The All-Ireland Football FINAL vs Ireland/Canada 1st ROUND MATCH. RTE 6.01 News and Sport made Rugby Union the winner on all counts over the last 6 days lead to in to today's match. The Rugby Union 1st Round game was covered more times, given a higher priority and had more time devoted to it in the run in to these two games.

Mon. Rugby - Item 2 - 1 minute 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin Not mentioned 0 minutes 0 seconds
Tues. Rugby - Item 2 - 3minutes 20 seconds Kerry/Dublin Not mentioned 0 minutes 0 seconds
Wed. Rugby - Item 1 - 1 minute 45 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 2 minutes 25 seconds
Thurs. Rugby - Item 1 - 2minutes 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 2 minutes 20 seconds
Fri. Rugby - Item 2 - 3 minutes 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 1 - 8 minutes 20 seconds
Sat. Rugby - Item 1 - 4 minutes 45 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 1 minute 35 seconds

The Rd.1 Rugby match featured on all 6 days - the All-Ireland Final on just 4 days
The Rd.1 Rugby was Item 1 on 3 occasions - the All-Ireland Final was Item 1 on just once
The Rd.1 Rugby was either Item 1 or 2 on all 6 days - the All-Ireland Final was Item 1 once and Item 4 on 3 occasions
The Rd.1 Rugby was given a total of 17 minutes and 20 seconds coverage - the All-Ireland Final just 14 minutes and 40 seconds.

So in all categories RTE gave priority to a game it couldn't even show over a game it is showing. Wouldn't you think they'd be trying to boost their own viewing figures rather than those of TV3. After all don't viewing figures amount to advertising revenue. Or maybe it's just the same old story again. Bias.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 20/09/2015 12:29:53    1789467

ormondbannerman

Not surprised by the usual snobbery. At least the north is acknowledge in OUR Irish flag. Unlike the flag of the precious overlords.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3836 - 20/09/2015 13:39:29    1789487

16/09/2015 16:54:15 AthCliath
Ormond, I dont care about Irelands call, its a compromise tune to keep every one happy.Some people like it, some dont. But an anthem of this Country it is not. Its a rugger tune, (you wont hear it being played at the end of a Disco (thats the clincher for me ;) Im not sad because i hate GSTQ, i cant help it and dont get me started on the UnionJack. If im in a staduim i will tolerate it but thats about it. But sure we all move onRugby tune??? then why has it been adopted for use by other sports then?
It is an anthem of Ireland. How is it not? Fields of Athenry is an anthem of Munster rugby. What makes that qualify as such?
I feel very sad for any person who hates GSTQ and the union jack. Anyone who hates either must have a very low emotional maturity
20/09/2015 12:29:53 mediaman
The All-Ireland Football FINAL vs Ireland/Canada 1st ROUND MATCH. RTE 6.01 News and Sport made Rugby Union the winner on all counts over the last 6 days lead to in to today's match. The Rugby Union 1st Round game was covered more times, given a higher priority and had more time devoted to it in the run in to these two games.
Mon. Rugby - Item 2 - 1 minute 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin Not mentioned 0 minutes 0 seconds
Tues. Rugby - Item 2 - 3minutes 20 seconds Kerry/Dublin Not mentioned 0 minutes 0 seconds
Wed. Rugby - Item 1 - 1 minute 45 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 2 minutes 25 seconds
Thurs. Rugby - Item 1 - 2minutes 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 2 minutes 20 seconds
Fri. Rugby - Item 2 - 3 minutes 30 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 1 - 8 minutes 20 seconds
Sat. Rugby - Item 1 - 4 minutes 45 seconds Kerry/Dublin - Item 4 - 1 minute 35 seconds
The Rd.1 Rugby match featured on all 6 days - the All-Ireland Final on just 4 days
The Rd.1 Rugby was Item 1 on 3 occasions - the All-Ireland Final was Item 1 on just once
The Rd.1 Rugby was either Item 1 or 2 on all 6 days - the All-Ireland Final was Item 1 once and Item 4 on 3 occasions
The Rd.1 Rugby was given a total of 17 minutes and 20 seconds coverage - the All-Ireland Final just 14 minutes and 40 seconds.
So in all categories RTE gave priority to a game it couldn't even show over a game it is showing. Wouldn't you think they'd be trying to boost their own viewing figures rather than those of TV3. After all don't viewing figures amount to advertising revenue. Or maybe it's just the same old story again. Bias. A first round match in an event that takes place once every 4 years. In a year where Ireland are genuine contenders to win the event. RTE don't cover a lot of things that are shown on the news but do so anyway.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/09/2015 14:55:19    1789515

