With very poor support play and seldom any runners getting forward at pace, how do we expect to get enough scores. We are so static at times. We neither attack nor defend with real purpose or in numbers. A lot of ball wasted in first half hoofing it into forwards. Backs second to most balls second half. Apart from the purple patch before half time, we have only a 50 minute performance against Kildare to be positive about for the 2014 championship season.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/08/2014 20:16:01    1630082

lads wake up manager should pick team that is hard to beat first. clueless all year. killed by monaghan killed by d dubs ten kicks into kepperrs hand fs half and beat by 5lads wake up lets get behind a good manager mod is out of his depth and all these players will waste career under a nobody who clearly has no clue

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 02/08/2014 20:31:26    1630094

Let's call a spade a shovel here.
The current team is not up to it, the players have shown that over a period of years.
I'm not suggesting there are better players being overlooked, there probably aren't.
However what is there is a long way of the pace ad unlikely ever to get up to the pace.
Colm O'Rourke mentioned in a Sunday Independent column recently that many years ago he had put proposals to the county board in relation to fitness and strength and conditioning only to be told it would cost too much to implement, Rourkey suggested that it would cost even more now seeing where we are at.
I am not one to advocate changing manager every time a result or two goes wrong, however tonight MOD and his crew had their tactical limitations exposed.
Time and time again we continued trying to short pass our ay through a defence that at times conssited of thirteen outfielders and a goalie.
The definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing and expect different results, which si precisely what we tried tonight.
Hav we nobody with the confidence to have a go for a point from thirty or forty metres out, we had ample ball in that area tonight and yet short passed it all the time.
The instruction to do that had to come from the line.
On and off the pitch tonight we were remarkably poor.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 02/08/2014 20:40:26    1630107

Not for sacking the management..but I think the reality needs to be realised. MOD has tried change but i think tactics have been terrible and Meath are shipping loses never experienced before. And its getting to a stange of disbelief

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 02/08/2014 20:40:38    1630108

Well lads you wasting your time talking logic about micko on here as this is what we have to look forward to for next 3 years if ziggy royaldunne and jinxie have their way.
Micko should go tonight it would be the best thing he could do for meath football. If not he MUST be fired.
No more of this, he never should have got the job he is way out of his depth we have gone backwards big time even since banty. If he remains another year we will fall further behind. Change now. Andy mcentee darran fay gg anyone jesus even banty would be better than this. Wasted 2 years.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 02/08/2014 20:46:57    1630120

meath are now a joke fair playto armagh we gave d ball away all day get rid of this joke and move on look at armagh playing simple football ,meath all over d place goin backward. co. board look . at crowd nobody goin to watch that team no young lads c ing anything to make them want to b a meath player get rid now move on andif we have two gothrough 20 managers toget d rightone so be it. why wait 2 years mod is not up to it tactics players prove that, meath now have no style of playno. settled team no plan a or b its a joke,nice to c kildare playin welland learned lessons and moved on bolton black card a joke v good player

matthematx (Meath) - Posts: 177 - 02/08/2014 20:48:31    1630125

@ Lobinstownman

I would say 2008 was the worse year for Meath in a long time.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 02/08/2014 20:56:44    1630138

02/08/2014 20:48:31
matthematx
County: Meath
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meath are now a joke fair playto armagh we gave d ball away all day get rid of this joke and move on look at armagh playing simple football ,meath all over d place goin backward. co. board look . at crowd nobody goin to watch that team no young lads c ing anything to make them want to b a meath player get rid now move on andif we have two gothrough 20 managers toget d rightone so be it. why wait 2 years mod is not up to it tactics players prove that, meath now have no style of playno. settled team no plan a or b its a joke,nice to c kildare playin welland learned lessons and moved on bolton black card a joke v good player


At last someone with same opinion. Lads will say stability. That's bs. If it takes 20 managers in 20 years to get it right let's do it. This is the worst we have ever had. And two more years of regression will have no benefit to the next manager. We might salvage something over next few years if we get rid now.
Micko can do the best thing he has done for meath football and resign , let's not have the county board remove him. He is not upto the job surely he can see this.
We need a real manager , a tactically aware manager, a manager with a plan a never mind b , and above all a manager who plays players in their best positions.

foreverroyal (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 02/08/2014 21:26:40    1630192

1st of all I agree with most of what was said here but no way goin have some1 say Colm o rouke put forward this and that let's b truth here he was offered job but turned it down 4 what do u think????

Header33 (Meath) - Posts: 233 - 02/08/2014 21:31:43    1630198

My point was that O'Rourke had put forward structures which he believed if implemented would have us on a par in the physical stakes with other counties and Barney and the Bean Counters said it would cost too much.
Success does come at a price.
The fact that O'Rourke was or was not offered or interested in managing the team is completely irrelevant to that,.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 02/08/2014 21:40:07    1630222

hard to believe but this is a fair reflection as to where Meath football is at present, yet again we knew what was coming from Armagh and what did we do: exactly as Armagh would hope we would. Meath looked a demoralised bunch out there today, no leadership on or off the field. No progress whatsoever over last two years. This group of players and management have little future. The only thing that will keep MoD in a job is the lack of appetite for change within the county. Things have not looked so bleak since we lost to Limerick

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 02/08/2014 21:47:36    1630243

Hard to blame any particular players, as a team the are just not nearly good enough. But even allowing for that most decent management can set up a team to be competitive. Armagh to their great credit learned from mistakes of last season, are know able to hold their own with most

