Ormond who cares what position you put it in
Its the best competition for trying new players and integrating younger players into senior level
If it wasn't there you would only have mick mouse challenge games where you don't find out if these guys are able to stepup from club level to ccounty level.
You harp on about how important your November rugby friendlies are for getting your team right for the six nations but then try and demean the o Byrne cup for the same reason.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/01/2015 21:46:39    1686758

What I'm learning here is that Cork GAA is getting woefully under represented in the media!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 26/01/2015 21:53:05    1686760

anytime theyv played scotland for instance they normally make huge changes..made changes v us also..its rare you see all 3 of the big sides put out their very best sides..they normally try out a few players..how are the november internationals bigger?..o byrne cup is huge for some counties as only hope of silverware...why such strong attendances?...it is good for building a squad..are rugby teams the only 1s allowed to build squads?...they are on a quite an equal level the o byrne cup and the november international..can often be decent games well attended but dont matter much compared to the big competitions like the all ireland and 6 nations or world cup

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 26/01/2015 21:53:12    1686761

see ormond its clear you have no objectivity..all you do is big up every single thing in your own prefered sport and then belittle the equivlent in other sports..why do you use this site even?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 26/01/2015 21:54:45    1686764

26/01/2015 19:31:40 Joxer
That's even more embarrassing for RTE. If there are only 5000 at PRO12 games and this is the "equivalent of the National League" then why are RTE all over it when there are only 5,000 attending some games? National league attendances will be much higher, in average, than PRO12 games yet how many live games will the national broadcaster show? There will be 20K plus at some of the Croke Park games.
>Therefore, if it isn't important to the teams involved why is it important enough for RTE to cover it?
Because since when did teams wishes determine viewing figures? There was a full house in Newbridge yesterday. These are all (mostly) licence fee payers and audience members are they not? So is it not in RTE's interests to screen games that will draw an audience? Sorry but the logic is baffling. It's a clear strategic decision by RTE to slant their coverage towards the egg chasers. It's undeniable I'm afraid. 5000 may be at the game but all the other provincial fans are interested on how Connacht do as it affects them with it being the same competition. The pro12 is important to the teams. There is no strategic plan to favour rugby over bog ball(only using this phrase as you are using egg chasing) There is no slanting of coverage in favour of rugby over other sports.

26/01/2015 21:46:39 hill16no1man
Ormond who cares what position you put it in
Its the best competition for trying new players and integrating younger players into senior level
If it wasn't there you would only have mick mouse challenge games where you don't find out if these guys are able to stepup from club level to ccounty level.
You harp on about how important your November rugby friendlies are for getting your team right for the six nations but then try and demean the o Byrne cup for the same reason.I say the November internationals are very important as they(and summer internationals) are only games outside of 6nations/world cup for Ireland. These games being played in hurling/gaelic are well behind the league, provincial and all Ireland championship and counties will still play loads of friendlies as well
26/01/2015 21:54:45 fabio8
see ormond its clear you have no objectivity..all you do is big up every single thing in your own prefered sport and then belittle the equivlent in other sports..why do you use this site even? Now now don't get personal with me. Hahahaha on me having no objectivity. Look in the mirror mate. The November and summer internationals in rugby are not the equivalent of the o byrne cup. Now by saying that you are admitting you have no objectivity and are completely biased

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/01/2015 10:02:31    1686798

While were hovering around the issue, does anyone else notice the mount of rugby ads on Hoganstand.com ?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 27/01/2015 19:25:32    1687143

they are very similar ormond..you are only interested in bigging up your own sport..even resorting to bigging up the likes of nobodies like georgia...again you try and claim all provincial fans are interested and then claim gaa fans wouldnt be?....its laughable how pro rugby you are

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/01/2015 19:42:58    1687149

The new football/hurling season is now in its 4th week. So far RTE has failed to send even one camera to any of the early season competitions in spite of the clear interest shown by the one to two hundred thousand who have watched the games to date. While RTE is ignoring the country's most popular sports it's love affair with rugby union continues unabated. No cameras available for GAA but there was a camera team available today to watch the Irish rugby union team train. Not play just train. Plenty of shots of players standing around talking about a game that won't take place for nearly another two weeks. RTE's unbalanced coverage is now a national joke. And it's only likely to get worse in coming weeks. Promo after promo. Interview after interview. Injury update after injury update. Anything to avoid covering football or hurling.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 27/01/2015 20:12:32    1687166

It gets even worse. Just realised that RTE is providing live coverage of this Friday night's friendly match between the Wolfhounds and Saxons. No competitive GAA action in January but they can afford to show a rugby union friendly. Have they no shame?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 27/01/2015 20:54:11    1687193

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It gets even worse. Just realised that RTE is providing live coverage of this Friday night's friendly match between the Wolfhounds and Saxons. No competitive GAA action in January but they can afford to show a rugby union friendly. Have they no shame?

