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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Dublin cut from 8/11 to 8/13. Should have gotten my money down!"
Don't waste your money…. This Dublin team are going backwards at an alarming rate… when they come up against top opposition they will be dust.. Louth could have got another 3 goals easily yesterday… When you see guys been recalled after retiring is never a good sign…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3809 - 27/03/2023 17:10:02    2467134

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "Bang on. Having him back with his experience will be invaluable and no doubt he will be back driving standards in training going forward. I genuinely cannot see a negative spin on this - except for O'Hanlon who will not see as many minutes come crunch time in the championship. The lads on Off the Ball this morning seemed to think Cluxton won't be starting but I honestly can't see him returning unless he was told he can genuinely challenge for the no.1 spot. For me if he's anywhere remotely close to his form of a couple of years ago (it is a big if) then he goes back into the team no question. His ability to launch kicks over the press is phenomenal at times and would be a great bit of artillery to add back into the mix. The fact he has been back in the fold for a couple of weeks was great to hear seeing as nobody else in the country seemed to have an idea!

Looking forward to Sunday and would like us to really have a go at Derry. Not sure who is ref yet but the last day I thought Hurson made a balls of a lot of decisions and for both sides. If the game is let flow a bit more we could be in for a decent spectacle."
Well said.

Looking forward to the Derry game myself

Reminds me of a few years ago

Derry beat us in the league with another late score and we ended up meeting again in Croke Park and BB scored a wonder goal off his left foot..very unique goal coming back out of the inside post..

The Derry keeper to this day still doesn't know what just happend.. ball went by him like a tic tac UFO

You don't hit them any sweeter than this, check out this Dublin move, the perfect example of Jim Gavin's Dublin

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Rn6FT9929no

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 27/03/2023 17:27:56    2467140

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Don't waste your money…. This Dublin team are going backwards at an alarming rate… when they come up against top opposition they will be dust.. Louth could have got another 3 goals easily yesterday… When you see guys been recalled after retiring is never a good sign…"
I think they will win on Sunday, but won't be taking 8/13.

Dublin have obviously fallen back a good bit, but were only beaten in last minute last year, and may be slightly better this time around. Jury out on that. I Don't think they will win all Ireland but there's only 3/4 teams who are capable of beating them.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 27/03/2023 20:17:04    2467182

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Don't waste your money…. This Dublin team are going backwards at an alarming rate… when they come up against top opposition they will be dust.. Louth could have got another 3 goals easily yesterday… When you see guys been recalled after retiring is never a good sign…"
Pray tell ForeverBlue2, and genuine question, who is this "top opposition" you speak of that will turn us to dust?

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 299 - 27/03/2023 21:19:36    2467197

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Pray tell ForeverBlue2, and genuine question, who is this "top opposition" you speak of that will turn us to dust?"
I think Kerry, Mayo, Galway or even Tyrone could show up the weaknesses in this current Dublin team… I could be totally wrong but they have regressed an awful lot under the current management….Even against a very poor Meath team despite playing with the aid of a strong breeze in the first half every Dublin player was playing in their own half on several occasions… that's not how Dublin ever played under Gavin…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3809 - 28/03/2023 10:18:25    2467234

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I think Kerry, Mayo, Galway or even Tyrone could show up the weaknesses in this current Dublin team… I could be totally wrong but they have regressed an awful lot under the current management….Even against a very poor Meath team despite playing with the aid of a strong breeze in the first half every Dublin player was playing in their own half on several occasions… that's not how Dublin ever played under Gavin…!"
They are obviously not as good as the team up to 2020. Then again, neither is anyone else. A few teams probably ahead of them but none would have lived with Dublin 2018/19.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 28/03/2023 13:57:24    2467324

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Another day out Sunday, Div 2 the gift that keeps giving, best league in yonks this year, really enjoyed it.

How good was it to see Mannion back in blue at the weekend.

Cluxton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unreal! This is going to be fun!

Believe he and Brian Howard togged out in a challenge game for the Dublin development squad Vs Meath on Monday.

We're all set for the last dance!

Up The Dubs.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4515 - 29/03/2023 13:38:55    2467568

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They are obviously not as good as the team up to 2020. Then again, neither is anyone else. A few teams probably ahead of them but none would have lived with Dublin 2018/19."
This is a million miles away from the Dublin team of 2018/19….. but you are correct… not to many good teams out there.

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3809 - 29/03/2023 14:28:13    2467584

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Genuinely interested as to what the Dubs think of Cluxton return. If he is returning in some sort of mentor role fair enough but if he goes back in between the sticks it doesn't look great. Find it fairly baffling to be honest considering how well the 2 lads have done.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8370 - 29/03/2023 15:05:30    2467602

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Genuinely interested as to what the Dubs think of Cluxton return. If he is returning in some sort of mentor role fair enough but if he goes back in between the sticks it doesn't look great. Find it fairly baffling to be honest considering how well the 2 lads have done."
I think it's more a case of getting everyone on board for a big push this year myself. Perhaps the last one before the last of the greats hang up their boots.

