Replying To theboys: "The minor was very disappointing!!!i was very disappointed with the tactics really or the speed at which they should have been changed!!!it was very evident that Derek McGrath set up with 2 sweepers or whatever u want to call it to make them very hard to beat,and Wexford for the whole first half pucked long ball down into the mix continuously and never looked like getting possession as they were completely outnumbered!!!Wexford had 3 and sometimes 4 backs free for short puck outs everytime and should have availed of them!!!laois won nearly all puckout and ran in numbers and Wexford forwards did not work which made things that little bit harder!!!lucky enough to go in 4 down at half time!!!to be fair in the second half Wexford changed tactics and did go short and ran at laois and they had no answer!!!the continuous screaming out of Noel carton and Richie Kehoe to run the ball seemed to be working,then a sickening blow as Simon Roche got a really harsh red 5 or 6 mins into second half which I thought was goin to be the end of the comeback,but to be fair those young lads kept working there socks off running at laois and defended really well!!Ben asple absolutely dominating at centre back and Charlie Rourke full back coming out with ball after ball!!!in the end we done enough to win with cillian Byrne coming of and on and bagging 3 goals a great finisher,paudi Doyle done Trojan work and took the game to them throughout and is a future star a great leader!!!I might add that we went a point up in added time and missed 3 easy chances to go 4 clear and then the dreaded last puck of the game goes through everyone straight to the net Wexford so unlucky!!!I seen Richie Kehoe fall to his knees like Cody when Mick Jacob done Kilkenny with a last min goal!!!overall I think Wexford were the better team and just got caugh at the end,if tac was changed earlier it think they would have won easy!!!I think we have a nice few hurlers coming off that team and they showed great character,the future is bright I think!!!!" All that is great news theboys! Good positive stuff from a lad who actually watched the game instead of the earlier negative s###e from lads who didn't.
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I was at the Dublin minor game … only game I was at but I felt that fitness was a huge part to play In leaving Dublin in the game.
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Replying To beano: "I think Dublin will beat Kilkenny, especially with Lawlor out now as he has plugged a prior problem area there and is among the best in his position. Ronan Hayes could be licking his lips. Dublin will physically out-match KK and they probably targeted taking them on in Parnell Park when the draw was made. Of course, if that comes to pass, and we get the expectant win vs Westmeath, it'll make our trip to Nowlan Park a smidge easier, as a draw would suffice for us to qualify.
I didn't mean my prior comment to be a missive against Jacob, more so a criticism at the absence of S and C at school's level and a lack of discipline on the sideline, which always looks worse at underage level. It smacks of unprofessionalism in a game that is becoming more and more modern. When you compare it to Laois, coming from Tier 2, but being competitive because they attracted a top quality coach. And the likes of Laois are always going to go for an established outsider where possible. Why wouldn't they? I know first-hand the time and energy it takes to commit to such a position, and I would be chuffed if more of the recent ex-county lads got on board." I dont want dublin to beat Kilkenny coz that would mean Dublin will be on 8 points and we cant catch them and they will be through to the Leinster final
Im hoping they lose their last two games and we win our last two then we will be in the Leinster Final vs Galway
Obviously I would much prefer Dublin AND Wexford to win their last two matches - then Wexford and the Dubs could contest the Leinster final which would be even better but not very likely
If Dublin beat Kilkenny then Dublin will go into the Galway game on 8 points with Galway on 7 - so a Galway win or a draw would mean a Galway v Dublin final.
If Dublin lose to Kilkenny they would go into the Galway game on 6 points. Galway on 7, Kilkenny on 6 and wexford on 5.
A Galway win or a draw coupled with a Wexford win would see us in final with Galway since the Dublin score difference is not great
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 06/05/2022 14:09:46
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Replying To Yellow: "I dont want dublin to beat Kilkenny coz that would mean Dublin will be on 8 points and we cant catch them and they will be through to the Leinster final
Im hoping they lose their last two games and we win our last two then we will be in the Leinster Final vs Galway
Obviously I would much prefer Dublin AND Wexford to win their last two matches - then Wexford and the Dubs could contest the Leinster final which would be even better but not very likely
If Dublin beat Kilkenny then Dublin will go into the Galway game on 8 points with Galway on 7 - so a Galway win or a draw would mean a Galway v Dublin final.
If Dublin lose to Kilkenny they would go into the Galway game on 6 points. Galway on 7, Kilkenny on 6 and wexford on 5.
A Galway win or a draw coupled with a Wexford win would see us in final with Galway since the Dublin score difference is not great" I'd agree it's hard to see how we can reach a Leinster final if Dublin beat Kilkenny . What will be the situation if Dublin and Kilkenny is a draw?
