County man, the games are obviously not meaningless judging by the crowds. There was 8/9,000 at Navan and crowds close enough to that in Castlebar and at Donegal/Fermanagh and Cavan/Monaghan. Newbridge will be packed next Sunday and McKenna Cup final will have close to 10,000.

I don't think anyway that this should be a contest between domestic sports. The European rugby games are important and deserve coverage. I would be far more annoyed over fact that EPL seems to trump any Irish sport at all times of the year. I even heard a radio sports reporter yesterday morning mention that he had been in Navan to report on the Dublin/Meath game but only to explain that he was in the car when Manchester City were playing Arsenal and which he went on to talk about for five minutes! Not a mention of the game he had been at!!!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 20/01/2015 12:11:00    1684734

This is the 1000th post on this thread. Biggest ever?

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 20/01/2015 12:39:33    1684747

20/01/2015 11:14:17
hill16no1man
countyman there is no trophy at stake at the end of rugby friendly matches in november
there is a trophy at stake in these competitions and places on the panel for the league
so i dont think any player lining out can say it means nothing as it may be their big chance to get into the team or panel
for 2015 hill there is actually trophies at stake. When Ireland play Australia they play for the Lansdowne Cup. when they play argentina its for the admiral brown cup. these games in November are like those in cricket they are test matches and very important to rugby players, coaches, supporters. their is places at stake for the 6nations and world cup

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/01/2015 17:13:58    1684879

The reason this thread is so long is because it highlights one of the worst aspects of Irish life - cronyism. In this case it's the special treatment given to the sports most favored by the broadcasters themselves rather the sports most popular with the public. Last Sunday night's news was a perfect example. Eight sports covered but only, two football and hurling had no accompanying pictures. On Sunday in Ireland more people paid in to see football/hurling matches than paid in to see the other 6 sports combined. This thread records inequalities of this kind and should continue to do so no matter what RTE's defenders say. 1,000 and still going strong.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 20/01/2015 17:40:21    1684893

Mediaman, why didn't you reply to my post on the previous post asking if anyone had actually complained to RTE ir to ths Broadcasting Authority and if so what kind of reply you received?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8176 - 20/01/2015 19:06:45    1684936

Mediaman, why didn't you reply to my post on the previous post asking if anyone had actually complained to RTE ir to ths Broadcasting Authority and if so what kind of reply you received?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8176 - 20/01/2015 19:11:01    1684938

Connolly no i think that still goes to the seannie Johnson thread.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/01/2015 19:29:06    1684946

i agree with royaldunne

kildalkey4 (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 20/01/2015 20:28:17    1684978

i complained greenandred and received no reply sadly

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 20/01/2015 20:46:12    1684993

They are not meaningless to the players, they do mean a lot to them, but they are just pre-season games that ultimately mean nothing in the GAA season. Most GAA fans would only have a passing interest in these games and would only look out for their county results. Also if their county lost they wouldn't be too bothered.

Also a trophy in itself doesn't make it meaningful. There was the Tommy Murphy cup a few years back and no county cared about that. There was 7,000 at the Dublin Meath match which was impressive but there was only 900 at the Kildare game in the other semi-final.

Like I said before, not having a go, just making the point that they there is no country wide interest in any one particular game in these competitions.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1156 - 20/01/2015 21:12:14    1685004

I agree with kildalkey,only because he agrees with someone else.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 20/01/2015 21:53:08    1685023

20/01/2015 17:40:21 mediaman
The reason this thread is so long is because it highlights one of the worst aspects of Irish life - cronyism. In this case it's the special treatment given to the sports most favored by the broadcasters themselves rather the sports most popular with the public. Last Sunday night's news was a perfect example. Eight sports covered but only, two football and hurling had no accompanying pictures. On Sunday in Ireland more people paid in to see football/hurling matches than paid in to see the other 6 sports combined. This thread records inequalities of this kind and should continue to do so no matter what RTE's defenders say. 1,000 and still going strong. And what other than posting here are you doing about it. Rugby doesn't get special treatment, in spite of whatever you and others say. The national broadcaster doesn't show any live professional provincial rugby. Shows the internationals and world cup. TG4 shows some pro12 games, BBC NI shows some pro12 and the rest of games are live on subscription channels.
Why if you are so critical of RTE, and people like me who have defended them, don't you do something about RTE other than post here. Create a free wordpress blog/website to promote the naughtiness of RTE for not showing enough of the sports you want them to show

