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Replying To AfricanGael: "Well obviously the numbers will be low when hardly any outdoor sports were taking place and coupled with that do you think respondents would be truthful if they were breaking the law. No doubt it's safer outdoors but i'd take those figures with a pinch of salt." Going by your reasoning I'd take Covid related death figures with a pinch of salt. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 06/04/2021 10:59:12 2336102 Link
Replying To HardCase: "But they werent doing the same thing. Gaa was still classed as elite at the time. Furthermore we hadnt seen what covid could do if it got a head of steam up yet when those incidents happened. There was little incidence of the new variant and what that brought to that table. By April we had gotten a rude awakening, but dublin still chose to suit themselves even with the benefit of hindsight. Furthermore, for the guy to get the tip off and be waiting there with the camera - it is fairly clear that it wasnt a one off also." No I know you are talking BS. When Cork and Down broke the rules cases on the Republic had skyrocketed. Over 6k people a day were being diagnosed. Our deaths were at their highest. It was well known too that the UK variant was in the country at Christmas so Ireland was in massive trouble. lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 06/04/2021 11:15:33 2336104 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Going by your reasoning I'd take Covid related death figures with a pinch of salt." That's because you don't understand, but i'll give you the opportunity to explain your comment. Have a go then, i'm looking forward to this ....... AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 11:31:19 2336106 Link
Just listening to the news on the radio, there is no need for this constant barrage of figures on hospital stats which are a fraction of what they were 3 months ago. Seems like fear mongering. The big scare now is these new variants which are so much worse than the first edition of covid-19 and are so much easier to transmit, Last Summer when the figures were tiny we still had these dramatic daily briefings with the team of X men walking out for their wee news conference every evening, this time last year there was nothing worse than this covid-19, yet they couldn't decide if wearing a mask to protect against an airborne virus was a good idea or not? The figures on deaths relating to covid are inflated, why do you think that is? For some reason a lot of it looks like a load of BS to me anyway. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I have followed all the rules, just a lot of this just doesn't make sense. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 06/04/2021 12:14:49 2336108 Link
Replying To AfricanGael: "That's because you don't understand, but i'll give you the opportunity to explain your comment. Have a go then, i'm looking forward to this ......." Your very selective in what figures you believe and the figures you don't. Things on here too Irish for you going by your past comments. You stick with your UK. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 06/04/2021 12:15:18 2336109 Link
This is a GAA forum. If you boys want to argue about COVID go somewhere else. I've seen and read enough of that to last me a lifetime. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 06/04/2021 12:26:37 2336110 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "This is a GAA forum. If you boys want to argue about COVID go somewhere else. I've seen and read enough of that to last me a lifetime." Well this particular thread does relate to a GAA team breaking Covid-19 lockdown rules. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 12:50:17 2336112 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "This is a GAA forum. If you boys want to argue about COVID go somewhere else. I've seen and read enough of that to last me a lifetime." Aye sure start a thread about an up coming match then.... SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/04/2021 13:05:10 2336115 Link
Replying To AfricanGael: "Well this particular thread does relate to a GAA team breaking Covid-19 lockdown rules." Fair point AfricanGael so why not stick to the point of the thread as opposed to endlessly recycling pro and anti Covid positions. This isn't the place for that. Have you sorted out my education in relation to the "Great Wars" yet? Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 06/04/2021 13:59:48 2336117 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Aye sure start a thread about an up coming match then...." Wouldn't I love to Saffron. Wouldn't we all? Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 06/04/2021 14:00:43 2336118 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Wouldn't I love to Saffron. Wouldn't we all?" Too right! Hopefully soon enough SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/04/2021 14:15:11 2336119 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Fair point AfricanGael so why not stick to the point of the thread as opposed to endlessly recycling pro and anti Covid positions. This isn't the place for that. Have you sorted out my education in relation to the "Great Wars" yet?" I did, but unfortunately for some reason it didn't pass moderation. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 14:32:24 2336121 Link
Replying To arock: "The GAA is currently investigating this, even have a committee working as we speak. Why was Dessie Farrell suspended? He's the man responsible and thats not the end of it. Precedent was set with Cork and Down and the very same punishments will have to apply. Dublin County board is free to punish whom it wants for wrong doing, GAA has to apply punishments fairly and evenly what was good for other two counties will be fine for Dublin." Will Dublin get a bigger punishment than Down or Cork due to the fact that they knew what had happened to those two teams in December or January and decided to go ahead and break the rules anyway. Johnnyprophet (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 06/04/2021 15:10:04 2336125 Link
Replying To Johnnyprophet: "Will Dublin get a bigger punishment than Down or Cork due to the fact that they knew what had happened to those two teams in December or January and decided to go ahead and break the rules anyway." I was thinking the same, do the GAA think now that they need a tougher punishment as the current punishment doesn't seem to deter teams from training.. I will add, I don't have any problem with the Dublin lads training last week.. tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 06/04/2021 15:35:56 2336127 Link
Replying To tommy132: "I was thinking the same, do the GAA think now that they need a tougher punishment as the current punishment doesn't seem to deter teams from training.. I will add, I don't have any problem with the Dublin lads training last week.." No problem with cheating, no ? AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 15:49:38 2336129 Link
The Dubs should not have cheated. And deserve the ban. That said outdoor transmission accounts for less than 1% of cases. So keep things in perspective. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 06/04/2021 16:05:25 2336132 Link
Replying To AfricanGael: "No problem with cheating, no ?" fair enough if you see it as cheating, I don't think it was cheating tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 06/04/2021 16:19:39 2336133 Link
Banning managers isnt the solution to the problem, same as the winter training ban, the manager will still have players training, while its not the players fault really as they have to follow orders, I think the manager and players involved need to be banned or a punishment that effects everyone involved. tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 06/04/2021 16:22:28 2336134 Link
Replying To galwayford: "The Dubs should not have cheated. And deserve the ban. That said outdoor transmission accounts for less than 1% of cases. So keep things in perspective." Can you imagine if this cheating hadn't been exposed and we heard that all those Dublin lads who were illegally training had caught Covid, do you really think they would have put their hands up and said yes we were training and may have caught it that way ? Of course they wouldn't. We all know you are much more unlikely to catch Covid in an outdoor setting, nobody disputes that, but to use a figure of 1% is highly misleading for a number of reasons, firstly because you are talking about 1% of all cases (indoor and outdoor), secondly, if groups were outdoors taking part in an activity they shouldn't have been then they wouldn't admit it and finally it categorises all outdoor sports in the same bracket when we know that certain sports carry more risk than others. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 16:47:26 2336136 Link
Replying To tommy132: "fair enough if you see it as cheating, I don't think it was cheating" It's cheating by fact, not by my opinion. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 06/04/2021 16:49:04 2336137 Link