16/09/2015 16:33:44 Greengrass
Ormond that is laughable in it's inconsistency. I presume when you say that Amhran na bhFiann doesn't represent everyone on the island and that the Tricolour doesn't represent everyone on the island you are inferrring that Ireland's Call and the flag of The IRFU both represent everyone on the island. Nothing could be further from the truth. To say Ireland's Call represents everyone on the island is to be deeply dishonest. In not flying the Tricolour and in not playing Amhran na bhFiann The IRFU is denying the traditions of the vast majority of the people in this island. The players represent everyone on the island. Both traditions should be accommodated. At the moment the majority of the population is being snubbed. I appreciate that is not easy to accomodate both traditions but right now The IRFU needs to do better. We are constantly being told that this is the largest sporting event on the planet this year (though many tennis fans in particular would beg to differ). Given that I am represented by my national team I would like to see my flag being flown. Your argument with regards to Flower of Scotland, Land of Our Fathers and God Save The Queen are disingenuous. Having said all that Ormond we'll all be on the same side come Saturday. No it isn't. Amhran na bhfiann isn't the national anthem of Ireland. Irelands Call represents more than Amhran na bhfiann does. The IRFU are an all island body and are not denying anyone anything by not using the tricolour.
There is no better solution and unless someone comes up with something that is better this will stay as what goes on pre match

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/09/2015 14:55:26    1789516

Green grass

Very good and fair post.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 20/09/2015 15:03:28    1789519

Amhran na bhfiann isn't the national anthem of Ireland.


You are the only person that thinks this. Of course it's our national anthem. Just because some up the North don't recognise it as their anthem doesn't prevent it being the national anthem. Singing a song about shoulders before a rugby match doesn't make it a national anthem.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8168 - 20/09/2015 15:06:46    1789520

20/09/2015 15:06:46
GreenandRed
Amhran na bhfiann isn't the national anthem of Ireland.
You are the only person that thinks this. Of course it's our national anthem. Just because some up the North don't recognise it as their anthem doesn't prevent it being the national anthem. Singing a song about shoulders before a rugby match doesn't make it a national anthem. What makes something a national anthem then? What are the component parts of a national anthem??
Amhran na bhfiann isn't the national anthem of Ireland. Its the republics anthem but isn't the entire islands

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/09/2015 16:20:18    1789555

The WASP rugby world cup. You islanders can play as long as your best players play for your bigger neighbours or 6 nations teams if you play club there. Teams such as Georgia Romania Tonga can play but your not playing in our other comps in case you get better than the Ireland Scotland etc old boys club. Teams like Japan are great but 9 of 15 not from Japan. I will watch every game as a sports fan but rugby is more elitist than cricket. Ireland beat canada and you'd swear that was only sport on this weekend. Imagine what it would be like if rugbyte had the coverage.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 20/09/2015 16:31:53    1789559

Are you aware that the international cricket board do not even allow countries like Ireland play Test match cricket let alone compete with the top nations. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 20/09/2015 17:21:31    1789598

No you don't. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world but considered by many to be elitist whereas our media brainwash us into believing Rugby is a worldwide game but is in reality a Minority sport even in its heartland of England and France.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 20/09/2015 17:38:51    1789619

20/09/2015 16:31:53
sceptical
The WASP rugby world cup. You islanders can play as long as your best players play for your bigger neighbours or 6 nations teams if you play club there. Teams such as Georgia Romania Tonga can play but your not playing in our other comps in case you get better than the Ireland Scotland etc old boys club. Teams like Japan are great but 9 of 15 not from Japan. I will watch every game as a sports fan but rugby is more elitist than cricket. Ireland beat canada and you'd swear that was only sport on this weekend. Imagine what it would be like if rugbyte had the coverage. Rugby isn't elitist. Nobody is stopped from playing due to wealth etc.
On other nations. They do play against the top sides in june/November
How many Brazilians play soccer for other countries. How many born and bred English guys have played for Ireland in soccer?
20/09/2015 17:21:31 bad.monkey
Are you aware that the international cricket board do not even allow countries like Ireland play Test match cricket let alone compete with the top nations. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about Ireland don't have background to play test and are off playing that. It isn't elitism that is stopping them. We don't have anywhere near strong enough domestic game to be able play test cricket
20/09/2015 17:38:51
sceptical
No you don't. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world but considered by many to be elitist whereas our media brainwash us into believing Rugby is a worldwide game but is in reality a Minority sport even in its heartland of England and France. rubbish. Have you ever been to southern france and Toulouse/Perpignan/Biarritz etc or in English rugby heartland of Leicester/Barf and Exeter/Gloucester.... rugby is a worldwide sport

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/09/2015 17:59:29    1789630

The ICC are now controlled by India. They have been quite open about not wanting any more test teams as they will have to share the revenue they mainly generate. I am a cricket fsn but it is openly far more elitest than rugby which is open to snyone anywhere

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 20/09/2015 19:13:24    1789698

Funniest comment of the day - rugby is a worldwide sport!!!!! I'm sure in Africa and South America the population will be glued to Tonga versus Fiji......

