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Replying To bad.monkey:  "The maasive 'commitment' put in by GAA players - its no more and often less than other people involved in unprofessional sport in Ireland - boxing, running, cycling, rowing ..etc"
Agreed with often less big days in the sun to boot

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5069 - 23/02/2018 17:40:43    2079536

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Club championships are far superior to intercounty. The changes made to the intercounty championships over the last 20 years have made it only the elite can win either code now

No hurling or football should be played before 1st March. It's ridiculous playing this time of the year in mud baths and freezing weather.

Cynical fouling is just as bad in hurling as football

The sin bin should be brought into both codes instead of the black card. Black card is no disadvantage to a team now

Championship should be straight knock out with the league as the more prestigious competition. It's the better competition of the 2

tonorio (Offaly) - Posts: 580 - 23/02/2018 18:15:32    2079540

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1. Dublin do not receive enough funding from the GAA. They can't afford to ensure another 75 years of dominance unless the GAA put their hand in their pockets and stop short changing the capital.

2. Hurling should be banned. Nothing good ever came from messing around with sticks

Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 74 - 23/02/2018 18:36:03    2079544

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Replying To waynoI:  "I've another one.

Diarmuid Connolly, cracking footballer, not consistent enough to be considered among the greats but on his day he is different class."
Careful now :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6985 - 23/02/2018 18:55:44    2079548

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I've another (may keep them coming)

hurling isn't a great game.

it's fast because you leather a ball 100 yards in one go but it's helped cause of a light sliotar.. it's more like watching 28 headless chickens at times. All the skills that people rave about are skills everyone can improve with practice, their skills aren't any more impressive than what ronnie osullivan can do with a cue ball, or the way phil Taylor could nail 180s in darts

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 12949 - 23/02/2018 19:28:26    2079558

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Replying To realdub:  "Careful now :D"
let me clarify...

on his day. he is the greatest dublin footballer I've seen. the most talented footballer I've seen. period.

however.

he isn't consistent enough. That's all. not consistent enough to be labelled the greatest ever dublin player in my opinion. consistency is his problem. well. unless he is up on disciplinary charges. he is up on them quite a lot unfortunately

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 12949 - 23/02/2018 19:30:18    2079559

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Monaghan are a very lucky team. Discuss

foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 115 - 23/02/2018 19:36:23    2079561

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If GAA top brass aren't cateful the intercounty scene will be dead by 2030. They plan to create a top tier of elite counties and care little about narrowing standards between top and bottom.

By 2030 GAA people in so-called weaker counties will ignore inter-county games and concentrate on their clubs. A pessimistic opinion I know but there's some gap in the love of grassroots people looking after their clubs and top brass not looking out for standards in all counties.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 4764 - 23/02/2018 19:51:17    2079564

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Replying To waynoI:  "let me clarify...

on his day. he is the greatest dublin footballer I've seen. the most talented footballer I've seen. period.

however.

he isn't consistent enough. That's all. not consistent enough to be labelled the greatest ever dublin player in my opinion. consistency is his problem. well. unless he is up on disciplinary charges. he is up on them quite a lot unfortunately"
Only yankin' your chain Wayne, I would tend to agree with you, BB is in a different league in that respect so I know what you're saying.

Now on the hurling matter, couldn't agree less, the deft touch needed at the top level is as silken as any other skill in sport IMO.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6985 - 23/02/2018 20:29:54    2079578

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Certain referees favour certain teams for certain reasons.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3375 - 23/02/2018 21:03:05    2079582

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Replying To waynoI:  "I've another (may keep them coming)

hurling isn't a great game.

it's fast because you leather a ball 100 yards in one go but it's helped cause of a light sliotar.. it's more like watching 28 headless chickens at times. All the skills that people rave about are skills everyone can improve with practice, their skills aren't any more impressive than what ronnie osullivan can do with a cue ball, or the way phil Taylor could nail 180s in darts"
What Ronnie of sullivan has many would consider genius.
There are players who have played most sports who are outstanding and make the game look easy. When you look at any game played by mediocre players it will not appear great. The game is not what makes it great it's the mastery of the skills that make it something special.
Hurling played at the highest level is up there with any sporting occasion anywhere.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 1790 - 23/02/2018 21:19:27    2079589

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Monaghan are a very lucky team. Discuss"
In order to begrudge one has to be looking up

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 626 - 23/02/2018 21:27:53    2079592

