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2023 Dublin NFL Div 2 thread

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Replying To arock:  "I wouldnt disagree with you there, I think upfront its not just Small who is selfish for Dublin its a negative trait which makes them at times a hard watch."
It's like none of them fully trust one another! Some of the breaking attacks have been impressive but the goals are not coming. Very annoying to see the amount of times the ball is held up when another pass forward might have led to score.

Teams have started to realise that % play is to sit back as we don't have much of a threat from long range. That might change with Mannion being back and his point to day was fitting return.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 26/03/2023 16:34:36    2466741

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They're getting very frustrating to watch. Small is way too selfish, and he's not going to change at this stage. They should have had at least 3 goals, and if they don't start getting them, they won't beat any of the likely contenders."
I wouldnt disagree with you there, I think upfront its not just Small who is selfish for Dublin its a negative trait in team which needs to be corrected.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4918 - 26/03/2023 17:22:35    2466783

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Replying To ged:  "We have them at the border. They'll be back Monday"
What happend Ged? Cluxton sprung Mannion and Jack walks tommorow under the Monday agreement! Mickey might want to review his safe houses.

In all fairness though Louth finishing strong in Div2. They're defo the new No2 in Leinster. Mickeys done great stuff! there.

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 226 - 26/03/2023 19:44:49    2466876

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Replying To arock:  "I wouldnt disagree with you there, I think upfront its not just Small who is selfish for Dublin its a negative trait in team which needs to be corrected."
Positive is the spread of scores, I think 11 or 12 scored today, and only two from placed balls. Both are major pluses, a clever tactic to make it more difficult for teams to shut off options. Other than as before. that we don't have players who can kick points from outside the blanket. Then again few teams do. and even those who have tend to play the percentages.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 26/03/2023 19:52:28    2466880

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Will Dublin have to make a statement V Derry in the final. (Please forget the arguments about League finals, separate argument) When was the last time Dublin were beaten twice , in the same season, by same team? And by a div 2 team?

Please excuse any arrogance, none intended, just a genuine question for the knowledgeable!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 226 - 26/03/2023 20:11:17    2466890

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Cluxton stepped away from the panel, looks to have stepped back in again.

Ridiculously good news

Having that level of fella in the panel again both on and off the pitch

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20633 - 26/03/2023 20:28:27    2466899

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Will Dublin have to make a statement V Derry in the final. (Please forget the arguments about League finals, separate argument) When was the last time Dublin were beaten twice , in the same season, by same team? And by a div 2 team?

Please excuse any arrogance, none intended, just a genuine question for the knowledgeable!"
I'd say maybe Westmeath? They definitely beat Dublin in Division II final about 15 years ago, and i think maybe in series itself?

I reckon Derry will have half an eye on their first game against Fermanagh in Ulster. Fermanagh are flying and still have a couple of players to come back so Gallagher not be taking any chances with that. Dublin's last serious game - no harm to rest of Leinster - until quarter finals.

Seldom wet my beak in GAA betting but 8/11 Dublin might be good thing and doubt the price will last.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 26/03/2023 20:38:22    2466902

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cluxton stepped away from the panel, looks to have stepped back in again.

Ridiculously good news

Having that level of fella in the panel again both on and off the pitch"
Thats one pox of an expression, "stepping away" what happened to "left"? Stepping is for "Laninigans Ball"!?

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 226 - 26/03/2023 20:45:55    2466906

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cluxton stepped away from the panel, looks to have stepped back in again.

Ridiculously good news

Having that level of fella in the panel again both on and off the pitch"
Lanigan's ball. I stepped out and I stepped in again.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2079 - 26/03/2023 21:21:28    2466922

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Well done Dublin. On to the championship now

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3128 - 26/03/2023 21:41:32    2466928

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Will Dublin have to make a statement V Derry in the final. (Please forget the arguments about League finals, separate argument) When was the last time Dublin were beaten twice , in the same season, by same team? And by a div 2 team?

