Are you for real you said on hoganstand after the cup final that Mccauley hadn't played well for the last year and you didn't want him starting the next day now your saying "oh I only said he nearly cost us the game last weekend" your not being honest, Jim is trying new lads out in a first round league game taking off Bastick Cooper and Costello was not the losing of the game there was only a kick of ball between both sides all afternoon and it could of gone either way but Cork fair play just edged it , it happens but for you to say I wont travel anymore cause of Jim trying new kids is a disgrace you should be ashamed of yourself for that comment, if that's your attitude after a first round league defeat you probably should stop going to matches with that fickle attitude.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/02/2015 13:11:10    1689169

C'mon lads.. leave it out

Only round 1 of the league...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/02/2015 13:17:49    1689172

Re: "I would fully expect us to beat Donegal and qualify for league semi."

I heard chat like this before, last August I think..! ;-)

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9869 - 02/02/2015 13:18:51    1689175

cuederocket
County: Dublin
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Lads its a pity we cudnt end that losing streak Leeside,but hill i think your going a bit overboard on this(to be fair you did travel so i can understand your frustration).Making those changes,in hindsight,looks like poor decision making,but those 15 minutes may well stand to some of them young lads like McHugh who came on.It is good to see Jim trying out lads in the heat of battle.Being the canny operator he is,hell have learned a few things about some of them.Im sure it is good for the moral of all these young lads who got a run out.They know their not just training to make up the numbers.
Have to say i was never a fan of Bastick(although forever grateful for setting up Brogans 2nd goal v Mayo).Decent engine but very limited in the skills department.I wouldnt fancy him v Aidan O Shea or David Moran.They would clean him out.We need a better man to go with McCauley.I have full faith in Jim Gavin.Yesterday was but a blip in the greater scheme of things.I would fully expect us to beat Donegal and qualify for league semi.

not going overboard to be honest
i made a point and clondalkin has taken that point to heart because mr gavin is a fellow club member.
its one thing giving guys their chance im all for it
but do they all need to be thrown into the deep end on the one day?
we have seven league games, thats plenty of time to blood guys.
the game was there to be won, id rather win the game and introduce guys like mchugh,fenton and so on next time out.
if the same attitude is shown next saturday about not caring about the result
then i wouldnt fancy us to beat donegal, as they clearly upped their game in the second half to win the game on saturday.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/02/2015 13:45:12    1689195

clondalkindub


did you read my post?
i said carthy and bastick deserved to start ahead of mccauley
and that he nearly cost us the game against kildare
you must have been up late watching the superbowl as your missing a fair chunk of it.
yes i did also say last week that mccauley's form was poor all last year
did i deny saying that? he was poor!
you feel taking off three of our five experianced players on the pitch
and throwing in 2 newcomers and a guy out of position wasnt the loosing of the game?
yes cork kicked on simply beause they sent in kerrigan and hayes to win the game
two experinced players who made an impact, its not rocket science.
did i say i wont travel anymore to a game?
show me where i said that please?
what i said was it would put you off travelling to away games if the manager doesnt care about the outcome of the game!
whats wrong with that point? if i bother to take time and money to attend the least i expect is the manager to try and win.
my attiude your the one basically dismissing the importance of the league
im the one who can see clearly that since 2010 we have given the league the respect it deserves
and have profited in the championship as a result
its dangerous going back to the days of the 00tys where we were not able to flick it on like a switch
just like in 2012 where we played poor in the league and never got going in the chamionship
apart from 20 minutes to go against mayo in the semi final.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/02/2015 13:58:57    1689205

Lots of people on here were blaming Dublin's demise last year to the fact that they steamrolled everyone last year and the subs were arriving on and kicking handy scores against beaten teams. The story was that they weren't used to having to come on and win a game.

Yesterday he created a situation where the subs came on and the failed to close out the game. A lesson learned for those players. Dublin will qualify for the semi finals if they want to. A very gutsy move by Gavin to create a game situation to test the young players out. He has obviously learned form last year. Some Dublin poster clearly haven't. Doesn't say much for Cork though.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1488 - 02/02/2015 15:28:36    1689252

My predictions for next weekend...