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I hate free kicks out of the hand. They're easier to do than the kick off the ground. The justification, that they 'speed up the game', is not worth the loss of the 'high noon' drama, the test of nerve and the test of pure skill that is a good old-fashioned free off the ground. And every player that takes a kick out of the hand always steals a few yards and always straightens the angle. So it's also basically legalised cheating. If you just want to pass the ball, you should have the option out of the hand, but if you're going for the score, put the ball down, take a few steps back, let the crowd go silent, scowl at the target, step up and bang it over. The mark of a real player. Scoring out of the hand is a dull cop out.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 478 - 23/02/2018 21:55:30    2079597

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The amount of funding given to Dublin by the GAA, at the expense of the rest of the country, is a disgrace & harmful to the GAA in the long run.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4719 - 23/02/2018 22:11:38    2079600

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Replying To essmac:  "I hate free kicks out of the hand. They're easier to do than the kick off the ground. The justification, that they 'speed up the game', is not worth the loss of the 'high noon' drama, the test of nerve and the test of pure skill that is a good old-fashioned free off the ground. And every player that takes a kick out of the hand always steals a few yards and always straightens the angle. So it's also basically legalised cheating. If you just want to pass the ball, you should have the option out of the hand, but if you're going for the score, put the ball down, take a few steps back, let the crowd go silent, scowl at the target, step up and bang it over. The mark of a real player. Scoring out of the hand is a dull cop out."
Wouldn't agree with you on it being easier.
I would suggest there are more moving parts involved when kicking out of the hand and more room for error.
Of course the top free takers will generally put them over out of the hand but I'd reckon the best free takers have taken them off the ground and would say the same.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 1790 - 23/02/2018 22:20:07    2079603

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "What Ronnie of sullivan has many would consider genius.
There are players who have played most sports who are outstanding and make the game look easy. When you look at any game played by mediocre players it will not appear great. The game is not what makes it great it's the mastery of the skills that make it something special.
Hurling played at the highest level is up there with any sporting occasion anywhere."
It's better.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 4764 - 23/02/2018 22:26:19    2079604

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1. Mayo won't win an all Ireland unless they drop Kevin McLoughlin and Seamus O Shea.

2. The CPA are an embarrassment.

3. Joe Brolly is great.

4. Football is now an average game to watch.

5. There should be 16 teams max competing for the Sam Maguire.

6. I would rather Dublin win 1 Liam McCarthy than another 10 Sam Maguires.

7. I can't ever see Waterford winning Liam.

8. I hate the idea of the all Ireland in August.

9. Dublin hurling is 5 years away from competing for the all Ireland.

10. Short puckouts in hurling should be banned.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 24/02/2018 03:46:11    2079621

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1. Joe Brolly is a Great pundit

2. Galway will win the double all Ireland in the next five years.

3. Con O'Callaghan will always be better than David Clifford.

4. Killkenney will never win another all-Ireland under Brian Cody.

5. The Super 8 competition will be Great Craic with brilliant games.

6. New Hurling Championship is bad, but won't be as awful as people make out.

7. Lee Chin is the best Hurler at the moment in Ireland.

8. Joe Canning is overrated.

9. Mayo footballers need a new Management. (Steven Rochford should manage another County)

10. Tyrone and Donegal are the cause of Dead Rubber matches and Blanket Defense.

11. Jim McGuinnes nearly killed Football.

12. Waterford's style of Hurling is enjoyable to watch.

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 718 - 24/02/2018 10:31:05    2079635

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football snobs are as bad as hurling snobs sometimes worse
Says a lot when someone would rather watch pitch ballet sorry I mean soccer than a hurling game

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5069 - 24/02/2018 10:55:23    2079637

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Replying To waynoI:  "I've another (may keep them coming)

hurling isn't a great game.

it's fast because you leather a ball 100 yards in one go but it's helped cause of a light sliotar.. it's more like watching 28 headless chickens at times. All the skills that people rave about are skills everyone can improve with practice, their skills aren't any more impressive than what ronnie osullivan can do with a cue ball, or the way phil Taylor could nail 180s in darts"
Agree.

Hurling is actually a poor sporting spectacle. Any sport where the main tactic of both teams is to drive it in close to the opposition scoring zone and hope you get a break in there is a very limited sport and not in fact entertaining. Northern hemisphere rugby falls into the same category. Soccer and football are better than both IMO

Also the famed skill required for hurling is only applicable when learning the game. Once this has been done, scoring in hurling is actually far easier than football, and the basic skills are easier than football.

why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 24/02/2018 10:58:17    2079638

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