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 02/08/2014 22:01:40    1630289

NO MARKING..... NO LEADERS ON THE FIELD....NO TEAMWORK,,,,15 INDIVIDUALS PLAYING WITH SAME COLOUR JERSEY.... MAJORITY OF PLAYERS TRIED PUT HAD NO PLAN TO FOLLOW... VERY SERIOUS POSITION NOW FOR MEATH FOOTBALL THAT IS NOW AT ITS LOWEST POINT IN THE LAST 30 YEARS NO LESSONS LEARNED FROM LEINSTER FINAL DISASTER COUNTY BOARD ACT NOW !!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1228 - 02/08/2014 22:05:43    1630290

So another disappointing year,and we showed no response against an Armagh team who frankly did not have to do much to win this game. We can all talk about new managers,gameplans etc etc,but the real problem and main concern for me(for a while now),is the fact that we struggle to get 15 committed players on the field.Once again only about half the team can say they did their best and fought for the jersey,that,for me,is very disappointing,until we can get players who play with heart,drive,committment ect,we will go nowhere,regardless who the manager is.At the same time some players have to go now, without naming names some are just not good enough.Team generally is too soft physically,mentally(bigtime),we have got to three Leinster Finals in a row now,and lost after the final each time against teams that wouldn't be world beaters by any means.Pride in the county is at an all-time low,as a lot of talking is done,but little action on the field.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/08/2014 08:59:38    1630303

Classic forum rubbish by nameless cowards who use the secrecy of this system to vent their anger!the same people who wanted Banty out!the same people who thought we were fantastic after Kildare match!what do we do ,fire everyone?we have the basis of a very good team,of course this year is frustrating but I'm sticking with Micky and co who have the courage to put themselves out there and be counted!

JD1677 (Meath) - Posts: 68 - 03/08/2014 09:04:43    1630304

I've been saying all year that MOD's selections have been poor and today's last nights tactical performance summed it up.

We were chasing the game, 4 points down and he takes off Stephen Bray, Damien Carroll, David Bray and Shane O Rourke. The plays he tasks with winning the game in that vital period?
Brian Meade, Eoghan Harrington, Dalton McDonagh and Joey Wallace. That in itself is nothing short of incredible. It was actually embarrassing. Not one of those players who came on stands out in any way in the meath sfc and none are inter county standard.

Meanwhile Cian and Fiachra Ward are in the stands, Niall McLoughlin, Jamie Queeny, Brian Farrell, Alan Nestor, Sean Tobin, Chris McGuinness, David Geaney, Ruairi O Caoilean, Mark Battersby and others who stand in the Meath SFC aren't even on the panel. Why??? Who knows!!!! But apparently the lads who came on are the ones to save us!

It just beggars belief

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 03/08/2014 09:06:29    1630306

Very very disappointing. Reminds me of the old days when Meath lost a Leinster final and there was an empty feeling on the Bank Holiday Monday. The team seemed to lack any real spirit or fight. Maybe Armagh squeezed it out of them. Once again a team dictates the game for major parts against us and we really didn't look as if we can deal with the defensive approach that Armagh employed.
I didn't hear what happened to Kevin Reilly and his loss was a big disruption but Meath should have had enough to beat this Armagh side. When we attacked with purpose after Graham Reilly's introduction we almost scored at will. We didn't keep it going after half time and when things started to go wrong we made some baffling substitutions. Joey Wallace and Dalton McDonagh for the two Brays was never going to impact on the game.
Going forward we have to be positive and hope that the injuries that plagued us this year will be cleared up next year and that any new ones are less of an impact. Mick O'Dowd will probably stay on unless he decides to call it a day. Some assistance is needed in the back room to try and improve the defence and freshen up things. Hopefully we won't lose Stephen Bray as he is still needed in there.

trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 03/08/2014 09:17:32    1630310

I have said it here before it be 2020 before we can challenge for anything problem is I am now worried if that is an too optimistic. Don't blame ODowd him Kelly and giles are as good as we can Russell up in this county and should stay.. Will they want to is the question ? Raw material not in this county we are a division 2 or 3 side a top 12 or 16 at best our results show it and the clowns we are putting over our under age squads will not help our progress in time

glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1108 - 03/08/2014 09:21:59    1630313

I don't know what to say. Even after a nights sleep things don't look any better. What was the story with Kevin what injury had he?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2014 09:27:47    1630317

1.kevin reilly plays a few misses a few.
2.why was carroll taking off ?? only player that was capable of passing a ball yesterday.
3.why was stephen bray out playing at midfield and we 3 points down ?? maybe because carroll had been taken off for a defender.
4.why was brian meade brought back on ??

Fact is we are probably the 2nd best team in leinster and roughly the 12th best team in ireland but we should be beating armagh on paper,however we seemed to be clueless for most parts of the game yesterday and our game plan was playing right into armaghs hands.hate knocking management but we were novices yesterday compared to the tactics the armagh management used,kildare in fairness learned from their mistakes and weaknesses but we seemed to ignore ours and continue with plan a all the time.it was only when some of the meath players decided to run at armagh late in the first half and early in second half we looked like having a chance but armagh management quickly put 2 players on biggy to sort it out.too many players not up to the mark.

Anyways hard luck lads,now back to club champo.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 03/08/2014 09:34:43    1630323