ormondbannerman --RTE losing 6 nations to tv3. showing virtually no live rugby now....

and when it comes in you will still see posters moaning and whinging about rte being biased towards rugby conveniently forgetting rte currently show circa 31-33 live gaa games compared to circa 15-20 live rugby matches -plus sunday game, league sunday, up for the match,thank gaa its friday --they showed live championship draw and all stars - imagine the sense of moral indignation among some posters to this site if rte showed the rwc or european draws --rtey dont even show the rwc pro12 or the champions cup and now wont be showing 6 nations and people are still cribbing they are biased towards rugby

by the way i thought the tv3 coverage and analysis was very good

cant wait for the anti tv3 threads to start now

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2015 15:17:19    1806465

11/11/2015 15:17:19
janesboro
County: Limerick
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cant wait for the anti tv3 threads to start now

Why would they be starting here? Can you not understand this is supposed to be a GAA forum?

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 11/11/2015 15:43:37    1806473

Benched

Why would they be starting here? -- well my friend youd have to admit there is a fair bit of anti RTE on this thread because they are showing rugby

http://hoganstand.com/Forum/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=84&TopicID=89582 -- had a whole 90 pages of it on this thread earlier this year

Can you not understand this is supposed to be a GAA forum? -- yes i do but there are some posters who are more interested in using the thread use this have a pop at rugby than talking GAA

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/11/2015 15:59:01    1806482

i pressume mr nugent has already submitted his two weeks notice
and is looking to transfer to tv3.
Maybe RTE will now look to outbid setanta for the rights to the saturday national league matches

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2015 16:08:32    1806488

How did football and hurling fare on the nation's main daily television news and sports programme (RTE's 6.01 News and Sport) in November. First we look at Frequency. There were 30 programmes in November and there was 1 clear winner.

1. Soccer was included in 29 of the 30 programmes (97% of programmes)
2. Rugby was included in 25 of the 30 programmes (83%)
3. GAA was included in 20 of the 30 programmes (67%)
4. Golf was included in 17 of the 30 programmes (57%)
5. Horse Racing was included in 13 of the 30 programmes (43%)

Thursday November 19th was the only day in the entire month that Soccer did not feature on the programme. Next who claimed the most No.1 Slots?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 01/12/2015 20:08:30    1810942

01/12/2015 20:08:30 mediaman
How did football and hurling fare on the nation's main daily television news and sports programme (RTE's 6.01 News and Sport) in November. First we look at Frequency. There were 30 programmes in November and there was 1 clear winner.
1. Soccer was included in 29 of the 30 programmes (97% of programmes)
2. Rugby was included in 25 of the 30 programmes (83%)
3. GAA was included in 20 of the 30 programmes (67%)
4. Golf was included in 17 of the 30 programmes (57%)
5. Horse Racing was included in 13 of the 30 programmes (43%)
Thursday November 19th was the only day in the entire month that Soccer did not feature on the programme. Next who claimed the most No.1 Slots? Is anyone surprised at Soccer and Rugby dominating in November?
Rugby world cup had just ended. Pro12/champions cup were ongoing/started. Injury reports from professional teams etc etc
GAA is club games only with some news on 2016 county management teams etc.
No surprise GAA is third.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/12/2015 20:34:49    1810951

Surely not???? Soccer the top news item in November. Maybe something happened in soccer in Ireland in November?????

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8178 - 01/12/2015 21:14:51    1810960

Apologists for unfair media treatment of football and hurling are many and as always very predictable. Perhaps someone can explain why in September, the month of an All-Ireland Football S-F Replay, an All-Ireland Hurling Final, an All-Ireland Camogie Final, an All-Ireland Football Final and an All-Ireland Ladies Football Final the Frequency figures for RTE 6.01 News and Sport still favour Soccer and Rugby.

September Frequency
1. Rugby 27 of 30 programmes.
2. Soccer 26 of 30 programmes.
3. GAA 25 of 30 programmes

If the nation's most popular sports can't command the No.1 spot in September what hope is there for the rest of the year.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 02/12/2015 18:19:41    1811116

02/12/2015 18:19:41
mediaman
Apologists for unfair media treatment of football and hurling are many and as always very predictable. Perhaps someone can explain why in September, the month of an All-Ireland Football S-F Replay, an All-Ireland Hurling Final, an All-Ireland Camogie Final, an All-Ireland Football Final and an All-Ireland Ladies Football Final the Frequency figures for RTE 6.01 News and Sport still favour Soccer and Rugby.
September Frequency
1. Rugby 27 of 30 programmes.
2. Soccer 26 of 30 programmes.
3. GAA 25 of 30 programmes
If the nation's most popular sports can't command the No.1 spot in September what hope is there for the rest of the year. Rugby world cup was in September so of course rugby will have such high coverage

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/12/2015 19:17:42    1811135

Apologists for unfair media treatment of football and hurling are many and as always very predictable.

More trolling for someone who ignores the fact that some people might actually like other sports and also like GAA and other sports. Who says RTE is biased, could have a point, but doesn't criticise other media. From someone who claims dubious 'facts'about GAA media coverage or the lack of it, claims to be from the home of the All Ireland football champions, but has no opinion on GAA playing matters on the nations Number one GAA forum.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8178 - 02/12/2015 21:07:34    1811155

RTE journalists spend a lot of time deciding what item deserves the No.1 spot in bulletins so here is the outcome of the RTE 6.01 News and Sport decisions for the 30 days of November.

