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Replying To jamsie: "So looks like Tyrrellspass v Caulry (unless Shamrocks do Garrycastle a favour) , with the winners playing The Downs. Lomans, Kinnegad , + Killucan/Athlone/Tang on the other side. Shamrocks and Moate could still technically qualify , but it would take unthinkable swings in scoring difference. So really they have nothing to play for. Rosemount, Tyrrellspass, and The Downs with nothing to play for either." Id imagine The Downs would like to get one over Garrycastle and knock them out of the c/ship seeing as Garrycastle knocked them out last year in semis-not much love lost between these 2 in any case but if Caulry beat Shamrocks then the Downs game disent matter. Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 165 - 15/08/2022 12:09:41 2437482 Link
Replying To jamsie: "So looks like Tyrrellspass v Caulry (unless Shamrocks do Garrycastle a favour) , with the winners playing The Downs. Lomans, Kinnegad , + Killucan/Athlone/Tang on the other side. Shamrocks and Moate could still technically qualify , but it would take unthinkable swings in scoring difference. So really they have nothing to play for. Rosemount, Tyrrellspass, and The Downs with nothing to play for either." Isn't it great that so many clubs have something to play for going into the last round of games. This system is really good and most games have been competitive. The standard in group B might not be great but across senior & intermediate the last round of fixtures is usually full of drama and I'd expect nothing less in 2 weeks! Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 15/08/2022 12:14:01 2437483 Link
Shamrocks with nothing to play for? Strange statement, they have a chance to stay in group A, they'll surely give it a lash. Moate likewise, Surely Garrycastle would expect Shamrocks to contest the Caulry match properly. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 15/08/2022 12:29:32 2437489 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Shamrocks with nothing to play for? Strange statement, they have a chance to stay in group A, they'll surely give it a lash. Moate likewise, Surely Garrycastle would expect Shamrocks to contest the Caulry match properly." Check out the scoring difference. Shamrocks have no chance. Even if they beat Caulry by 10 points they'd need Garrycastle to lose by more than 20. Not saying they won't contest it - of course they will. But they don't have anything tangible to play for. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 15/08/2022 13:33:02 2437503 Link
I still have a feeling that if Caulry, Garrycastle and Shamrocks end up on 2 points that It will be a 3 way playoff. You cant be knocked out of a championship on score difference when 3 teams are involved Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 15/08/2022 15:10:09 2437523 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I still have a feeling that if Caulry, Garrycastle and Shamrocks end up on 2 points that It will be a 3 way playoff. You cant be knocked out of a championship on score difference when 3 teams are involved" Moate were knocked out in such a scenario last year. They finished on same points as Shamrocks and Caulry, but lost out on scoring difference. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 15/08/2022 15:23:04 2437525 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I still have a feeling that if Caulry, Garrycastle and Shamrocks end up on 2 points that It will be a 3 way playoff. You cant be knocked out of a championship on score difference when 3 teams are involved" 3 teams scoring difference applies-2 teams goes head to head. Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 165 - 15/08/2022 16:48:11 2437541 Link
Teams can't be relegated from senior to intermediate on score difference but moving from section A to B or vice versa is allowed. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 15/08/2022 17:38:19 2437554 Link
Junior looks very interesting this year. Very little between Joes, Bun and Multy in my eyes. Bun v Multy will tell a good bit but with both teams through already, neither will want to show their hand too much. Can't see a winner from anywhere other than Joes, Bun or Multy although Garrycastle and the Down both going quite well on the other side. westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 105 - 15/08/2022 20:53:45 2437577 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I still have a feeling that if Caulry, Garrycastle and Shamrocks end up on 2 points that It will be a 3 way playoff. You cant be knocked out of a championship on score difference when 3 teams are involved" I'm fairly certain that if the 3 teams all end up on 2 points, then scoring difference will apply. However scoring difference is based on the results between those 3 teams only. Garrycastle already beat Mullingar Shamrocks by 2 points and lost to Caulry by 1 point, so as it stands Garrycastle are +1 after those 2 games. As Caulry and Shamrocks haven't met yet, it currently stands as Caulry +1 and Shamrocks -2. If Shamrocks beat Caulry by 4 points or more, and Garrycastle are beaten by the Downs, then Shamrocks qualify for QF's ! KooCullen (Westmeath) - Posts: 82 - 15/08/2022 21:10:13 2437578 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I still have a feeling that if Caulry, Garrycastle and Shamrocks end up on 2 points that It will be a 3 way playoff. You cant be knocked out of a championship on score difference when 3 teams are involved" You can't be relegated on score difference but you can be knocked out as far as I can remember. Gaawestmeath (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 15/08/2022 21:19:42 2437580 Link