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Busy few weeks ahead for Wexford hurling. Was at the U20s and while we rode our luck at times, it was overall a pleasing performance. The workrate of the forward line was unbelievable in regards to hooking, chasing and blocking. It's what lead to the goal which is something we don't see enough from the seniors IMO. I was mighty impressed by Kilkenny and if they turn up on Monday, can't really see us beating them. However, it's good that were back in a provincial final and we have to be pushing to be in these positions every few years and get to Leinster and All Ireland finals and start getting the county used to winning silverware. It definitely helps lads going into a senior setup if they've been apart of a good underage set-up.
Fair play to David Redmond for highlighting the S&C situation in Wexford. Alot of people, including myself, did not know that the designated S&C coach for the minors had not yet been replaced. Total joke if that's the case. In the modern game being physically strong is as important as any of the basic skills of the game. The minor defeat was an embarrassment to the county, no matter what positive spin you put on it. Fair play to the chaps who lined out and Jim Byrne's two young fellas look great talents in fairness, but surely we should put someone in charge with a bit more inter county experience than we did with the minors. Would JJ Doyle take that job next year?
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Busy few weeks ahead for Wexford hurling. Was at the U20s and while we rode our luck at times, it was overall a pleasing performance. The workrate of the forward line was unbelievable in regards to hooking, chasing and blocking. It's what lead to the goal which is something we don't see enough from the seniors IMO. I was mighty impressed by Kilkenny and if they turn up on Monday, can't really see us beating them. However, it's good that were back in a provincial final and we have to be pushing to be in these positions every few years and get to Leinster and All Ireland finals and start getting the county used to winning silverware. It definitely helps lads going into a senior setup if they've been apart of a good underage set-up.
Fair play to David Redmond for highlighting the S&C situation in Wexford. Alot of people, including myself, did not know that the designated S&C coach for the minors had not yet been replaced. Total joke if that's the case. In the modern game being physically strong is as important as any of the basic skills of the game. The minor defeat was an embarrassment to the county, no matter what positive spin you put on it. Fair play to the chaps who lined out and Jim Byrne's two young fellas look great talents in fairness, but surely we should put someone in charge with a bit more inter county experience than we did with the minors. Would JJ Doyle take that job next year?" Fair play to David for highlighting this . It's not something most Wexford hurling people would have been aware of . It has to be addressed in the next few months. We haven't a hope of competing physically with the top counties if that is not rectify. Who knows if the minors this year were given the proper S&C program it could have made the difference and seen them progress . I would say Jj would be interested in the role. He is involved in coaching in FCJ already as far as I know
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 07/05/2022 11:32:49
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Replying To Afinestick: "I'd agree it's hard to see how we can reach a Leinster final if Dublin beat Kilkenny . What will be the situation if Dublin and Kilkenny is a draw?" If Dublin beat Kilkenny we will need them to beat Galway also. As well as we need to beat Westmeath and Kilkenny by a combined good total to have better points difference than Galway. Then it will be the Dubs and us in the final.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 07/05/2022 11:38:19
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Replying To Afinestick: "I'd agree it's hard to see how we can reach a Leinster final if Dublin beat Kilkenny . What will be the situation if Dublin and Kilkenny is a draw?" If Dublin beat Kilkenny we will need them to beat Galway also. As well as we need to beat Westmeath and Kilkenny by a combined good total to have better points difference than Galway. Then it will be the Dubs and us in the final.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 07/05/2022 11:38:45
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Busy few weeks ahead for Wexford hurling. Was at the U20s and while we rode our luck at times, it was overall a pleasing performance. The workrate of the forward line was unbelievable in regards to hooking, chasing and blocking. It's what lead to the goal which is something we don't see enough from the seniors IMO. I was mighty impressed by Kilkenny and if they turn up on Monday, can't really see us beating them. However, it's good that were back in a provincial final and we have to be pushing to be in these positions every few years and get to Leinster and All Ireland finals and start getting the county used to winning silverware. It definitely helps lads going into a senior setup if they've been apart of a good underage set-up.
Fair play to David Redmond for highlighting the S&C situation in Wexford. Alot of people, including myself, did not know that the designated S&C coach for the minors had not yet been replaced. Total joke if that's the case. In the modern game being physically strong is as important as any of the basic skills of the game. The minor defeat was an embarrassment to the county, no matter what positive spin you put on it. Fair play to the chaps who lined out and Jim Byrne's two young fellas look great talents in fairness, but surely we should put someone in charge with a bit more inter county experience than we did with the minors. Would JJ Doyle take that job next year?" Embarrassment is a bit strong. And a bit arrogant as there are massive strides being made at underage in Laois and a few other "weaker" counties. Hopefully we will take some learnings from the game as we did the u20 loss to Kildare. You are spot on about our minor and underage in general team preparation. Not just S and C and management but also the fact that the Munster counties and Galway and Kilkenny and possibly Dublin have their development squads, minor and u20 squads together more times a week and for more months prior to the championships than we do. Billy Drennan said in his interview after the Galway game that the Kilkenny u20 panel were training 3 nights a week since October. Ours would have got together a lot less than that. And at the end of the day hurling is a team sport. The more times a team trains and plays together the better the teamwork will be.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 07/05/2022 11:46:09
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Replying To Finchfurlong996: "Busy few weeks ahead for Wexford hurling. Was at the U20s and while we rode our luck at times, it was overall a pleasing performance. The workrate of the forward line was unbelievable in regards to hooking, chasing and blocking. It's what lead to the goal which is something we don't see enough from the seniors IMO. I was mighty impressed by Kilkenny and if they turn up on Monday, can't really see us beating them. However, it's good that were back in a provincial final and we have to be pushing to be in these positions every few years and get to Leinster and All Ireland finals and start getting the county used to winning silverware. It definitely helps lads going into a senior setup if they've been apart of a good underage set-up.