1. Soccer - Lead item on 16 of 30 programmes (53%
2. Rugby - Lead item on 7 of 30 programmes (23%)
3. GAA - Lead item on 3 of 30 programmes (10%)
4. Golf - lead item on 2 of 30 programmes (7%)
5=. Athletics and Hockey - 1 lead item each (3.5% each)

Two of the three GAA pole positions were in the lead in to the International Rules/Shinty - Hurling Internationals interesting considering the abuse the GAA has received in the print media over its attempts to spread our games to an international audience. What is the agenda there?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 05/12/2015 21:44:31    1811625

Good analysis Mediaman. However Id have two suggestions. GAA unlike soccer and rugby isn't a sport. It is a sporting organisation representing at least two sports more popular (in terms of playing numbers)than rugby. So a breakdown showing Hurling and Gaelic Football stats would be even more revealing. And if it were possible an indication whether the coverage was negative. e.g.the incident in Fenway park got a few mentions on the RTE Six One sports section.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/12/2015 21:46:29    1812433

It all comes down to market demand, where advertising goes. There will be some battle for peoples' hearts next Summer with the Olympics and Euro 2016 on at the same time as the championships.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 480 - 11/12/2015 10:48:51    1812611

One of the national newspapers online described today's Liverpool soccer match as 'ugly' but for some reason the headline was later changed and the word 'ugly' removed. Even better RTE failed to show any of the controversial moments at the end of the game. Odd considering that tomorrow's papers will be full of it. But then RTE prefers to tear into the GAA rather than unedifying events in other sports. Protectionism is what it's called.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 13/12/2015 21:42:46    1812866

Protectionism. Very good. You should do stand-up.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8178 - 14/12/2015 10:38:33    1812882

The figures for the amount of time devoted to different sports on RTE's 6.01 News and Sport in November show one interesting change from the previous month. In total almost 184 minutes of sport was broadcast on the programme in November.

1. Soccer - 68 minutes and 50 seconds - 38%
2. Gaelic Games - 30 minutes and 35 seconds - 17%
3. Rugby Union - 24 minutes and 5 seconds - 13%
4. Horse Racing - 13 minutes and 55 seconds - 8%
5. Golf - 10 minutes and 55 seconds - 6%

The main difference is that Gaelic Games moved up into second place courtesy of the Provincial Club Finals and the International matches. Rugby's fall can be attributed to a hangover from the Rugby Union World Cup failure and the club failures during the month as well. Not even RTE could disguise those.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 14/12/2015 20:48:17    1812952

14/12/2015 20:48:17 mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:255 -
The figures for the amount of time devoted to different sports on RTE's 6.01 News and Sport in November show one interesting change from the previous month. In total almost 184 minutes of sport was broadcast on the programme in November.
1. Soccer - 68 minutes and 50 seconds - 38%
2. Gaelic Games - 30 minutes and 35 seconds - 17%
3. Rugby Union - 24 minutes and 5 seconds - 13%
4. Horse Racing - 13 minutes and 55 seconds - 8%
5. Golf - 10 minutes and 55 seconds - 6%
The main difference is that Gaelic Games moved up into second place courtesy of the Provincial Club Finals and the International matches. Rugby's fall can be attributed to a hangover from the Rugby Union World Cup failure and the club failures during the month as well. Not even RTE could disguise those.I still find it said that you run a twitter account and calculate these stats.. Have you ever contacted RTE with your stats on alleged biases?
Of course rugby wouldn't have too much coverage in November compared to previous months. Provinces started Europe but after a world cup there is bound to be less coverage. no hangover over failures just simply less to report on

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/12/2015 21:05:14    1812954

Mediaman, I like having the occasional read of your stats and I am inclined to agree that some sports do have higher focus than their position/participation warrants but the last line in your post, Rugby's fall can be attributed to a hangover from the Rugby Union World Cup failure and the club failures during the month as well. Not even RTE could disguise those. is a tad petty and makes this thread seem more of an anti rugby agenda rather than a pro-gaa / pro better coverage.

You focused on rugby which is played on the island of Ireland but ignore the blanket coverage of a sport played on distant shores with increasingly few Irish men in those elite ranks maybe the focus of your ire should switch to that.

duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 15/12/2015 09:12:58    1812961

An earlier post 13/12/15 outlined how RTE failed to cover an unsavoury incident at the end of a recent Premier League soccer match and today's RTE 6.01 News and Sport experienced another lapse. A Leinster Rugby player was cited for foul play but for some unexplained reason the actual citing incident wasn't shown. Odd that considering the positive coverage shown over the next 90 seconds of the same Rugby Union item. Now compare that to less serious incidents during the summer when Gaelic Games incidents were replayed ad nauseum. Remember the hair tousling incident? That's what this thread is all about. The bias in coverage of different sports. Bias is as much about what they don't show as what they do.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 15/12/2015 21:45:42    1813087

What unsavory incident are you talking about specifically? Gardner going full-blooded and fair for a ball which unfortunately resulted in Lovren's injury? Or Klopp not shaking Pulis's hand when the game finished? That was more unsavoury for me than Gardiner's collision with Lovren. More than one way to get points in the Premier League Jurgen so you'll have to find ways of scoring against a quality well-organized defense. I think it was unsporting not to shake Pulis's hand.

Anyways Mediaman, a great Dublin player retired this week. How are RTE doing covering that particular story?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8178 - 16/12/2015 16:41:43    1813189