GreenandRed
County: Mayo
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O'Byrne Cup Final was on Radio 1.

Mediaman, what does an article about soccer violence in The Sunday Independent have to do with GAA coverage on RTE? .

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I was in Newbridge myself but the Da was listening on Radio 1 and he said that they missed the first few mins of the match as they wanted to discuss Leinster Wasps and then the FA Cup. Meanwhile the match was playing on in Kildare. Could you imagine the uproar if Leinster were playing a match and the start of the game was missed while the studio discussed the previous nights GAA league match between Offaly and Armagh? It simply wouldn't happen. No doubt where the priorities lie in D4.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 25/01/2015 20:36:36    1686331

Thomond Park was only half full as their 'loyal supporters' knew what the media obviously didn't - that Sale had no interest whatsoever in the game as they are back to Aviva mode and probably wouldn't have sent a team at all if they could have gotten away with it! And yet RTE make out that Munster beating them meant diddley squat.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/01/2015 20:40:48    1686334

I don't think Rugby is a dangerous rival. Time was when it was- back about 10 years ago. With the current debate on concussion in Rugby could have serious implications for it as a sport for schoolboys. Also American football seems to have overtaken it now. Anyway lets concentrate on GAA matters- forget about other sports. Likewise lets look at lack of Gaeilge in The GAA for example

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2625 - 25/01/2015 20:48:17    1686338

Joxer, I never said they had live uninterrupted coverage, it was interrupted plenty of times. Was good commentary with Dessie Dolan. Fair play to the Dubs, ye'll get another summer out of it.

Sceptical, explain how a stadium with it's capacity reduced to 6, 200 can hold 10, 000?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8177 - 25/01/2015 21:08:57    1686348

Wasn't a full house anyway.
Plenty of room behind far end goal if say around 8 thousand at it, most of which were dubs to be honest I'd say 5 thousand to 3 thousand

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/01/2015 21:47:24    1686368

I watched the RTE news tonight to see the highlights of the O'Byrne Cup Final - all ticket 10,000 crowd, but wait our national broadcaster didn't show any of it.......we had every other sport, every goal in the FA cup and the half empty Thomand Park....

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 25/01/2015 21:52:05    1686371

Why do lads expect highlights of the O Byrne cup on RTE? They don't show pre season friendlies for Munster/Leinster so why would they do it for the GAA? You can dress up yesterday's match all you want but all it was was a glorified challenge.

And someone a few posts back said he can't wait til SKY takes complete control. All last Summer SKY gave GAA coverage about 30 seconds at 57 minutes past the hour on sky sports news. 30 seconds smack bang in the middle of the championship. With the premier league in full swing until May, never mind show highlights they wouldn't even give GAA a mention until that is over. If that's what people want then so be it but they have a strange idea of promotion of our games if that's the case. All this talk that Sky have brought our games to a wider audience would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassing. The viewing figures for some of the exclusive games on sky were pathetic. 14,000 was the figure for one of the games and out of that how many were actually English??

Come one lads, get the chip off the shoulder and get out to your local club. You promote the games and let RTE/Sky etc do what they want.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 26/01/2015 08:12:51    1686376

it's easy for RTe to show highlights of english soccer and rugby and any other sport as thet are taking the pictures from the bbc or sky or bt sport etc. they don't want the expense of sending cameras and crews to a game that noone else is broadcasting.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 26/01/2015 13:12:15    1686485

25/01/2015 20:25:51
valley84
There are only 56 adult rugby clubs in the country

There are more basketball, handball, hockey, cricket clubs

The level of coverage does not reflect the reach of the sportHow do you think there is only 56 adult rugby clubs in the country? Where are you pulling 56 from?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/01/2015 13:36:47    1686504

mike03
County: Limerick
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Why do lads expect highlights of the O Byrne cup on RTE? They don't show pre season friendlies for Munster/Leinster so why would they do it for the GAA? You can dress up yesterday's match all you want but all it was was a glorified challenge.

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Yes but isn't that what the PRO12 is in reality? Whatever the Heineken Cup equivalent is called these days is the only club competition that matters. Interestingly enough there were more people in Newbridge yesterday than have attended the vast majority of the PRO12 matches to date, all games that is.

Look at Round 13 here...

http://www.pro12rugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures_list.php

..yet just watch RTEngland pay homage to it by dedicating this amount of schedule time to it.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2013/0828/470828-rte-rugby-on-tv/

The mind boggles.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 26/01/2015 14:30:53    1686533

I've as much disdain as anyone for the oul rugby but even I know that there's more than 56 adult rugby clubs in Ireland.

CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 26/01/2015 14:34:01    1686536

26/01/2015 13:12:15
s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 3259

1686485
it's easy for RTe to show highlights of english soccer and rugby and any other sport as thet are taking the pictures from the bbc or sky or bt sport etc. they don't want the expense of sending cameras and crews to a game that noone else is broadcasting.

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Not sure that's the reason. Where there's a will there's a way. They easily manage to show highlights of league of Ireland matches on MNS every week during the season, usually covering 10 games + per week. Outside broadcasting is a lot cheaper these days. We're not talking about the Olympics here! The biggest cost is paying the D4 big shots their inflated wages at the end of the week. When you take away the lavish sums being dished out to rugby and soccer analysts I guess there wouldn't be much left for a couple of retired GAA amateur footballer analysts and a make shift presenter to show 70 mins of our national sport.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 26/01/2015 14:39:38    1686542

56 seems very few.

