I reckon it would be better to compare these games to pre season friendlies than compare them to the cups in England.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 10/01/2015 17:24:45    1682050

seems evident supporters feel differently...8,000 attendance..quite impressive and should be reported on

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/01/2015 17:42:42    1682058

depends what soccer player we are talking about...league medals would mean plenty to smaller counties who have much less chance of ever winning an all ireland similar to players from smaller clubs like wigan holding the fa cup in great significance as they have no hope of winning the champions league or the league...there is 0 excuse for the way in which the most popular sport in this country is treated by the national broadcaster...the games should receive proper coverage and not only give coverage for negative incidents

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/01/2015 17:44:49    1682059

09/01/2015 16:45:17 fabio8
how did you think he had?..it has been covered practically everywhere that he lost the final..it is quite an embaressing mistake made by rte
I don't follow darts. Don't care for it and simply assumed he won

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2015 19:00:41    1682074

09/01/2015 20:56:45 mediaman
Friday. 9pm. The RTE Sport website is carrying almost 2,000 words over 4 Pro 12 previews and has live updates of scores in the Connacht game. There are 33 games across 8 different competitions in hurling and football this weekend. Not a word. Nothing wrong with that much coverage of key league games in the rugby and strange that nothing was up yesterday but there was several match reports/round up of games on the site today
09/01/2015 21:22:15 hill16no1man
Did they even report on Bryan Cullen retiring?
I watched TV3 news and they left it till last item after about 5 mins on rugby teams for Micky mouse games this weekend.
Could you imagine if a Heineken cup winning captain retired it would be main news these days and what excuse do tv3 have as they show neither Gaa or rugby.Whats Mickey mouse about the pro12?
They didn't even mention Gaa matches this weekend

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2015 19:14:58    1682076

simple research by the news team such as picking up a newspaper or watching a different channel or looking it up on the internet would have easily got the information required...not that difficult

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 10/01/2015 19:16:02    1682078

10/01/2015 15:50:58 joncarter
The Rte could do more to reprt Gaa games lads, but when players and managers are openly treating these spring competitions with contempt I dont see why the media should spend too much time reporting on them.
Didnt Jim McGuinness once say he was glad that his team got relegated to div 2 of the league?
Connacht beat Munster in a Pro 12 game recently and they celebrated like they won the world cup. If galway won the league in hurling the players and manager etc., would be at pains to say things like, "sure itll mean nothing come Summertime" and "its only the league like".
I guarantee you that rugby will continue to beat the GAA in the battle for media attention so long as our counties only focus on the three or four games they play during the Summer. Fair points. Excellent post
10/01/2015 15:57:04 fabio8
still 0 excuse for the non existent coverage give Is there? Did you read joncarter's post? Do you agree or disagree with his post?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2015 19:16:58    1682079

Ormond
It has second string lineups nearly every weekend hardly held in high esteem by the competing managers when they rest their best players.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/01/2015 21:49:59    1682133

10/01/2015 21:49:59 hill16no1man
Ormond It has second string lineups nearly every weekend hardly held in high esteem by the competing managers when they rest their best players. Nearly every weekend? No it doesn't.
Guesswork from you.
The coaches pick the best teams available and rotate their squads. Rugby is a high attrition game the top players have 22 regular league games, minimum of 6 group games in Europe and between 10-12 internationals so they will obviously not play 30+ games so they don't play some league games
The head coaches do hold the league in high esteem and the players certainly do

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2015 21:59:41    1682139

A look at the lineups each week would certainly back up what you are saying hill. I think Paul O'Connell has played in 5 of Munsters 13 Pro12 games this season, but he plays in every European game. I know Munster fans were very annoyed that their game against Leinster over Christmas was effectively a reserve fixture due to all the best players having been at a 2 day training camp. Look at some rugby forums on the internet and you will see many Munster fans say this was the last straw and that they are unlikely to renew their season ticket next year as the Pro12 has become so irrelevant. Like all businesses though, the key thing is to stay generating money so you will always have people putting spin on things to talk it up - GAA people openly acknowledge that the early season competitions are secondary to the championship but that does not mean the national station should ignore them like they do.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/01/2015 11:20:32    1682154

Ormond get your head out of the sand, everything isnt a slight on Rugby .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 11/01/2015 11:37:03    1682157

ormond

yes so they priortise their players for the european cup
in the process putting out weakened selctions aka second string teams
you are agreeing with me while trying to argue about it.
you make out as if rugby is the most tiring sport going
you expand a lot more enrgy in a gaelic football match believe me than a rugby game
and the gaelic football players have to get up and go to work or college on top of it
and they still can play week in week out.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/01/2015 19:02:24    1682291

no rte cameras at any grounds today

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 11/01/2015 20:43:08    1682362

Is this the longest running post ever - it goes around in circles!