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 20/09/2015 19:21:05    1789706

bad.monkey
County: USA
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1789598
Are you aware that the international cricket board do not even allow countries like Ireland play Test match cricket let alone compete with the top nations. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about

That's because they're not good enough.

It would be a waste of time allowing Ireland to play test match cricket.

The smaller countries in rugby don't get much opportunity to compete against the top teams either.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 20/09/2015 19:32:01    1789717

Uibhfaili ireland are ranked above Zimbabwe who are are test team and that is even with losing their best players to England precisely because they can not play test cricket fir ireland

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 20/09/2015 19:47:48    1789728

20/09/2015 19:13:24 bad.monkey
The ICC are now controlled by India. They have been quite open about not wanting any more test teams as they will have to share the revenue they mainly generate. I am a cricket fsn but it is openly far more elitest than rugby which is open to snyone anywhere cricket is far mor elitist agreed... revenue sharing is the reason I agree. Not sure just about India not wanting it but the likes of bangledeshis...
20/09/2015 19:21:05
mike03
Funniest comment of the day - rugby is a worldwide sport!!!!! I'm sure in Africa and South America the population will be glued to Tonga versus Fiji...... Uruguay is soccer mad but strong rugby population. Argentina has some areas that are totally rugby dominant....
20/09/2015 19:32:01 uibhfhaili1986
The smaller countries in rugby don't get much opportunity to compete against the top teams either like who exactly?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/09/2015 19:52:30    1789737

It might surprise you to know that there are less senior rugby player's in France Italy and Scotland combined than there are senior gaa players. Get real there are not large numbers of rugby player's in Argentina uraguay or any nation outside of top 8. It's a sport played by expats and those privileged enough to avail of a university education. Cricket has huge numbers including in India and Pakistan hardly elitist then!

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 20/09/2015 20:52:23    1789788

sceptical -. It's a sport played by expats and those privileged enough to avail of a university education.

How true - i mean you never see any GAA players "priviliged" enough to go university or 3rd level- obviously the fitzgibbon and sigerson cup are a figment of our collective imaginations

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/09/2015 10:13:54    1789907

Not only do they not play the national anthem but they now have an Ulster Flag in between the Tricolour and Canadian Flag.

How f***ing ridiculous is that and how low are they prepared to stoop to accommodate less than 20% of the population.

Why didn't they go the whole hog and stick up the 'Norn Irn' Fleg

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 21/09/2015 10:30:35    1789927

20/09/2015 20:52:23 sceptical
It might surprise you to know that there are less senior rugby player's in France Italy and Scotland combined than there are senior gaa players. Get real there are not large numbers of rugby player's in Argentina uraguay or any nation outside of top 8. It's a sport played by expats and those privileged enough to avail of a university education. Cricket has huge numbers including in India and Pakistan hardly elitist then! Where are you pulling those figures from?
There is most certainly high playing numbers in Argentina and other nations like US.
Where is this evidence that rugby is played only by expats/university students
Have you ever been to any of these countries and have proof of this?
21/09/2015 10:13:54
janesboro
sceptical -. It's a sport played by expats and those privileged enough to avail of a university education.

How true - i mean you never see any GAA players "priviliged" enough to go university or 3rd level- obviously the fitzgibbon and sigerson cup are a figment of our collective imaginations HAHAHAHA Fair point....
21/09/2015 10:30:35 bumpernut
Not only do they not play the national anthem but they now have an Ulster Flag in between the Tricolour and Canadian Flag.
How f***ing ridiculous is that and how low are they prepared to stoop to accommodate less than 20% of the population.
Why didn't they go the whole hog and stick up the 'Norn Irn' Fleg jeez. people are fair sectarian here. Where does it state you have to play a national anthem. National anthem isn't played for England or several other nations so why do Ireland have to play the national anthem?
Why the big deal about a flag? Do you watch sport to get upset about flags and songs or to watch the actual sport being played?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/09/2015 11:12:18    1789970