Garrycastle are in a bit of a strange situation. The only way their result with The Downs will matter is if Caulry v Shamrocks ends in a draw. They could win and will still go out if Caulry win. They could lose and will still go through if Shamrocks win, unless there is a huge swing in score difference, which seems highly unlikely. anon (None) - Posts: 353 - 16/08/2022 08:57:29 2437590 Link
All the pressure on Caulry They are a arrogant bunch of players and wont feel the pressure. People around Mount Temple are already talking about a S/F Vs The Downs and how they will beat them. They still have to get pass Shamrocks and Tyrellspass..... Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 16/08/2022 09:46:15 2437594 Link
Replying To KooCullen: "I'm fairly certain that if the 3 teams all end up on 2 points, then scoring difference will apply. However scoring difference is based on the results between those 3 teams only. Garrycastle already beat Mullingar Shamrocks by 2 points and lost to Caulry by 1 point, so as it stands Garrycastle are +1 after those 2 games. As Caulry and Shamrocks haven't met yet, it currently stands as Caulry +1 and Shamrocks -2. If Shamrocks beat Caulry by 4 points or more, and Garrycastle are beaten by the Downs, then Shamrocks qualify for QF's !" Where you getting this from? Not saying you're wrong, as things might have changed. But last year when Shamrocks, Caulry and Moate all finished on same points the scoring difference was based on all 5 games. Shamrocks lost to both Caulry and Moate and still finished top, mainly thanks to one big win against Rosemount which boosted their scoring difference. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 16/08/2022 10:25:05 2437603 Link
There is allowance under rule 6.21 to use only the scoring difference between the tied teams if "In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walk over" But that wouldn't be the case in this scenario or indeed last year. Perhaps there are local bye laws in place ?? BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 16/08/2022 14:20:28 2437658 Link
The Downs will take it easy against Garrycastle, give the hurlers a break and the extended panel a game. Garrycastle will take advantage of this and win by probably 20pts. Shamrocks will beat Caulry with in injury time by scoring a late goal. This scenario allows Garrycastle to move forward and probably win the Championship. For those Caulry supporters they wouldn't have a hope against Tyrellspass, they can never beat them in the championship. Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 17/08/2022 11:52:07 2437758 Link
Replying To Icehouse: "The Downs will take it easy against Garrycastle, give the hurlers a break and the extended panel a game. Garrycastle will take advantage of this and win by probably 20pts. Shamrocks will beat Caulry with in injury time by scoring a late goal. This scenario allows Garrycastle to move forward and probably win the Championship. For those Caulry supporters they wouldn't have a hope against Tyrellspass, they can never beat them in the championship." There's not a hope the downs will take it handy against garrycastle did you not see last year when they took it handy against tyrellspass and then we're beaten in the semis against garrycastle they will only be gunning to beat garrycastle you would think And as for Caulry your right they wouldn't beat tpass after all there's a reason they only have 2 points in the group up to now Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 17/08/2022 13:35:07 2437769 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "There's not a hope the downs will take it handy against garrycastle did you not see last year when they took it handy against tyrellspass and then we're beaten in the semis against garrycastle they will only be gunning to beat garrycastle you would think And as for Caulry your right they wouldn't beat tpass after all there's a reason they only have 2 points in the group up to now" Well the main reason they only have 2 points is because they have lost 3 games against the 3 best teams in the county. Tyrrellspass were knocked out last year with a game to spare , let's not forget. I don't think there would be too much between the two of them. We will probably get to find out in 1/4 final. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 17/08/2022 14:30:28 2437775 Link
Garrycastle/Downs games means nothing at all unless Shamrocks/Caulry is a draw then Garrycastle need a win. As I said above Caulry are in pole position. Win and they play T-Pass in Q/F , lose and they are out. Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 17/08/2022 14:40:32 2437778 Link
Sorry, got Semis mixed up in last post, correct one below Quarter Finals A Killucan/Athlone/Tang/Moate v Losers of St. Lomans/Kinnegad B Tyrrellspass v Caulry/Garrycastle/Mullingar Shamrocks. Semi Finals The Downs v B Winners of St. Lomans/Kinnegad v A KooCullen (Westmeath) - Posts: 82 - 17/08/2022 21:14:20 2437824 Link