How many rugby clubs are there in Ireland?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 26/01/2015 15:02:43    1686550

24/01/2015 09:30:00 hill16no1man
seems tony ward shares the opinion
"Call me a cynic but what I see piling through the turnstiles in good times I suspect will not be replicated going forward. Already Munster folk - the so-called 'brave and faithful' or '16th man' - have been voting with their feet by way of their absence from what they perceive as run-of-the-mill Guinness Pro 12 fixtures.
They may well be the holders of season tickets and therefore feel themselves to be doing their bit when fuelling Munster rugby's spectator attendance returns, sadly they are anything but. Loyal support is unconditional and is even more relevant in bad times than good.
Provincial or club rugby - I still find it really hard to get my head around that term in a professional context - is what Railway Cup football and hurling once was. It is however built on a very fickle base. Take away success and I have my doubts this king has any clothes. It is for that reason more than any I am hugely concerned for Munster rugby going forward." Provincial rugby in its current form is less than 20 years old so of course its taking time to adjust. Rugby is growing and growing as a participation sport and that will show in time at professional level

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/01/2015 15:42:08    1686571

25/01/2015 20:25:51 valley84
There are only 56 adult rugby clubs in the country

There are more basketball, handball, hockey, cricket clubs

The level of coverage does not reflect the reach of the sport Where do you get a figure of 56 from?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/01/2015 15:50:11    1686577

25/01/2015 20:48:17
galwayford
I don't think Rugby is a dangerous rival. Time was when it was- back about 10 years ago. With the current debate on concussion in Rugby could have serious implications for it as a sport for schoolboys. Also American football seems to have overtaken it now. Anyway lets concentrate on GAA matters- forget about other sports. Likewise lets look at lack of Gaeilge in The GAA for example Concussion is being taken seriously. Any suspected concussion at amateur level and player goes off and cannot return until medically cleared
Where has American football taken over from Rugby?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/01/2015 15:53:53    1686581

well if there isnt 56 then how many is there?...i know there isnt that many as typically only 1 in the big town of each county

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 26/01/2015 16:25:48    1686592

mike03

they show pro12 highlights and they are micky mouse affairs that your thomond season holders dont even bother attending

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/01/2015 16:36:54    1686606

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 3259

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it's easy for RTe to show highlights of english soccer and rugby and any other sport as thet are taking the pictures from the bbc or sky or bt sport etc. they don't want the expense of sending cameras and crews to a game that noone else is broadcasting.

its radio telifis eireann
not radio telifis brittania maybe somebody should tell them that then
if we want the british sports highlights
wont we go onto a birtish channell to see them
after all we all pay a licence fee to the irish government
so its hardly too much to ask to see irish sport on the irish sports news

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/01/2015 16:38:57    1686608

There'll be little mention of GAA in February or March with their 6 Nations coverage. Is it D4 bias, maybe but it's as much a financial move as not having cameras at games and getting cheaper feed from BBC and Sky.They'll have 2 men in a field analaysis of the National Leagues but rugby is where it's at on RTE for the next two months because they have a sponsor for 6 Nations coverage and they have advertising revenue built around this. As for 56 adult clubs, I think it's not far off the mark, can't be many more established adult clubs in The Republic. But there are loads who have an interest in rugby who have never played the game or sat foot in any club. In 2009 there was a bandwagon effect, but even so I saw a lot more females wearing jersies. With some recent success of the womens team there's another surge in interest amongst the female population. Interest amongst the male poulation has also increased year on year and 's far from D4 that it's popularity spread. To see proof of that look at LIDL selling rugby gear, not a company who like to miss a trick. They rarely sell what won't be bought. LIDL is hardly the convenience store of the the D4 set. I'm not a fan of the D4 people myself. Sure when I moved to Dublin in '99 I was shocked and pleasantly surprised to find that no Jackens had horns sticking out of their heads and very few had cloven hooves as were told in our childhood back in Mullah-land! But the Dort accent still wrecks my head. I once advised a lady in Coppers with a D4 accent to display her Union Jack as she was oblivious to the presence of Ciaran McManus who had proudly represented Ireland in Croke Park the same day.The IRFU have organised coaching in primary schools in non-traditional rugby areas, Maybe tehy're looking to get a foothold into GAA territory. If they don't clearly sort out their concussion issues no parent will let their child play rugby, but they're a savvy bunch and I think they'll sort it out. Kids are kids and they'll want to try every sport and maybe decide on one or two later in their teens. Generally the rugby season is September to April. GAA March to October. A lot of people play both. Some play both and other sports.

But most of RTEs target audience play no organised sports. TV watchers with money in their pockets ready to give some of it to those who advertise on TV, Radio, Newspapers and Internet. Right now they're telling you rugby is cool, a phrase I hate. For Cheltenham horses are cool,in May the Premier League is cool, McGregor and MMA will be cool,for Wimbledon strawberries and cream are cool , the GAA will be cool and back to cool rugby for the World Cup.

As for GAA v Rugby, I think it's a waste of time and energy trying to pit one against another when there are plenty who can play both, mostly happening at different times of the year and even more who can support both codes but almost none of them have an intention of being in Dublin 4 any time soon.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8177 - 26/01/2015 16:42:10    1686609