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Westmeath Hurling thread

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Hopefully you're right as our crucial games in league and championship are in April and June but we face very tough games in the league beforehand and possible hammerings won't do much for morale. Mark Cunningham only newcomer who might see significant game time in league."
Yeah I agree, Mark Cunningham has great potential.
A lot of the u20s need to fill out, they are all good hurlers. Darragh McCormack would have been retained if he wasn't injured, he'd be up to the physicality required.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 785 - 22/01/2023 20:48:24    2453502

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Liam varley and clarke big losses for westmeath.

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 214 - 23/01/2023 15:01:44    2453683

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Liam varley and clarke big losses for westmeath."
Without a doubt as is Cormac Boyle.The return of Gary Greville and Shane Clavin compensate to a degree
.Mark Cunningham is a find but the other talented youngsters need a bit more time.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1457 - 24/01/2023 11:40:39    2453886

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has macabe or o roarke from father daltons been involved in the panel at all yet this year does anyone know

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 24/01/2023 12:22:20    2453915

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Always feel Westmeath only need one step more up the ladder to make the break through. Your hurling is as crisp and sharp as anyone's. I wonder is the problem that your are fairly equal in both codes and don't have the resources that Dublin, Cork and Galway have ?

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 24/01/2023 16:00:45    2454012

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Replying To Canuck:  "Always feel Westmeath only need one step more up the ladder to make the break through. Your hurling is as crisp and sharp as anyone's. I wonder is the problem that your are fairly equal in both codes and don't have the resources that Dublin, Cork and Galway have ?"
Clearly for a small dual county like ours its a big issue.Hurling is now no longer the poor relation and is well treated but total resources are especially as both codes deserately need a centre of excellence and an improved Cusack Park.I believe if we are to reach the next level our clubs in Mullingar and Athlone must reach the levels of Clonkill Rahrney and Castletown.Also great traditional clubs such as Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels need to up their underage set ups.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1457 - 25/01/2023 11:27:13    2454126

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Noble aspirations but in the Athlone scenario it's virtually impossible, club has made strides but they struggle to maintain players involvement in a predominantly soccer, rugby, Gaelic town. Not sure what more likes of Brownstown, Ringtown or the Gaels can do, it's a population issue, they're fielding teams and doing their utmost, society has changed, rural clubs numbers have dropped significantly, Brownstown success over 20 years was largely built on 3-4 families, we don't have large families in society.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1490 - 25/01/2023 11:59:57    2454138

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Replying To jobber:  "Clearly for a small dual county like ours its a big issue.Hurling is now no longer the poor relation and is well treated but total resources are especially as both codes deserately need a centre of excellence and an improved Cusack Park.I believe if we are to reach the next level our clubs in Mullingar and Athlone must reach the levels of Clonkill Rahrney and Castletown.Also great traditional clubs such as Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels need to up their underage set ups."
Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels are all in amalgamations at underage.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/01/2023 12:35:06    2454148

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Replying To keeper7:  "Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels are all in amalgamations at underage."
And if the 4 of them all amalgamated at adult level they might make 1 decent senior team

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 270 - 25/01/2023 13:49:29    2454183

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Replying To keeper7:  "Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels are all in amalgamations at underage."
I think in the next couple of years Castlepollard will be back by themselves.
Ringtown, Brownstown etc will have to rely on amalgamation at underage because of the lack of population in those small areas.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 785 - 25/01/2023 13:59:47    2454189

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Replying To jobber:  "Clearly for a small dual county like ours its a big issue.Hurling is now no longer the poor relation and is well treated but total resources are especially as both codes deserately need a centre of excellence and an improved Cusack Park.I believe if we are to reach the next level our clubs in Mullingar and Athlone must reach the levels of Clonkill Rahrney and Castletown.Also great traditional clubs such as Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels need to up their underage set ups."
If you look at how close the top end of the club game and inter county, would you be better off in some counties putting your resources into a few clubs in one code. I know you need games but is quality better than quantity ? When the NHL started out there were only four teams but they played each other ten times and were at level above the rest. It is 30 today but if that first four did not set a standard it would have gone no where.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 25/01/2023 15:23:59    2454224

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Replying To jobber:  "Clearly for a small dual county like ours its a big issue.Hurling is now no longer the poor relation and is well treated but total resources are especially as both codes deserately need a centre of excellence and an improved Cusack Park.I believe if we are to reach the next level our clubs in Mullingar and Athlone must reach the levels of Clonkill Rahrney and Castletown.Also great traditional clubs such as Castlepollard.Brownstown,Ringtown and Lough Lene Gaels need to up their underage set ups."
If you look at how close the top end of the club game and inter county, would you be better off in some counties putting your resources into a few clubs in one code. I know you need games but is quality better than quantity ? When the NHL started out there were only four teams but they played each other ten times and were at level above the rest. It is 30 today but if that first four did not set a standard it would have gone no where.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 25/01/2023 15:36:46    2454228

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Replying To Canuck:  "If you look at how close the top end of the club game and inter county, would you be better off in some counties putting your resources into a few clubs in one code. I know you need games but is quality better than quantity ? When the NHL started out there were only four teams but they played each other ten times and were at level above the rest. It is 30 today but if that first four did not set a standard it would have gone no where."
In Westmeaths case considering our current numbers only 6 senior clubs 15 in total we are arguably punching above our weight. To make the next step we need our 2 big towns to produce inter county standard hurlers.We have no player from Athlone on our 35 and a handful from Mullingar.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1457 - 25/01/2023 17:37:28    2454264

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If we got Lough Lene Gaels, Castlepollard, St Oliver Plunketts and Cullion to the level of Castletown, Raharney and Clonkill it would make some difference.
There's evidence now at underage that Plunketts and Cullion are making ground on the big 3.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 785 - 25/01/2023 18:16:41    2454275

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Does anyone know who is over the minors this year?
I presume Andrew Dermody is over the u20s again

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 785 - 26/01/2023 09:19:31    2454335

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Replying To Dheen:  "Does anyone know who is over the minors this year?
I presume Andrew Dermody is over the u20s again"
Clarke from Castletown with Andy Mitchell from Clonkill.

Onionbagger (Westmeath) - Posts: 77 - 26/01/2023 12:15:58    2454377

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Replying To Onionbagger:  "Clarke from Castletown with Andy Mitchell from Clonkill."
Two good hurling men. I'm sure they've put together a strong panel of lads.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 785 - 26/01/2023 12:54:59    2454389

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Replying To midfield9:  "In case you're new to the GAA the County Board meet each January to adopt a planning report which sets the structures of all competitions for the year ahead. Only then can a master fixture list be prepared and issued."
Has there been any word from this meeting?

Bunbros11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 26/01/2023 15:27:53    2454423

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Replying To Dheen:  "If we got Lough Lene Gaels, Castlepollard, St Oliver Plunketts and Cullion to the level of Castletown, Raharney and Clonkill it would make some difference.
There's evidence now at underage that Plunketts and Cullion are making ground on the big 3."
Na Parsaigh(LLG and Turin) and Clann Na Gael (Brownstown and Castlepollard) were both very competitive at 13,15 and 17 last year

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1457 - 26/01/2023 17:32:09    2454458

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Replying To Bunbros11:  "Has there been any word from this meeting?"
Club secretaries/delegates have the details. The fixtures committee had to devise 5 different options for fixture dates, it all depends on how well or badly the county footballers get on. The league's will be finished in June, county finals in both codes will be played by mid October. Massive fixture congestion in August for dual players, not helped by the Fleadh.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 543 - 27/01/2023 10:57:59    2454514

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