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Have we any challenge games lined up does anyone know

masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 04/04/2022 07:58:07    2409417

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No video evidence of Beirne incident will surely mean no appeal will be considered or any appeal will simply be thrown out and therefore he will miss the trip to Ruislip. He will be a massive loss no doubt but we will just have to plough on and other lads will have to step up to the mark.

Interestingly PP now have odds up for the game. Leitrim 2/7 with London being 10/3. The handicap has been set at 4 points. 10/3 is a huge price for London given many see it as somewhat of a 50/50 game even moreso if Beirne misses out.

juande_ramos (Leitrim) - Posts: 49 - 04/04/2022 12:41:57    2409493

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Replying To juande_ramos:  "No video evidence of Beirne incident will surely mean no appeal will be considered or any appeal will simply be thrown out and therefore he will miss the trip to Ruislip. He will be a massive loss no doubt but we will just have to plough on and other lads will have to step up to the mark.

Interestingly PP now have odds up for the game. Leitrim 2/7 with London being 10/3. The handicap has been set at 4 points. 10/3 is a huge price for London given many see it as somewhat of a 50/50 game even moreso if Beirne misses out."
According to the rules the referee must consult with the official who only spoke to him on the radio link. Who is the Sligo player allegedly involved ? Leitrim have good grounds for successful appeal. The lack of video evidence complicated matters but will depend on what is in the referee's report . Leitrim can request appearance of Sligo player but cannot compel him while the official involved won't be called.
Should be resolved this week. Fingers crossed.

leitrimabu1 (Leitrim) - Posts: 88 - 04/04/2022 13:42:32    2409520

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Confirmed Beirne given one match and out for London game. Surely there is video of the game for analysis purposes. The fact that there has been no word on this might mean the video would only worsen Beirnes appeal case.

southleitrim_mafia (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 05/04/2022 11:28:05    2409714

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Replying To southleitrim_mafia:  "Confirmed Beirne given one match and out for London game. Surely there is video of the game for analysis purposes. The fact that there has been no word on this might mean the video would only worsen Beirnes appeal case."
That makes a tricky game all the more difficult now

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2851 - 05/04/2022 15:20:44    2409795

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Replying To masseyferguson:  "Have we any challenge games lined up does anyone know"
We beat Longford in a challenge game last Saturday.

Think they've something lined up for this weekend too.

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 354 - 05/04/2022 17:45:02    2409841

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Was just wondering what some of you think of recent underage county results going back the past 3-4 years. Seem to be on the wrong side of a lot of heavy hammerings. Obvs player numbers is an issue but really we should be competing with the likes of the Longfords, Fermanaghs etc but those two neighbouring counties have beat us with ease across various age groups. You look at Sligo a county that's been at the same level as for the past 20-30 years and the underage success they're having and wonder why we cant compete a little higher. It seems strange as the minor set up seems to have become more professional but the game performances and results are going backwards. I really think its down to player selection in some places. I seen a photos of my own minor team a few years back and the same team at u15/u16. I counted up to 9 lads that were missing from the original u16 photo. Now one or two of these may have dropped or been dropped for not being up to the level. But many of these good footballers quit voluntarily and its hard to know why. Either its down to drinking bans or whatever. Ino that with that same group of players that a manager and selector were brought in the year before minor from two of the bigger clubs in the county. At the time these two clubs only had one representative on the panel each. But when these two coachs took charge both clubs then had atleast four players on the panel. This along with parents being involved in panels and other examples such as picking players on match day panels based on the fact there parent sponsors teams drives away young players (young players we dont have) from even wanting to play for their county. Coaching setups should be neutral and have no close links to any player on the panel and where possible from outside the county not a parent doing the job to get there child a place in the team. For too many years coaches have been recklessly selected without too much thought just on a who knows who basis. Bit of a rant i know but serious change and reform needs to be brought about in the underage academy set up in leitrim before our senior team ever becomes successful.

southleitrim_mafia (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 08/04/2022 14:59:08    2410270

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Replying To southleitrim_mafia:  "Was just wondering what some of you think of recent underage county results going back the past 3-4 years. Seem to be on the wrong side of a lot of heavy hammerings. Obvs player numbers is an issue but really we should be competing with the likes of the Longfords, Fermanaghs etc but those two neighbouring counties have beat us with ease across various age groups. You look at Sligo a county that's been at the same level as for the past 20-30 years and the underage success they're having and wonder why we cant compete a little higher. It seems strange as the minor set up seems to have become more professional but the game performances and results are going backwards. I really think its down to player selection in some places. I seen a photos of my own minor team a few years back and the same team at u15/u16. I counted up to 9 lads that were missing from the original u16 photo. Now one or two of these may have dropped or been dropped for not being up to the level. But many of these good footballers quit voluntarily and its hard to know why. Either its down to drinking bans or whatever. Ino that with that same group of players that a manager and selector were brought in the year before minor from two of the bigger clubs in the county. At the time these two clubs only had one representative on the panel each. But when these two coachs took charge both clubs then had atleast four players on the panel. This along with parents being involved in panels and other examples such as picking players on match day panels based on the fact there parent sponsors teams drives away young players (young players we dont have) from even wanting to play for their county. Coaching setups should be neutral and have no close links to any player on the panel and where possible from outside the county not a parent doing the job to get there child a place in the team. For too many years coaches have been recklessly selected without too much thought just on a who knows who basis. Bit of a rant i know but serious change and reform needs to be brought about in the underage academy set up in leitrim before our senior team ever becomes successful."
Agreed - underage results have been shocking, nothing short of scandalous.

