so she lost the vote then?..what are people complaining about?...fair play to her and wish her well but you would swear it was some sort of robbery the way some people go on...everybody has their own personal tastes..i personally feel great goals mean a lot more if they are scored at the top level then those lee trundle used to score in league one or wherever

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 13/01/2015 18:05:12    1682923

I agree with fabio on this particular topic. I dont see how any goal from the LOI could be included in a list like this.
Her goal was technically brilliant, but what about a young fella in the school yard who dribbles around ten guys and scores. That would never be nominated. Of course the quality of the opposition matters.
Everyones saying they feel sorry for her, but I dont. I think she should consider herself lucky to have even been nominated to be honest. what about Lamelas goal earlier this season in the Europa league, or bales goal against Barca in the copa del ray final.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 13/01/2015 19:19:25    1682943

Stupid comment fabio.I can only speak for myself,but if Miss Roche happened to be the back arse of Siberia,i would still think she scored the best goal.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 13/01/2015 19:21:24    1682944

What some posters seem to be missing is the actual difficulty in doing what Roche did.In fact,in all my years watching football from all over the World,i have never seen a player even attempt such an outlandish piece of skill.To control the ball on one foot,flick it over her head with the other,and finish it like an exocet missile into the top corner,was truly astonishing.She has done something that no other player has ever done.At least ive never seen it done.And ive watched a lot of football.What Bale did has been done thousands of times.Same with Rodriguez,Van Persie,Cahill,Lamella etc al.There in lies the difference.Stephanie Roche has pioneered her own piece of football mastery.Pure class.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 13/01/2015 19:31:59    1682951

You answered your own question, technically her goal was brilliant . That has been recognised by those who play/played the game at the highest level. That is why she was nominated and she deserved to be nominated . I don't feel sorry for her . She has had a fabulous experience that can only have enriched her life. The vote decided in Ridriguez' favour . C'est la vie .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6182 - 13/01/2015 19:39:42    1682953

whats stupid about it cud?...spare me..if she wasnt irish you simply wouldnt care to even discuss it and that goes for most people...lamelas goal was superb...yes i have witnessed some incredible goals in games iv played in..the level i played at was low and that must be considered before we start handing out awards

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 13/01/2015 19:43:19    1682956

13/01/2015 19:19:25 joncarter
I agree with fabio on this particular topic. I dont see how any goal from the LOI could be included in a list like this.
Her goal was technically brilliant, but what about a young fella in the school yard who dribbles around ten guys and scores. That would never be nominated. Of course the quality of the opposition matters.
Everyones saying they feel sorry for her, but I dont. I think she should consider herself lucky to have even been nominated to be honest. what about Lamelas goal earlier this season in the Europa league, or bales goal against Barca in the copa del ray final. Its a goal of the year award not a goal in the biggest competition award. If a goal from the LOI was deemed good enough and voted enough then of course
Your analogy about a school yard is ridiculous. Its proper matches and proper goals that count. The quality of the opposition doesn't totally matter. She was lucky to have been nominated as it was only sheer luck that her coach or somebody at game videoed the game

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 13/01/2015 19:46:10    1682958

Yes her goal was technically brilliant, but the top three in the world? No chance. I guarantee you that last year there were countless other goals scored in all the thousands of backwater leagues all over the world that would have involved things like bicycle kicks, or dribbling around loads of players, or back heels, or volleys etc. and they werent nominated.
As I said, I dont see how any goal from the League of Ireland could be nominated for this world famous award.
The goal looks goon no question, but did it deserve to pip Goetches goal that won his country the World cup? Not in my opinion anyway.
People should now start handing in their home videos of their kids scoring fantastic goals against their mates down at the local park. You never know how far it will go.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 13/01/2015 20:02:10    1682962

13/01/2015 20:02:10
joncarter
Yes her goal was technically brilliant, but the top three in the world? No chance. I guarantee you that last year there were countless other goals scored in all the thousands of backwater leagues all over the world that would have involved things like bicycle kicks, or dribbling around loads of players, or back heels, or volleys etc. and they werent nominated.
As I said, I dont see how any goal from the League of Ireland could be nominated for this world famous award.
The goal looks goon no question, but did it deserve to pip Goetches goal that won his country the World cup? Not in my opinion anyway.
People should now start handing in their home videos of their kids scoring fantastic goals against their mates down at the local park. You never know how far it will go. It was so good technically that was why it was nominated. Most of the rest of your post is just hyperbolic nonsense. It is best goal of the year the competition the goal was scored in doesn't matter. Why all the knockin and dismissal of the league of Ireland. You are taking the occasion of a goal scored in a bigger event to mean its a better goal. that's not what the competition is about

