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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Please Viking don't be deconstructing arguments, while equipping yourself with the facts - its jolly unsporting. Our two counties plus Clare and Waterford all draw from a fairly equal pool. Cork have about times the hurlers of any of them four counties. Galway have a huge pool also as you again rightly point out."
HNY OTM. I was only pointing out to him that yourselves, us, Clare and Waterford aren't the juggernauts the other Liam Mccarthy counties are but actually have more similar playing numbers to Kildare and Meath and are far closer in playing numbers to most of the other Joe Mac counties than we are to Cork etc.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 14/01/2023 13:26:03    2452397

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "I think that team will struggle against Antrim today. Our half forward line strong enough but quite a few deficiencies elsewhere. While there have been a few new additions to the panel, I don't see them adding any extra real depth to what's already there. We are still struggling quite badly with the goalkeeper's position and need a solution here, the new additions don't bring the extra physicality that we require, young McCormack would have helped in this respect if not injured. Couple of obvious good experienced options on the bench, but some that would struggle to make an impact at this level. Some cite Gallagher and Clinton's absence as a loss but I think both have had plenty of chances and not been at the standard required for some time now."
Antrim will be missing their Dunloy lads. And will likely be experimenting as well. I've a suspicion that with the game being at home in your centre of excellence you will win it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 14/01/2023 13:35:10    2452400

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Good win today, a lot of the young players showed up well, particularly Eoin Daly and Mark Cunningham when they were introduced. Eoin Keyes was excellent with 0-04 from play.
The two Doyles, Robbie Greville, Derek McNicholas, Peadar Scally etc absent today must be a combination of injuries and the flu that's going around.
Anyway, a good work out and plenty to improve on as well.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 782 - 14/01/2023 15:37:46    2452413

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Replying To Viking66:  "Antrim will be missing their Dunloy lads. And will likely be experimenting as well. I've a suspicion that with the game being at home in your centre of excellence you will win it."
You got it right.Antrim had six changes from Dublin and we had the same number from Galway.A decent work out and a win is good at anytime.Fortune is giving the young lads chances.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 14/01/2023 15:58:49    2452415

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Replying To jobber:  "You got it right.Antrim had six changes from Dublin and we had the same number from Galway.A decent work out and a win is good at anytime.Fortune is giving the young lads chances."
Fortune is a good manager!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 14/01/2023 17:07:31    2452419

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Replying To Viking66:  "Fortune is a good manager!"
It appears so and he has a dedicated bunch with him.Westmeath are trying very hard to stay at this level and get that big win which can give us more momentum.We are the poor relations here most of the time.The footballers win the Tailteann cup minus the top 16 teams and the county goes mad.The hurlers win Mcdonagh minus the top 10 and there is a modest celebration.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 14/01/2023 17:38:58    2452423

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Replying To jobber:  "It appears so and he has a dedicated bunch with him.Westmeath are trying very hard to stay at this level and get that big win which can give us more momentum.We are the poor relations here most of the time.The footballers win the Tailteann cup minus the top 16 teams and the county goes mad.The hurlers win Mcdonagh minus the top 10 and there is a modest celebration."
Hopefully the longer we stay at this level, the more that will change Jobber!

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 782 - 14/01/2023 17:44:07    2452425

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Replying To jobber:  "It appears so and he has a dedicated bunch with him.Westmeath are trying very hard to stay at this level and get that big win which can give us more momentum.We are the poor relations here most of the time.The footballers win the Tailteann cup minus the top 16 teams and the county goes mad.The hurlers win Mcdonagh minus the top 10 and there is a modest celebration."
Unfortunately that's the way its been for as long as I can remember. Ask any kid on the street in Mullingar or Athlone to name 3 County footballers and 3 County hurlers.
Theyll name the footballers no bother.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 14/01/2023 17:47:23    2452426

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Replying To jobber:  "It appears so and he has a dedicated bunch with him.Westmeath are trying very hard to stay at this level and get that big win which can give us more momentum.We are the poor relations here most of the time.The footballers win the Tailteann cup minus the top 16 teams and the county goes mad.The hurlers win Mcdonagh minus the top 10 and there is a modest celebration."
It's a shame. You would be very close to getting established as a tier 1 county in hurling given the right promotion of the game in clubs and schools and investment in underage structures.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 14/01/2023 18:38:56    2452436

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's a shame. You would be very close to getting established as a tier 1 county in hurling given the right promotion of the game in clubs and schools and investment in underage structures."
We need our county board to focus on developing hurling in Mullingar and Athlone. Athlone more so than Mullingar as Mullingar have got their act together in the St Oliver Plunketts and Cullion clubs.
Our big towns need proper investment and time put into itthem. We have very good rural hurling clubs providing quality players to the county, but we need more.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 782 - 14/01/2023 18:49:50    2452438

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Colaiste Mhuire CBS in Mullingar have been making good strides in the past couple of years with their hurling, for a school that was traditionally a football only school.
Mullingar ( Cullion and Plunketts) is making the right moves regarding hurling but Athlone is still largely an untapped resource.

