30/31st August - Hurling R5 Group Stage
7th/8th September -Football Quarter Final
15th September - Hurling Quarter Final
21st/22nd September - Football Semi Finals
29th September - Hurling Semi Final
13th October - Football Final
20th October - Hurling Final

A dual player played every week up to the semi-finals. This is before any allowance for potential playoffs & replys.

Now add in Westmeath potentially staying longer in the championship, losing a weekend due to the Fleadh and the club championship being brought back two weeks.

So no, the problem is not solved."
Given that championships are being squeezed from both sides as you say, games in April are understandable, even though I'd prefer if they didn't have to happen. But, if they do put games on in April, I think it's really unfair for teams to not know until mid January that this will be the case. Training regimes will be completely different depending on what stage of the season it is and coaches will need to alter their training schedules accordingly. I don't see why this couldn't have been decided a couple of months ago and at least everyone would know where they stood and could plan properly for it.

anon (None) - Posts: 326 - 17/01/2020 09:19:24    2260386

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