DIV ONE

Dublin to beat Donegal
Kerry to beat Derry
Monaghan to beat Cork
Mayo to beat Tyrone

DIV TWO

Meath v Kildare (Draw)
Cavan to beat Laois
Roscommon to beat Down
Galway to beat Westmeath

DIV THREE

Tipp to beat Limerick
Clare to beat Louth
Fermanagh to beat Sligo
Armagh to beat Wexford

DIV FOUR

Carlow to beat London
Leitrim to beat Wicklow
Longford to beat Antrim
Offaly to beat Waterford

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 02/02/2015 16:35:10    1689295

DIV ONE

Dublin v Donegal - Donegal
Derry v Kerry - Kerry
Monaghan v Cork - Monaghan
Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo

DIV TWO

Meath v Kildare - Meath
Laois v Ceavan - Ceaavan
Roscommon v Down - Down
Westmeath v Galway - Galway

DIV THREE

Tipperary v Limerick - Tipp
Wexford v Armagh - Armagh
Sligo v Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Louth v Clare - Clare

DIV FOUR

Carlow v London - London
Wicklow v Leitrim - Wicklow
Longford v Antrim - Draw
Offaly v Waterford - Offaly

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13655 - 02/02/2015 16:53:44    1689311

Have nearly a week to mull over these outrageous predictions already and its only Monday!!!!!

Dublin v Donegal - Dublin to win
Monaghan v Cork - Monaghan to win
Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo to win
Derry v Kerry - Derry to win

Laois v Cavan - Cavan to win
Down v Roscommon - Down to win
Meath v Kildare - Kildare to win
Westmeath v Galway - Galway to win

Tipperary v Limerick - Tipperary to win
Wexford v Armagh - Armagh to win
Sligo v Fermanagh - Fermanagh to win
Louth v Clare - Louth to win

Carlow v London - Carlow to win
Wicklow v Leitrim - Wicklow to win
Longford v Antrim - DRAW
Offaly v Waterford - Offaly to win

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 02/02/2015 16:54:54    1689312

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 5716

great to see a Mayo win today playing football the way it's suppose to be played. I'd actually love to see Mayo win Sam this year great team that were robbed last year.

It didn't take long for the old chestnut about "playing football the way it's supposed to be played" to get an airing.

Would someone please tell me, who decided how football is meant to be played?

Rant over I agree with you about Mayo, the Muckross millions are on them this year.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/02/2015 17:32:06    1689336

DIV ONE

Dublin v Donegal - Donegal on this weeks action look to be the ones taking the league more seriously.
Derry v Kerry - Kerry- a long trip north but Derry look like they could struggle
Monaghan v Cork - Monaghan just because they are at home. Be very close though
Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo - going on yesterday anything other than a convincing Mayo win would be a shock

DIV TWO

Meath v Kildare - Kildare
Laois v Ceavan - Cavan
Roscommon v Down - Roscommon
Westmeath v Galway - Galway

DIV THREE

Tipperary v Limerick - Tipp
Wexford v Armagh - Armagh to win easily
Sligo v Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Louth v Clare - Clare looking good

DIV FOUR

Carlow v London - Carlow
Wicklow v Leitrim - Draw
Longford v Antrim - Longford
Offaly v Waterford - Waterford to continue a very strong start to the season

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 02/02/2015 17:36:18    1689339

Dublin v Donegal - Dublin need to win this big time, Donegal don't.......Dublin
Monaghan v Cork - Monaghan in Clones are tough very tough......Monaghan
Mayo v Tyrone - No contest.........Mayo
Derry v Kerry - Derry way too dependant on one player.......Kerry

Laois v Cavan - Laois
Down v Roscommon - Down
Meath v Kildare - Kildare
Westmeath v Galway - Galway

Tipperary v Limerick - Tipperary
Wexford v Armagh - Armagh
Sligo v Fermanagh - Fermanagh
Louth v Clare - Clare

Carlow v London - Carlow
Wicklow v Leitrim - Wicklow
Longford v Antrim - Longford
Offaly v Waterford - Offaly

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/02/2015 17:42:21    1689344