35OLT (USA) - Posts: 90 - 14/01/2023 20:03:11    2452447

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Anyone who thinks Athlone is an untapped hurling resource is deluded. Athlone is actually struggling in football terms with it highly likely that no senior football champions will come from the town in the next ten years. A few hard core people like Kevin Jordan, the late Frank Young, Enda Down and a couple more have driven the limited success that's Southern Gaels but hurling needs 30-40 knowledgeable and committed people in a town and they don't grow on trees. Athlone is traditionally a strong soccer and lately rugby town and that's unlikely to change. Hurling is reasonably strong in 3-4 rural places that dominate underage and that's unlikely to change. Colaiste Mhuire compete reasonably well in hurling but it's only at B Colleges level.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 14/01/2023 20:37:21    2452452

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Replying To Dheen:  "We need our county board to focus on developing hurling in Mullingar and Athlone. Athlone more so than Mullingar as Mullingar have got their act together in the St Oliver Plunketts and Cullion clubs.
Our big towns need proper investment and time put into itthem. We have very good rural hurling clubs providing quality players to the county, but we need more."
Sounds like Wexford there. We neeed strong town clubs . There is only 1 senior club in hurling in each of Gorey, Wexford and Enniscorthy. New Ross don't even have an Intermediate club. And only 1 senior club in football in Wexford and Enniscorthy. It seems to be a countrywide problem. Limerick would be similar. Corks urban clubs seem to be sorting themselves out recently. But in general they seem to be the exception.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 14/01/2023 21:18:18    2452461

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sounds like Wexford there. We neeed strong town clubs . There is only 1 senior club in hurling in each of Gorey, Wexford and Enniscorthy. New Ross don't even have an Intermediate club. And only 1 senior club in football in Wexford and Enniscorthy. It seems to be a countrywide problem. Limerick would be similar. Corks urban clubs seem to be sorting themselves out recently. But in general they seem to be the exception."
This is still better than Mullingar and Athlone but at underage, Hurling is coming back in Mullingar and Southern Gaels are beginning to work very seriously at underage in Athlone.Thats why i believe taking a big scalp even in the league would be hugely helpful in the 2 big towns.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 15/01/2023 10:56:02    2452476

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Just seen paudie clifford lifting junior all Ireland football cup despite receiving a straight red card in the game. Yet emmet corrigan wasnt aloud lift the westmeath intermediate cup when rungtown won because he had been sent off. Is this just a westmeath thing? A disgrace of a county board if it is

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 15/01/2023 15:28:22    2452526

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Replying To Hurlingmad12:  "Just seen paudie clifford lifting junior all Ireland football cup despite receiving a straight red card in the game. Yet emmet corrigan wasnt aloud lift the westmeath intermediate cup when rungtown won because he had been sent off. Is this just a westmeath thing? A disgrace of a county board if it is"
Used to be a thing. Not sure what the rule is now.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 15/01/2023 16:00:45    2452534

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Replying To jobber:  "This is still better than Mullingar and Athlone but at underage, Hurling is coming back in Mullingar and Southern Gaels are beginning to work very seriously at underage in Athlone.Thats why i believe taking a big scalp even in the league would be hugely helpful in the 2 big towns."
That's positive news for the game of hurling. Yes a big scalp would definitely be the next step.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 15/01/2023 19:59:28    2452606

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Yeah I seen that aswell and unless they changed the rule in the last 3 months it's ridiculous . The red card for Emmet Corrigan and Conor Sleator was for a punch thrown each that never happened either . Not being able to collect the cup is a hard pill to swallow after a wrong decision and then to see that yesterday makes it even worse.

Westmeath seem to be doing ok from what I seen , Fortune seems to be looking to find 4/5 fresh faces to boost the panel which is needed to help the familiar faces.

Gaawestmeath (Westmeath) - Posts: 74 - 16/01/2023 08:53:46    2452643

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Replying To Gaawestmeath:  "Yeah I seen that aswell and unless they changed the rule in the last 3 months it's ridiculous . The red card for Emmet Corrigan and Conor Sleator was for a punch thrown each that never happened either . Not being able to collect the cup is a hard pill to swallow after a wrong decision and then to see that yesterday makes it even worse.

Westmeath seem to be doing ok from what I seen , Fortune seems to be looking to find 4/5 fresh faces to boost the panel which is needed to help the familiar faces."
Does anybody know are Robby Greville and David O Reilly injured?

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 18/01/2023 16:27:46    2452997

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Replying To jobber:  "Does anybody know are Robby Greville and David O Reilly injured?"
Is David O'Reilly on the panel?

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 782 - 18/01/2023 19:07:36    2453022

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