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Team and panel named, thoughts? Niall Mitchell injured and a big loss but hopefully back in the next game or two.
Few lads missing, involved with Fitzgibbon the likes of Eoin Daly, Peadar Scally etc.
Hopefully we give a good account of ourselves, and put in a decent performance.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 770 - 04/02/2023 14:22:56    2456365

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "That's just a joke really"
There are actually quite a few Longford hurlers that came from Westmeath over the years. Tbf to Longford they don't have much of a playing pool.

The weaker counties have an allowance for drafting a certain number of outside players. I recall some limitations if the drafted lads played senior county in recent years.

gedupoutofit (Westmeath) - Posts: 163 - 04/02/2023 16:13:08    2456391

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Replying To gedupoutofit:  "There are actually quite a few Longford hurlers that came from Westmeath over the years. Tbf to Longford they don't have much of a playing pool.

The weaker counties have an allowance for drafting a certain number of outside players. I recall some limitations if the drafted lads played senior county in recent years."
Parent rule for a lot of the ringtown lads

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 217 - 04/02/2023 20:57:36    2456461

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Frank Aughey also assisting Adrian Moran with Longford hurlers. Ringtown one of the most represented clubs at senior inter county. Pat burke, Charlie Flynn, Niall Moran, Jason Moran, Emmet Corrigan and Mark Cunningham."
2 or 3 of them wouldn't make a few of the senior club teams in westmeath

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 217 - 04/02/2023 20:58:15    2456462

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "2 or 3 of them wouldn't make a few of the senior club teams in westmeath"
Absolutely, joke of a set up. If this is how the game is meant to be promoted to improve standards in weaker counties then we're in trouble

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 04/02/2023 21:21:56    2456467

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Replying To Dheen:  "Team and panel named, thoughts? Niall Mitchell injured and a big loss but hopefully back in the next game or two.
Few lads missing, involved with Fitzgibbon the likes of Eoin Daly, Peadar Scally etc.
Hopefully we give a good account of ourselves, and put in a decent performance."
Ah sure there'll be a raft of changes before throw in, Glennon G.Greville, Keyes and maybe a few more "subs" will start. Thought Cunningham deserved a start, Jogger won't be centre back, I'd say Robbie will have to slot in there, Shane Clavin back to midfield. Centre back is proving a problem spot for us, I'd prefer if Robbie stayed at midfield and Gary went into centre back, either way management need to settle a team for the winnable games this year.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 540 - 05/02/2023 13:32:10    2456534

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A big trimming down in Ennis. It will be all about the relegation final for us anyway so hopefully we'll have a fully fit and steady team come then.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 770 - 05/02/2023 15:21:25    2456554

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That's it Dheen. Wexford next week who performed poorly last evening and will be out to avenge last year's championship result. We have Limerick and Cork and Galway to come so nothing easy. We can just hope to be somewhat competitive before relegation match against probably Laois or Antrim. Cork away will be especially difficult on a big pitch and four or five trouncings won't do much for morale.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 05/02/2023 15:54:36    2456561

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Went to Longford today to watch football as it made more sense with the distances involved. It was always going to be an uphill task in Ennis but score line looks embarrassing frankly. Only a handful of scores from play again while conceding 4-22 from play

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 05/02/2023 17:50:06    2456647

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We can expect similar score-lines in upcoming matches with the quality of teams we're facing. The most worrying aspect is our failure to score goals, four competitive matches this year and no green flag raised. 20+ point defeats likely unless we can manufacture a goal or two per match.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 05/02/2023 18:38:00    2456682

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "We can expect similar score-lines in upcoming matches with the quality of teams we're facing. The most worrying aspect is our failure to score goals, four competitive matches this year and no green flag raised. 20+ point defeats likely unless we can manufacture a goal or two per match."
Yeah that's a major concern, not being able to find the net.. but also we've been very poor up front in general, struggling to score from play in the last few matches. Aside from the Doyles today we had nothing else, Niall O'Brien wasn't on it.
Thankfully there's some good forwards coming through u20 at the moment in the likes of David O'Reilly, Darragh McCormack, Peter Murphy, Eamonn Cunneen, Peter Clarke, however they'll all need time to develop and patience will be needed big time.
I'm very interested to see how the 20s get on this year as I believe they've a good panel.
Not much news about them as of yet though. Will there be an u20 development league like last year?