Cluxton's return, and Gilroy's and Mannion ought to be seen in that regard, "The last dance" as my friend says above :-)

Go down - or not! - with their boots on.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 29/03/2023 16:30:34    2467637

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Genuinely interested as to what the Dubs think of Cluxton return. If he is returning in some sort of mentor role fair enough but if he goes back in between the sticks it doesn't look great. Find it fairly baffling to be honest considering how well the 2 lads have done."
Genuinely don't see any harm.

Dublin are light on keepers at the moment, if injuries clear up and be steps away again that's grand.

If injuries don't clear up we've got a decent option in there.

If injuries do clear but they aren't performing to a level that's better than him then we have a better option in there.

Cluxton coming back in isn't going to be the losing of an All-Ireland for what is a Division 2 team!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 29/03/2023 16:50:03    2467647

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I think it's more a case of getting everyone on board for a big push this year myself. Perhaps the last one before the last of the greats hang up their boots.

Cluxton's return, and Gilroy's and Mannion ought to be seen in that regard, "The last dance" as my friend says above :-)

Go down - or not! - with their boots on."
You can't put Mannion and McCaff etc in the same boat as Cluxton. If Mannion can stay fit and still has the pace he is a starter for good reason. And everyone knew he was back pre season. 2 new goalkeepers have impressed and then the best of all time walks back in after the league is over. At 42. Fairly random If you ask me and doesn't look great on Farrell if I am honest.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8370 - 29/03/2023 17:01:00    2467652

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You can't put Mannion and McCaff etc in the same boat as Cluxton. If Mannion can stay fit and still has the pace he is a starter for good reason. And everyone knew he was back pre season. 2 new goalkeepers have impressed and then the best of all time walks back in after the league is over. At 42. Fairly random If you ask me and doesn't look great on Farrell if I am honest."
He wouldn't be back if it wasn't thought to be a good thing by all. O'Hanlon has been good, Comerford is out for the year as far as I can see. No idea about Shiels but still there i think.

The strength of the Gavin team was there were 25 lads all of whom were worthy of a start, and some of whom were perfectly happy with being "super subs" - McMenamin, Bastick, MDMA (eventually!!) and even the older Alan Brogan. Egos won't win All Irelands, a lesson hard learned by Dublin, and perhaps too late by others.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 30/03/2023 12:49:11    2467778

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Derry v Dublin

Hopefully a few valuable lessons learned the last day out but Derry will have their purple patches.

Hopefully Dubs by 3 or 4 but Derry proved they have a good engine and are capable of punishing Dublin's weaknesses.

If Dubs don't conceede a goal they'll win. Think maybe only 1 game thus far they've kept a clean sheet if you excuse the soccer lingo

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 30/03/2023 13:35:09    2467796

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You can't put Mannion and McCaff etc in the same boat as Cluxton. If Mannion can stay fit and still has the pace he is a starter for good reason. And everyone knew he was back pre season. 2 new goalkeepers have impressed and then the best of all time walks back in after the league is over. At 42. Fairly random If you ask me and doesn't look great on Farrell if I am honest."
Dessie stated on Sunday that 2 of his 3 goalies are injured and Stephen was willing to come in as cover, so what doesn't look great?

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 884 - 30/03/2023 13:53:36    2467805

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Dessie stated on Sunday that 2 of his 3 goalies are injured and Stephen was willing to come in as cover, so what doesn't look great?"
That's why I asked what was happening? 2 of 3 injured is news to me.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8370 - 30/03/2023 14:06:19    2467813

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "He wouldn't be back if it wasn't thought to be a good thing by all. O'Hanlon has been good, Comerford is out for the year as far as I can see. No idea about Shiels but still there i think.

The strength of the Gavin team was there were 25 lads all of whom were worthy of a start, and some of whom were perfectly happy with being "super subs" - McMenamin, Bastick, MDMA (eventually!!) and even the older Alan Brogan. Egos won't win All Irelands, a lesson hard learned by Dublin, and perhaps too late by others."
Surely you work with the lads there and coming through. Bring back Cluxton as a goalie coach and let him influence things that way. Sounds like he would be brilliant in a coaching role.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 30/03/2023 14:27:48    2467827

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "He wouldn't be back if it wasn't thought to be a good thing by all. O'Hanlon has been good, Comerford is out for the year as far as I can see. No idea about Shiels but still there i think.

The strength of the Gavin team was there were 25 lads all of whom were worthy of a start, and some of whom were perfectly happy with being "super subs" - McMenamin, Bastick, MDMA (eventually!!) and even the older Alan Brogan. Egos won't win All Irelands, a lesson hard learned by Dublin, and perhaps too late by others."
That's fair enough and not trying to stir at all just genuinely interested. I still don't think it's a great move.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8370 - 30/03/2023 15:36:54    2467844

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "That's fair enough and not trying to stir at all just genuinely interested. I still don't think it's a great move."
James O'Donoghue hit a nerve with Paddy Andrews on the OTB podcast saying it smacks or desperation, Andrews was ripping.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 30/03/2023 21:41:47    2467899

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Dessie stated on Sunday that 2 of his 3 goalies are injured and Stephen was willing to come in as cover, so what doesn't look great?"
Philly McMahon reckons he shouldn't just be back as cover, that he should be back as number 1.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8370 - 31/03/2023 08:58:45    2467906

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