Fair play to David Redmond for highlighting the S&C situation in Wexford. Alot of people, including myself, did not know that the designated S&C coach for the minors had not yet been replaced. Total joke if that's the case. In the modern game being physically strong is as important as any of the basic skills of the game. The minor defeat was an embarrassment to the county, no matter what positive spin you put on it. Fair play to the chaps who lined out and Jim Byrne's two young fellas look great talents in fairness, but surely we should put someone in charge with a bit more inter county experience than we did with the minors. Would JJ Doyle take that job next year?" JJ is an employee of wexford co board so for me coaching the minor or u20 team wouldn't benefit either side. Imagine if contentious issues arise? I'd like to see someone from outside come in along the lines of the Laois set up and have go. John Meyler was an integral part of setting up the current cork underage structure but maybe there's too much history for him to get involved. From what I'm hearing we're light years behind other counties when it comes to underage and I mean light years
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Offaly v Laois Leinster minor final
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Laois minors have just beaten KK and are now in the Leinster final so certainly doesn't make our defeat to them last week look as much of a disaster as was probably initially felt.
Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 276 - 07/05/2022 13:45:15
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Leinster minor hurling final 2022 will be Laois v Offaly. Great for the game! Or maybe some lads still find it embarrassing?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16839 - 07/05/2022 14:16:40
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Replying To hunting: "How can we beat dublin well, run kilkenny very close and then turn around and lose to laois??I guarantee dublin or kilkenny will beat laois well" This has aged well!
Along with of course the whole "how can we be any good when there's no players from (insert random 'bigger' hurling club here) on the team and yet no names of any of these players forthcoming, argument.
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Replying To tearintom: "This has aged well!
Along with of course the whole "how can we be any good when there's no players from (insert random 'bigger' hurling club here) on the team and yet no names of any of these players forthcoming, argument." Like the clubs who played in the relegation final?
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Replying To Viking66: "Leinster minor hurling final 2022 will be Laois v Offaly. Great for the game! Or maybe some lads still find it embarrassing?" Delighted exactly what leinster hurling needs more counties coming to the table well done to both
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Replying To Viking66: "Leinster minor hurling final 2022 will be Laois v Offaly. Great for the game! Or maybe some lads still find it embarrassing?" Great to see. Up Laois and Offaly. Hopefully, they'll be dishing out defeats to KK, Wex, Galway and Dublin at senior level in the coming years.
That could only be good for the game.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2359 - 07/05/2022 15:23:16
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Replying To tearintom: "This has aged well!
Along with of course the whole "how can we be any good when there's no players from (insert random 'bigger' hurling club here) on the team and yet no names of any of these players forthcoming, argument." 100 percent, I have to hold my hand up. Well done Laois
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 07/05/2022 15:33:46
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Replying To tearintom: "This has aged well!
Along with of course the whole "how can we be any good when there's no players from (insert random 'bigger' hurling club here) on the team and yet no names of any of these players forthcoming, argument." I mentioned last Saturday that brian Carroll said on RTÉ that Laois had a good minor team. Also michael duignan has been talking about this Offaly group and the high hopes he has for them since they were beaten by Tipp in the Tony Forristal final in 2019. Wexford gaa produced a five year development plan I think last year and their ambitions for the county. I just hope it wasn't a PR exercise and that it's under constant review measured against its targets. If not it will have been a waste of time and if David redmonds comments are anything to go by it's already running into quick sand.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 07/05/2022 15:36:23
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Who makes a minor final isn't important in the overall scheme of things. What is important is that there are 3-4-5 off the team who finish up being good enough to make a difference at senior level. It is good that Laois/Offaly made the final, but both need to make it the start of something more than a big result. Same with Kildare. No point winning in u20 and not building on it. I was our helping a friend take frees today and asked if his club (a "real traditional club....." so to speak) had anybody who he would put on "tonydoranfan's list". His reply was "there are 2 who have are very good and could be on it but have a bad attitude". 1 week on, we still haven't heard 1 players name, despite him "knowing every minor hurler in the county".
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