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 770 - 05/02/2023 19:45:00    2456741

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I know we were always going to be up against it but our performance was poorest I've seen in a long time. Numerous missed frees and poor first touch and aimless clearances. Darragh Egerton was only standout for us …….. going to be a tough campaign.

puglerdaly (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 05/02/2023 19:46:23    2456743

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Replying To Dheen:  "Yeah that's a major concern, not being able to find the net.. but also we've been very poor up front in general, struggling to score from play in the last few matches. Aside from the Doyles today we had nothing else, Niall O'Brien wasn't on it.
Thankfully there's some good forwards coming through u20 at the moment in the likes of David O'Reilly, Darragh McCormack, Peter Murphy, Eamonn Cunneen, Peter Clarke, however they'll all need time to develop and patience will be needed big time.
I'm very interested to see how the 20s get on this year as I believe they've a good panel.
Not much news about them as of yet though. Will there be an u20 development league like last year?"
I don't know if the u20s are as strong as you think, hope I'm wrong but there's no mad stand out players in it that you'd say is the next big thing, no real outrageous talent, maybe McCormack but he has a long road with recovery.
Between that and Longford robbing all our best lads I can see a bit of a slip in the next year or two

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 05/02/2023 21:39:22    2456805

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Replying To Dheen:  "Team and panel named, thoughts? Niall Mitchell injured and a big loss but hopefully back in the next game or two.
Few lads missing, involved with Fitzgibbon the likes of Eoin Daly, Peadar Scally etc.
Hopefully we give a good account of ourselves, and put in a decent performance."
Niall Mitchell out for the foreseeable and from what I believe he will miss the whole county campaign

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 06/02/2023 09:19:00    2456826

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "I don't know if the u20s are as strong as you think, hope I'm wrong but there's no mad stand out players in it that you'd say is the next big thing, no real outrageous talent, maybe McCormack but he has a long road with recovery.
Between that and Longford robbing all our best lads I can see a bit of a slip in the next year or two"
David O'Reilly? Man of the match in the county semi final and county final, probably the best forward in the championship as well at 17. That would be stand out to me, along with Darragh McCormack as you mentioned. Peter Murphy another who would be a stand out hurler on his day, Castletown won the minor final last year because they moved him back to centre back where he dominated the game.
We'll see how the u20s go, hopefully they can make a good impression, also the majority of them would be underage again next year.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 770 - 06/02/2023 10:37:40    2456835

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huge amount of negativity already after only one game in the league, give them a chance

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 734 - 06/02/2023 13:19:02    2456859

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Yesterday after the first 25 minutes was very poor.In the second half we lost all shape and left Clare walk through as they wanted.Egarton who was outstanding and Glennon in the first half were the only ones who could hold their heads up. We missed 7 scoreable frees but only created 1 goal chance.Forwards need to up their intensity levels big time they were all bullied except Glennon and Mccabe who tried very hard.We have an awful lot of improving to do before we are even half competitive against Wexford,Cork,Limerick and Galway.Playing the best teams in Ireland is no excuse for our lack of intensity.Mitchell,Clarke and Boyle are big losses but we have to show a bit of pride and keep our Division 1 status so the promising young players we are all talking about can play this level.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 06/02/2023 13:43:23    2456861

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "I don't know if the u20s are as strong as you think, hope I'm wrong but there's no mad stand out players in it that you'd say is the next big thing, no real outrageous talent, maybe McCormack but he has a long road with recovery.
Between that and Longford robbing all our best lads I can see a bit of a slip in the next year or two"
Which "best lads" did we rob? Didn't look up to much against Cavan on Saturday anyway.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/02/2023 17:01:48    2456883

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Peter Murphy is just out of minor and David O' Reilly still in school, O' Reilly is a key player for Rosemount and an excellent footballer, no guarantee he will even choose hurling over football at senior level, Darragh McCormack has played 2 games at senior club championship level, it's ridiculous to be naming these youngsters as potential inter county saviours, be at least 2/3 years before they're even able for senior level.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 06/02/2023 19:44:30    2456912

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Do all these players that have transferred to Longford have Longford parentage or ancestry, I want to see Longford hurling grow too but too many players going from westmeath I would be against, it not doing any good to Longford in the long run, the home based players are losing places on the team regardless of how good or bad they are

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 734 - 06/02/2023 21:11:10    2456927

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