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/01/2015 21:58:03    1685028

countyman

but you could say the same about the rugby friendlys in november
after the six nations will anybody really care how ireland did against south africa in a friendly?
it pales into signifigance with the six nations or world cup.
also your other point about one game attracting large numbers and the other small
well you could also compare that with the rugby friendlys too
as ireland v new zealand or south africa will pull large numbers
but ireland v fiji or canada wont and will be played outside the aviva to cater for small numbers

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/01/2015 09:04:44    1685039

Hill16man.. There is no such thing as a friendly in Rugby. They are all test matches. And very importand mautches at that. Dont be making a fool of yourself saying that Ireland v South Africa was "a friendly".

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 21/01/2015 10:43:53    1685067

Actually there are "friendlies" in international rugby that don't have "test" status - Ireland played 2 of them in the summer before the last RWC. Also, I don't imagine that Barbarians games are tests either...?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/01/2015 11:38:04    1685088

I obviously missed the whole Stephanie Roche coverage part of this thread. Once again, Waterford Whispers are "on the ball":

link

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/01/2015 12:01:27    1685096

21/01/2015 09:04:44 hill16no1man
countyman but you could say the same about the rugby friendlys in November after the six nations will anybody really care how ireland did against south africa in a friendly? it pales into signifigance with the six nations or world cup. also your other point about one game attracting large numbers and the other small well you could also compare that with the rugby friendlys too as ireland v new zealand or south africa will pull large numbers but ireland v fiji or canada wont and will be played outside the aviva to cater for small numbers The only people who try totally dismiss these games are non rugby supporters. They are test matches and after the 6 nations people will especially care about how Ireland did against South Africa as the south Africans were higher ranked than sides in 6 nations and it said a lot about how we were going along for the world cup
Ireland Fiji could have been played in the Aviva but Ireland team represent the whole island so some games are moved
21/01/2015 11:38:04 keeper7
Actually there are "friendlies" in international rugby that don't have "test" status - Ireland played 2 of them in the summer before the last RWC. Also, I don't imagine that Barbarians games are tests either...? correct and correct

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/01/2015 13:41:54    1685137

Are there people on here seriously arguing that rugby tests are not friendlies, but that the provincial competitions currently ongoing are the equivalent to friendlies?

I mean, seriously? People seem to be arguing that rugby test internationals are important for selection of teams/squads for 6 Nations / RWC, while at the same time completely ignoring the exact same value in the ongoing provincial championships.

Some of you's need to take a serious look at yourselves.

jason (Mayo) - Posts: 139 - 21/01/2015 16:39:04    1685221

Why lump complaints about RTE and Stephanie Roches strike together. It makes no sense

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 21/01/2015 19:09:54    1685276

21/01/2015 16:39:04 jason
Are there people on here seriously arguing that rugby tests are not friendlies, but that the provincial competitions currently ongoing are the equivalent to friendlies?

I mean, seriously? People seem to be arguing that rugby test internationals are important for selection of teams/squads for 6 Nations / RWC, while at the same time completely ignoring the exact same value in the ongoing provincial championships.

Some of you's need to take a serious look at yourselves. The November and summer tests played by international rugby sides are very different to the January competitions played by inter county hurling and gaelic football sides. When the top sides face off in November/June Ireland/England/New Zealand etc field as strong a side as possible. Do counties do the same in Gaelic or Hurling? The November and summer tests are the only games Irelands rugby side play in the year outside of the 6 nations and every 4 years the world cup. For counties in hurling/gaelic these games are behind the all Ireland/provincial championships as well as the ;league. to say they are the same is ridiculous

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/01/2015 19:48:24    1685293