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 13/01/2015 20:16:01    1682970

I also dont like the way it has become so taboo to suggest that there was tokenism involved.
I think that it is entirely possible that tokenism played its part in her nomination.
I certainly wouldnt rule it out anyway.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 13/01/2015 20:21:16    1682972

would also argue that she being a woman had a huge role in the campaign to get her to win..big publicity and positive pc publicity for fifa which is an organisation in bad need of it

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 13/01/2015 20:22:12    1682973

Ormo, on the one hand you re saying the occasion doesnt matter, then just above that in another post you say its about "proper goals and proper games". Hypocrite.
If the ocassion doesnt matter why not include recreational games, or games between pub teams?
And where is the 'hyperbolic non sense'? Are you denying that there are countless backwater league all over the world? Are you denying that skillfull goals are scored in them leagues?
Goetsches goal was beautiful, and it won his country the world cup, and it was scored against world class defenders (unlike Roches, where the defending was shocking). Cant get much better than that.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 13/01/2015 20:41:53    1682983

This goal award reminds me of every year when I here fhm announce the top 100 sexiest women.
Every single one of them are famous and 90% of them come from USA or Britain. How on earth can they get away with these ridiculous titles basically telling us that you have to be famous to be considered good looking

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/01/2015 17:39:42    1683248

13/01/2015 20:41:53
joncarter
Ormo, on the one hand you re saying the occasion doesnt matter, then just above that in another post you say its about "proper goals and proper games". Hypocrite.
If the ocassion doesnt matter why not include recreational games, or games between pub teams?
And where is the 'hyperbolic non sense'? Are you denying that there are countless backwater league all over the world? Are you denying that skillfull goals are scored in them leagues?
Goetsches goal was beautiful, and it won his country the world cup, and it was scored against world class defenders (unlike Roches, where the defending was shocking). Cant get much better than that. Nothing hypocritical about what I had posted jocart
Recreational games and pub league games compared to what she was playing in. Hahahaha!!!!
The standard of defending isn't a defence that can be used to knock Roche's goal. She had her back to a defender who was relatively close to her and her 2 touches than over the head of defender and strike straight into the net. That Goetsches goal won the world cup doesn't make it a better goal technically than Roche's
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hill16no1man
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1683248 This goal award reminds me of every year when I here fhm announce the top 100 sexiest women.
Every single one of them are famous and 90% of them come from USA or Britain. How on earth can they get away with these ridiculous titles basically telling us that you have to be famous to be considered good looking

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/01/2015 18:49:31    1683285

Surely the Pukas award is for the best goal, not the most important goal if that was the case then Gotze winning goal in the wc final would have won the award. Ormond if you just admitted you think that rugby is the only important sport at the start you would have saved yourself a lot of time. Jon carter it is wrong to claim that managers do not care about the league and it was interesting to see a number of regular championship players playing for various counties in the Fbd, McKenna etc. The reason Connacht players celebrated there win over Munster was because it was only there secound win in nearly 30 years, a bit like Wicklow beating Dublin in the O'Bryne cup

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 14/01/2015 19:31:37    1683298

well the opposition you play against has a huge bearing on the ability to score such a goal....both the keeper and defenders would be way way higher than hers so i dont see your comparison at all..its nothing to do with being famous..its about the standard of competition...i would strongly argue there would be nowhere near the same publicity if this was a man from the league of ireland

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 14/01/2015 19:40:15    1683303

of course ros....it would be huge for a small county to beat a team like kerry or the dubs in the league or anything like that....of course its easy to bring up big things in rugby and totally ignore the same things in gaa...

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 14/01/2015 19:53:42    1683312

The opposition you are against has to have something to do with it.
otherwise you are suggesting that a player from the womens league of Ireland is capable of greater things than the best that Real Madrid, Barca , Chelsea and all the other top clubs in the world have to offer.
In my opinion that notion is wrong, even if it is politically correct.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 14/01/2015 20:29:10    1683332

I posted this on the soccer pages. Last night on SKY NEWS they were previewing the next day's papers and they were talking about Stephanie's goal. The political editor of the Sun, a plummy voiced so and so, said the goal was scored 'for some bogtrotting side in Ireland'. I must admit that did make me angry and I fired off an e-mail to SKY about his remarks. I am still waiting on a reply.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 14/01/2015 21:38:02    1683367

Some people just can't see that they are really sexist end off. Upsets them its a girl, its like the Cork Ladies football etc etc If you don't want them in the competitions with men - then exclude them like they have been for centuries. She didn't ask to be nominated, its irrelevant the quality of competition, the opposition, the fact some feel its tokenism, doesn't matter because these are excuses to exclude.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 15/01/2015 09:38:16    1683396