Anyway back to going around in circles - ormondbannerman we disagreed on how Rugby had become a more dangerous sport over the years and I believed Rugby folk were burying their heads in the sand over it - I don't seem to be the only one http://www.bmj.com/content/350/bmj.h26
I was chatting to a mother recently who has a son in boarding school in the UK and he is part of the Sale academy. He is only 16 but yet he was told he needed to be taking protine supplements in order to gain weight. He was given the brand name and told to go buy them. The parents not having a clue about supplements sought out a professional in the area who recommended a different brand as the one he had been given had too many chemicals in it. As I said I have nothing against Rugby and I am actively involved in it however like my views on Hurling, I hate it when people put their head in the sand and act as if there are no issues that need to be addressed. You could argue that Hurling is in the exact same position as rugby, only played at the top level by a limited number of counties/countries but there does not seem to be the willingness to face up to that reality and really do something to address it. The advantage Hurling has is its not about money - just arrogance.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2026 - 12/01/2015 10:02:32    1682429

11/01/2015 11:20:32 Soma
A look at the lineups each week would certainly back up what you are saying hill. I think Paul O'Connell has played in 5 of Munsters 13 Pro12 games this season, but he plays in every European game. I know Munster fans were very annoyed that their game against Leinster over Christmas was effectively a reserve fixture due to all the best players having been at a 2 day training camp. Look at some rugby forums on the internet and you will see many Munster fans say this was the last straw and that they are unlikely to renew their season ticket next year as the Pro12 has become so irrelevant. Like all businesses though, the key thing is to stay generating money so you will always have people putting spin on things to talk it up - GAA people openly acknowledge that the early season competitions are secondary to the championship but that does not mean the national station should ignore them like they do. 1 of the pro12 games he missed was the same weekend as an international and yes some fans were annoyed at the teams who played the game between Munster and Leinster in Thomond but the season ticket sales wont dramatically fall due to that. Pro12 is actually more relevant than ever this season due to the changes in regard to European qualification and seeding

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/01/2015 13:14:39    1682518

11/01/2015 19:02:24 hill16no1man
ormond yes so they priortise their players for the european cup in the process putting out weakened selctions aka second string teams
you are agreeing with me while trying to argue about it. you make out as if rugby is the most tiring sport going you expand a lot more enrgy in a gaelic football match believe me than a rugby game and the gaelic football players have to get up and go to work or college on top of it
and they still can play week in week out.The top players play pro12 quite a lot and it doesn't affect the league too much. Where is your proof that gaelic players expend much more energy in a game than rugby players? What links do you have to scientific articles/journals where that is proved. Which gaelic players play week in week out for a large part of a season? League is 7 games and isn't every single week and club games are lower intensity by a margin to intercounty

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/01/2015 13:18:22    1682520

Ha Zinny,youve hit the nail on the head.I get a great laugh out of looking at posts on this thread.The RTE sports police v ormond.Gas craic altogether.A real time filler.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/01/2015 13:35:59    1682534

On an ecumenical note, I really cannot understand why RTE headlined with televised reports from English soccer on Saturday on a day when Leinster and Munster were playing pro 12 games. Perhaps someone ought to point to them out what the 'Éireann' in their title refers to!

And lest that be considered to be 'anti soccer' it is not. Indeed the most vociferous critics of RTE on their saturation coverage of English soccer are people involved with the LOI. And rightly so. I've been in many places and I cannot think of any other national media that consistently headline sports events outside of their own countries unless of course it happens to be a world event like Olympics, WC etc.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 12/01/2015 14:11:53    1682555

hurlingdub

goin all father ted on us haha
did you see the bumper yesterday in fairyhouse
had a horse going in it called tuzo at 20/1 each way easy to back
which was madness when you seen the breeding of the horse
finished 2nd in the end to a mullins odds on fav
mullins horse is now favourite for the champion bumper
but coming up the straight tuzo got boxed in by the 3rd and 4th and had to be pulled wide to go by both
still finished only 5 lengths off the winner
the winner had already won a point to point
while tuzo was first run ever
7/1 is biggest price this morning about the mullins horse for cheltneham
but tuzo aint even in the market
id be confident if he goes to cheltenham he would reverse the form
as he looks made for the cheltneham hill the way he stayed on to win 2nd spot after being boxed in.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/01/2015 18:03:34    1682629

I hadn't seen the result but heard them talking about the Mullins horse and another horse that was second favourite. Had the one you were on much form?

I had a few soccer and NFL bets at weekend which I came out right side of although only because I managed to get out before Dallas/Green Bay game took a turn!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 12/01/2015 18:23:36    1682635