I think our county u-15s play Fermanagh and our u-16s play Clare in the centre of excellence today (Saturday) .

Then Wednesday our u-20s play mayo. It will be interesting to see how all these games go. Let's see.

But one thing is certain - unless we start competing and winning at these underage levels then forget about the senior team competing or winning

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 527 - 09/04/2022 10:09:47    2410334

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I always feel sorry for Leitrim; 16,000 population competing against many teams with ten or twenty times that, and even more in a few cases.

If the GAA was properly run, there's be 3 grades: Senior, intermediate and junior, like happens in almost every county at club level.

Obviously, Leitrim would be in the junior grade.

Failing that, bundle a few teams together. For example, Roscommon, Leitrim and Sligo…Roslego…and have them compete at senior level. Kerry does this very effectively at club level with their divisional systems.

You could have 12 top class senior teams amalgamated from the weaker counties. Kerry and Dublin would probably be the only ones strong enough to stand alone. You might even have to give Cork to Kerry (as they'd undoubtedly complain): call them, Corry (pronounced with an 'S' sound as in cinnamon or cider).

Scrap the league and each team plays 11 games, and the top 4 get into the semifinals!

A few Leitrim lads might end up with Sam Maguire medals in this way. Otherwise, they won't even end up with Sam Maguire pedals.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1204 - 09/04/2022 11:43:19    2410346

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Replying To southleitrim_mafia:  "Was just wondering what some of you think of recent underage county results going back the past 3-4 years. Seem to be on the wrong side of a lot of heavy hammerings. Obvs player numbers is an issue but really we should be competing with the likes of the Longfords, Fermanaghs etc but those two neighbouring counties have beat us with ease across various age groups. You look at Sligo a county that's been at the same level as for the past 20-30 years and the underage success they're having and wonder why we cant compete a little higher. It seems strange as the minor set up seems to have become more professional but the game performances and results are going backwards. I really think its down to player selection in some places. I seen a photos of my own minor team a few years back and the same team at u15/u16. I counted up to 9 lads that were missing from the original u16 photo. Now one or two of these may have dropped or been dropped for not being up to the level. But many of these good footballers quit voluntarily and its hard to know why. Either its down to drinking bans or whatever. Ino that with that same group of players that a manager and selector were brought in the year before minor from two of the bigger clubs in the county. At the time these two clubs only had one representative on the panel each. But when these two coachs took charge both clubs then had atleast four players on the panel. This along with parents being involved in panels and other examples such as picking players on match day panels based on the fact there parent sponsors teams drives away young players (young players we dont have) from even wanting to play for their county. Coaching setups should be neutral and have no close links to any player on the panel and where possible from outside the county not a parent doing the job to get there child a place in the team. For too many years coaches have been recklessly selected without too much thought just on a who knows who basis. Bit of a rant i know but serious change and reform needs to be brought about in the underage academy set up in leitrim before our senior team ever becomes successful."
This is the biggest problem facing Leitrim football right now. The results have been depressing the last 20 years.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 175 - 09/04/2022 19:15:01    2410402

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Replying To southleitrim_mafia:  "Was just wondering what some of you think of recent underage county results going back the past 3-4 years. Seem to be on the wrong side of a lot of heavy hammerings. Obvs player numbers is an issue but really we should be competing with the likes of the Longfords, Fermanaghs etc but those two neighbouring counties have beat us with ease across various age groups. You look at Sligo a county that's been at the same level as for the past 20-30 years and the underage success they're having and wonder why we cant compete a little higher. It seems strange as the minor set up seems to have become more professional but the game performances and results are going backwards. I really think its down to player selection in some places. I seen a photos of my own minor team a few years back and the same team at u15/u16. I counted up to 9 lads that were missing from the original u16 photo. Now one or two of these may have dropped or been dropped for not being up to the level. But many of these good footballers quit voluntarily and its hard to know why. Either its down to drinking bans or whatever. Ino that with that same group of players that a manager and selector were brought in the year before minor from two of the bigger clubs in the county. At the time these two clubs only had one representative on the panel each. But when these two coachs took charge both clubs then had atleast four players on the panel. This along with parents being involved in panels and other examples such as picking players on match day panels based on the fact there parent sponsors teams drives away young players (young players we dont have) from even wanting to play for their county. Coaching setups should be neutral and have no close links to any player on the panel and where possible from outside the county not a parent doing the job to get there child a place in the team. For too many years coaches have been recklessly selected without too much thought just on a who knows who basis. Bit of a rant i know but serious change and reform needs to be brought about in the underage academy set up in leitrim before our senior team ever becomes successful."
The future does not look bright either... https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/top-leitrim-official-warns-of-serious-threat-to-many-rural-clubs-41151119.html ...