Please excuse any arrogance, none intended, just a genuine question for the knowledgeable!"
In 2012 Mayo beat Dublin in the league and the championship

LilywhiteGael (Kildare) - Posts: 96 - 26/03/2023 21:53:51    2466940

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Replying To LilywhiteGael:  "In 2012 Mayo beat Dublin in the league and the championship"
They did but they were not in Division II. Come to think of it I cannot recall when if ever Mayo were Division II?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 27/03/2023 10:09:06    2466983

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Puzzling comments from Keegan last night..

Describing Cluxton making an appearance a "distraction" and "would we have seen it in Gavin's time"

More looking for something to say (in his new job) rather than actually thinking about it. Because a far bigger distraction did happen under Gavin.

The Connolly saga could have possibly been described as a far greater "distraction".. shows up again last minute, Jim welcomes him back with open arms, almost put straight back in, and goes onto play a big part in securing the ultimate prize, didn't seem to faze the team much and all of which again happened under Jim Gavin.

Cluxton coming back into panel would have been known and discussed amongst the group and he wouldn't have come back if it would be any sort of negative to the team.

End of.

Don't see that myself, a player with his attributes, it's not a distraction at all, it's bolstering the panel both on and off the pitch.

Being there yesterday and spotting him warming up, it was a great moment. Huge cheer for him and tbh seeing him on the pitch again was special.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20633 - 27/03/2023 11:58:22    2467017

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They did but they were not in Division II. Come to think of it I cannot recall when if ever Mayo were Division II?"
Couple years ago during the covid league.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/03/2023 12:29:00    2467036

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They did but they were not in Division II. Come to think of it I cannot recall when if ever Mayo were Division II?"
Mayo were in division 2 only a couple of years ago but like Dublin came straight back up.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3796 - 27/03/2023 13:04:12    2467055

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They did but they were not in Division II. Come to think of it I cannot recall when if ever Mayo were Division II?"
2021 - Shared title with Kildare

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 893 - 27/03/2023 13:15:48    2467060

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Replying To anotheralias:  "2021 - Shared title with Kildare"
Right. I can remember long ago stuff but not last week!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 27/03/2023 13:34:49    2467068

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Dublin cut from 8/11 to 8/13. Should have gotten my money down!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2920 - 27/03/2023 13:51:27    2467074

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Puzzling comments from Keegan last night..

Describing Cluxton making an appearance a "distraction" and "would we have seen it in Gavin's time"

More looking for something to say (in his new job) rather than actually thinking about it. Because a far bigger distraction did happen under Gavin.

The Connolly saga could have possibly been described as a far greater "distraction".. shows up again last minute, Jim welcomes him back with open arms, almost put straight back in, and goes onto play a big part in securing the ultimate prize, didn't seem to faze the team much and all of which again happened under Jim Gavin.

Cluxton coming back into panel would have been known and discussed amongst the group and he wouldn't have come back if it would be any sort of negative to the team.

End of.

Don't see that myself, a player with his attributes, it's not a distraction at all, it's bolstering the panel both on and off the pitch.

Being there yesterday and spotting him warming up, it was a great moment. Huge cheer for him and tbh seeing him on the pitch again was special."
Bang on. Having him back with his experience will be invaluable and no doubt he will be back driving standards in training going forward. I genuinely cannot see a negative spin on this - except for O'Hanlon who will not see as many minutes come crunch time in the championship. The lads on Off the Ball this morning seemed to think Cluxton won't be starting but I honestly can't see him returning unless he was told he can genuinely challenge for the no.1 spot. For me if he's anywhere remotely close to his form of a couple of years ago (it is a big if) then he goes back into the team no question. His ability to launch kicks over the press is phenomenal at times and would be a great bit of artillery to add back into the mix. The fact he has been back in the fold for a couple of weeks was great to hear seeing as nobody else in the country seemed to have an idea!

Looking forward to Sunday and would like us to really have a go at Derry. Not sure who is ref yet but the last day I thought Hurson made a balls of a lot of decisions and for both sides. If the game is let flow a bit more we could be in for a decent spectacle.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 27/03/2023 14:28:08    2467088

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Couple years ago during the covid league."
And got to the all ireland final that year if I remember correctly?

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 159 - 27/03/2023 15:05:59    2467103

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