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Between the who and who? That's laughable. I suppose the RTE apologists will claim that this is the same as the Leinster Senior Football Championship. It just gets better. Seriously people don't believe that RTE are not biased towards the oval ball? If ever proof was needed well here it is. Any idea who will be covering it? I mean I just want to understand how much this D4 indulgence is going to cost the licence payer, not that this is ever a concern of our national broadcaster anyway. Where rugby is concerned there's always a few bob to send Ryle and the lads on a jollier around Europe or to some 5 star hotel in the capital, no expense spared of course.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 27/01/2015 21:08:36    1687203

now please tell me which is bigger the o byrne cup or the fortunes of the wolfhounds?..dont they also show the game with the irish club teams also?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/01/2015 21:30:48    1687212

27/01/2015 19:25:32 joncarter
While were hovering around the issue, does anyone else notice the mount of rugby ads on Hoganstand.com ? Generally ads are tailored to the search engine searches on computer in question... so are you that interested in rugby joncarter and is it only your work or home computer thst you use on here
27/01/2015 19:42:58 fabio8
they are very similar ormond..you are only interested in bigging up your own sport..even resorting to bigging up the likes of nobodies like georgia...again you try and claim all provincial fans are interested and then claim gaa fans wouldnt be?....its laughable how pro rugby you are Georgia aren't nobodies. If you knew anything about rugby you would know that. Champions of 2nd tier in Europe for past few years etc etc They are not very similar at all
27/01/2015 20:12:32 mediaman
The new football/hurling season is now in its 4th week. So far RTE has failed to send even one camera to any of the early season competitions in spite of the clear interest shown by the one to two hundred thousand who have watched the games to date. While RTE is ignoring the country's most popular sports it's love affair with rugby union continues unabated. No cameras available for GAA but there was a camera team available today to watch the Irish rugby union team train. Not play just train. Plenty of shots of players standing around talking about a game that won't take place for nearly another two weeks. RTE's unbalanced coverage is now a national joke. And it's only likely to get worse in coming weeks. Promo after promo. Interview after interview. Injury update after injury update. Anything to avoid covering football or hurling. Irish Rugby team at this time of year bigger than anything the GAA lads are playing. Why don't you contact RTE about their naughtiness.....
27/01/2015 20:54:11
mediaman
It gets even worse. Just realised that RTE is providing live coverage of this Friday night's friendly match between the Wolfhounds and Saxons. No competitive GAA action in January but they can afford to show a rugby union friendly. Have they no shame? IRFU look for this and others like it to be covered as part of 6 nations deal. Why don't GAA do more in looking for games to be covered on tv
27/01/2015 21:08:36 Joxer
Between the who and who? That's laughable. I suppose the RTE apologists will claim that this is the same as the Leinster Senior Football Championship. It just gets better. Seriously people don't believe that RTE are not biased towards the oval ball? If ever proof was needed well here it is. Any idea who will be covering it? I mean I just want to understand how much this D4 indulgence is going to cost the licence payer, not that this is ever a concern of our national broadcaster anyway. Where rugby is concerned there's always a few bob to send Ryle and the lads on a jollier around Europe or to some 5 star hotel in the capital, no expense spared of course. Not laughable at all. You know rugby is played in the main by people outside one area in Dublin. drop the pathetic stereotyping....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/01/2015 21:45:11    1687222

The Rugby man have taken control of RTE.
There will be less and less GAA coverage, wait and see.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 27/01/2015 21:55:15    1687227

27/01/2015 21:08:36 Joxer
Between the who and who? That's laughable. I suppose the RTE apologists will claim that this is the same as the Leinster Senior Football Championship. It just gets better. Seriously people don't believe that RTE are not biased towards the oval ball? If ever proof was needed well here it is. Any idea who will be covering it? I mean I just want to understand how much this D4 indulgence is going to cost the licence payer, not that this is ever a concern of our national broadcaster anyway. Where rugby is concerned there's always a few bob to send Ryle and the lads on a jollier around Europe or to some 5 star hotel in the capital, no expense spared of course. Not laughable at all. You know rugby is played in the main by people outside one area in Dublin. drop the pathetic stereotyping....

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Note sterotyping at all. Our national broadcaster is HQ'd in D4 is it not. Who said anything about rugby players?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 27/01/2015 21:57:19    1687228

ah i have heard it all georgia arent nobodies wait for it because they are champions of the second tier in rugby
hahahahaha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/01/2015 09:01:38    1687245

Proof if it was needed that the GAA Chiefs are talking through their backside about how great the SKY deal has been. And to think some people swallowed what they heard and roll out this 'I can't wait for SKY to take complete control" rubbish. Hurling and Gaelic football on sky has been and always will be up there with their coverage of Speedway and the likes.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/ucd-report-puts-a-cloud-over-sky-deal-309350.html

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 28/01/2015 11:34:03    1687306

28/01/2015 09:01:38
hill16no1man
ah i have heard it all georgia arent nobodies wait for it because they are champions of the second tier in rugby
hahahahaha How are Georgia nobodies? Explain how they are?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/01/2015 11:43:59    1687311

ormond

so kerry must be a big name in hurling circles because they have won a couple of christy ring titles
come on man georgia are mickey mousers
will they have any hope of getting out of a group at the world cup?
why dont they play in the european league the six nations if there a top team?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/01/2015 13:02:17    1687340

Georgia have never beaten a decent international side, have never even played Australia or New Zealand as far as I know, and when they organise a tournament in their own country Ireland don't send their international team, instead sending 'Emerging Ireland' for games that don't even count as an international cap. I would say that is enough reasons to justify calling them 'nobodies' alright hill.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 28/01/2015 13:16:01    1687351

Georgia aren't nobodies..... Ha ha. What a statement to make. We are talking about a sport that is the first choice sport in only 3 counties worldwide- SA, New Zealand and Wales and yet still Georgia are nobodies.

You have to give credit to the rugby authorities though. They have somehow made a World Cup since 1987. Granted it's the same teams every 4 years and it is harder not to qualify for it than it is to qualify for it but hey, don't let that get in the way.

I actually fancy Ireland to win this year's one. Obviously only if they beat the mighty Georgia first which as we all know will be next to impossible. And as an outside bet look out for the Romanians. I hear they scored 2 tries in a single match recently.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 28/01/2015 13:23:18    1687357