- 70 per cent of boys attending primary school in the county are in the catchment area of nine of their 23 clubs,

- 19pc of the figure are within the orbit of just one club.

The reality is that some rural clubs will come under serious pressure in the coming decade and no doubt there will be talent missed in the bigger clubs unless clubs can enter more than one team at underage. I am already aware of parents who are travelling good distances to bring their kids over to Carrick to play rugby even though they have clubs on their doorsteps. Coupled with restrictive planning regulations and the lack of any real industrial base, some clubs will simply fold if housing & jobs cannot be secured locally. The future does not look bright and it needs to be addressed ASAP with input across the various stakeholders.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 359 - 10/04/2022 19:56:12    2410464

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I always feel sorry for Leitrim; 16,000 population competing against many teams with ten or twenty times that, and even more in a few cases.

If the GAA was properly run, there's be 3 grades: Senior, intermediate and junior, like happens in almost every county at club level.

Obviously, Leitrim would be in the junior grade.

Failing that, bundle a few teams together. For example, Roscommon, Leitrim and Sligo…Roslego…and have them compete at senior level. Kerry does this very effectively at club level with their divisional systems.

You could have 12 top class senior teams amalgamated from the weaker counties. Kerry and Dublin would probably be the only ones strong enough to stand alone. You might even have to give Cork to Kerry (as they'd undoubtedly complain): call them, Corry (pronounced with an 'S' sound as in cinnamon or cider).

Scrap the league and each team plays 11 games, and the top 4 get into the semifinals!

A few Leitrim lads might end up with Sam Maguire medals in this way. Otherwise, they won't even end up with Sam Maguire pedals."
We don't need pity, it has always been that way. And if we were pushed into a junior grade you could watch the dropout rate rise considerably. Amalgamating with Roscommon or Sligo? Do you know much about local rivalries etc? The vast majority of players currently playing for maybe 27 or 28 counties will never win all Ireland medals. Fermanagh has less players to pick from than us, turn your pity towards them.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 11/04/2022 08:59:21    2410485

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Replying To Dodgy_Pass:  "We beat Longford in a challenge game last Saturday.

Think they've something lined up for this weekend too."
Any word on the latest match ?

masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 45 - 11/04/2022 13:42:24    2410533

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Anyone know if there will be an appeal to the Keith Beirne suspension handed down?

JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 96 - 11/04/2022 21:22:28    2410594

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Replying To JimmyNail:  "Anyone know if there will be an appeal to the Keith Beirne suspension handed down?"
According the Observer, an appeal was made & failed. Sunday will be a tough one without Beirne.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 359 - 13/04/2022 12:25:01    2410824

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Very impressed by the U-20's tonight. Some very promising footballers in that group.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 175 - 13/04/2022 21:12:35    2410911

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Replying To 3rdmidfielder:  "Very impressed by the U-20's tonight. Some very promising footballers in that group."
They put up a great show in the last ten mins to be fair, or perhaps Mayo had eased off a bit. Another min or two and we might have got a result.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 14/04/2022 09:51:04    2410930

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Replying To 3rdmidfielder:  "Very impressed by the U-20's tonight. Some very promising footballers in that group."
A very positive display for 10 mins when they could have snatched the game. Let's be honest tho mayo completely controlled the game for 50 mins and could/should have been 20+ points ahead. You have to admire the way our lads stuck at it and had huge pride in playing right till the end. I'm not convinced many of that team will make the step up up to senior level all the same. Hopefully I'm wrong

Champotime18 (Leitrim) - Posts: 328 - 14/04/2022 10:35:54    2410946

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Replying To Champotime18:  "A very positive display for 10 mins when they could have snatched the game. Let's be honest tho mayo completely controlled the game for 50 mins and could/should have been 20+ points ahead. You have to admire the way our lads stuck at it and had huge pride in playing right till the end. I'm not convinced many of that team will make the step up up to senior level all the same. Hopefully I'm wrong"
I agree with all you are saying, but I'm telling you a lot of the problems for Leitrim teams down the years is mental weakness, beaten before the ball in thrown in. You could nearly pinpoint to the minute they started going at mayo. It was great to see. Few great footballers in that team, and athletic too which is badly needed. I will take great hope from the last ten minutes.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 175 - 14/04/2022 15:37:43    2411018

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Replying To 3rdmidfielder:  "I agree with all you are saying, but I'm telling you a lot of the problems for Leitrim teams down the years is mental weakness, beaten before the ball in thrown in. You could nearly pinpoint to the minute they started going at mayo. It was great to see. Few great footballers in that team, and athletic too which is badly needed. I will take great hope from the last ten minutes."
They were nearly trying to be too fancy in first half with flicks etc on instead of making sure of the pass, basic handling errors also in forward line, and we seemed to hit a wall when we got to their 45, in fairness Mayo parked the bus in the first half defensively, and that went by the wayside when they built up such a lead, which is where the comeback began. The game between Sligo and Roscommon was poor fare, Sligo much the better side though, and hopefully they can do the business against Mayo, best of luck to them.

kentuckytucky (USA) - Posts: 207 - 14/04/2022 16:23:04    2411027

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