Muckrosshead
Clondalkins dig was aimed at us not donegal , saying mayo were robbed last year and football the way it's meant to be played but you see clondalkin in Kerry we are adaptable we can play and master any style of football which is why we are 37 times allireland champions and why the Dublin region only have 22 titles.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/02/2015 17:50:19    1689346

Muckrosshead
Clondalkins dig was aimed at us not donegal , saying mayo were robbed last year and football the way it's meant to be played but you see clondalkin in Kerry we are adaptable we can play and master any style of football which is why we are 37 times allireland champions and why the Dublin region only have 22 titles.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/02/2015 17:52:03    1689348

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clondalkindub
County: Dublin
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great to see a Mayo win today playing football the way it's suppose to be played. I'd actually love to see Mayo win Sam this year great team that were robbed last year.

It didn't take long for the old chestnut about "playing football the way it's supposed to be played" to get an airing.

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Amazing that you almost seem to have taken Clondalkin's observation personally....and he didn't even mention Donegal or blanket defences. Can people not even express their views on what they believe real football to be these days without some paranoid Donegal fan getting on their back?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 02/02/2015 17:57:42    1689351

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Lots of people on here were blaming Dublin's demise last year to the fact that they steamrolled everyone last year and the subs were arriving on and kicking handy scores against beaten teams. The story was that they weren't used to having to come on and win a game.

Yesterday he created a situation where the subs came on and the failed to close out the game. A lesson learned for those players. Dublin will qualify for the semi finals if they want to. A very gutsy move by Gavin to create a game situation to test the young players out. He has obviously learned form last year. Some Dublin poster clearly haven't. Doesn't say much for Cork though.


What dublin do from the line is totally out of cork's control. All they can do is turn up and play. And I believe they won, so I am not sure why this does not say much for cork.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3853 - 02/02/2015 17:59:04    1689353

To all counties who aspire to win the all ierland this year.

Defensive tactics are important. And if it encroaches on perceived notions on how the game should be played, then you have a decision to make about what sort of a year you are going to have.

I believe that the most direct football i saw last year was by Mayo. It is difficult to say how direct or otherwise Dublin are, as they didnt beat much on their way to the semis. Kerry can be direct, as they can be equally defensive. We beat Dublin with some defensive football, but I wouldnt have classed our performance that day as being dull or lacking in 'football' aesthetic, whatever that may be.

The real test will come when Kerry, dublin or mayo play each other this year. If any of these top 3 teams play defensive football in order to win at the expense of open football, then forever hold your peace, as Donegal will not be on the pitch on those days!!

Back to the issue of the thread, I think that the next day out we will have it tough v dublin. I will be there, and am looking forward to another day in croker.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3853 - 02/02/2015 18:32:20    1689367

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County: Dublin
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Amazing that you almost seem to have taken Clondalkin's observation personally....and he didn't even mention Donegal or blanket defences. Can people not even express their views on what they believe real football to be these days without some paranoid Donegal fan getting on their back?

Paranoid Joxer, moi???

I know well he didn't mention Donegal or blanket defences, it's just one of those lazy comments that gets thrown out there on a regular basis & it just gets to me a bit.

As for taking Clondalkin personally, you should know better than that. Clondalkin & myself have had many's a joust on here & I have nothing but respect for him. Granted he sees the world through a huge pair of blue tinted glasses, but he wears his colours on his sleeve, as do I, & I look forward to many's a scrap with him.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/02/2015 18:45:23    1689371

Fair enough Muck. You're starting early though!

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 02/02/2015 18:55:57    1689373

tirawleybaron


dublins demise?
we lost one match against a team who played better on the day
end of it happens.
the subs last year started on sunday namely costello, o gara and rock
and they contributed 11 points between them so you make no sense
the guys that came on off the bench yesterday were having their first game in a dublin jersey some of them.
learned what from last year
as we had a 17 point turn around against cork in the semi final in league
we hammered,derry in final
then went on to beat laois by 11 points, wexford by 16 points and meath by 16 points
then monaghan in the quarter final by 17 points
hardly a bad year loosing one big game
not much need to change in my view

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/02/2015 18:57:24    1689375